Question regarding transsexualism in the Quran
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actually i m bit confuse now, savvage carrot are you female ?
so that i will make sure myself who i m talking with.and what tonight with bender, lolx something looking fishy here
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actually i m bit confuse now, savvage carrot are you female ?
so that i will make sure myself who i m talking with.
You really don't need to make sure. Really. I'm alright with that. Honest. Words speak louder than gender as it is, isn't that the moral of the story?and what tonight with bender, lolx something looking fishy here
Definitely fishy. And night. Sleep. Sleeping with the fishies! perchance to dream? -
You really don't need to make sure. Really. I'm alright with that. Honest. Words speak louder than gender as it is, isn't that the moral of the story?Definitely fishy. And night. Sleep. Sleeping with the fishies! perchance to dream?
so i understand you are a fishy fish , lol , fish with fishy morals becoz honesty is the best policy , and why you avoiding of giving me an answer of mysterious gender , is it not a friendly way to kknow eachother on forum who is male and who is female, and who is in between , lol
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Simple, because you should pay attention to words not gender as far as I'm concerned. And no, it is not a friendly way, it's a creepy a/s/l way. Have a nice day
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Simple, because you should pay attention to words not gender as far as I'm concerned. And no, it is not a friendly way, it's a creepy a/s/l way. Have a nice day )
oh my goshhh, its the way of thinking , how you think within yourself, about other people , what i have to do with you asl brickwall , its mean you are really thinking like police investigators who just say things in doubt ,
and have a good day to you as well, my day is already goood of having nice convo with some mysterious gender . lol
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@ Savage carrot, i meant myself (though i can't call myself a fully-fledged pegasister as i've only completed 2 seasons so far) ;D
his makeup was like womens but his punches in self defence was fully male version punches rotfl rotfl
I know most cisgender heterosexual females are capable of punching in a fully male way I don't see what's relevant about that.
and police was in confusion what is this case rotfl people who try to make fun of nature and system they face consequences,
Strange you mention this, but nobody in your post made fun of nature. If make-up were unnatural, we'd assume that hunter-gatherers wouldn't use make-up, as they are not so-called 'civilised', but they still do.
It is true that some people are in kind of jobs, there's not many alternatives in some countries to do better jobs. (and the majority does try)
I'm not sure what country you are referring to, as i was reffering to souteast asia in general. The names they are referred to varies in each and every country.By your description, the person you mentioned is a transvestite/cross dresser. Whilst this is inside the transgender umbrella, its different in nature than those who feel their body doesnt match up. That is probably indeed someone whose desire for femininity doesnt go beyong clothing and make-up, or only 'expressing' without having to change anything. That still doesnt justify any kind of rape, violence and certainly not gang rape, though. And an sich, there isn't anything wrong with dressing up as a female for the purpose of entertaining (even if probably the quran does say it is wrong). If it goes beyond entertaining (sexual actions), then it is wrong. Still depending on the financial and personal situation of the person involved of course. Also the client is just as wrong as the one providing the service.
I have never once seen an Indian movie, i'm sorry. (well that's not true, i accidentally overlooked an indian action movie someone else was watching in the same airplane i was in, but that's not relevant) The countries i'm familiar with are the indochinese subcontinent and islands, rather than the indian subcontinent. Though all of them have a medieval hindu heritage and a large amount of people not fitting heteronormativity (probably even larger than the indian subcontinent). The indian subcontinent is however significantly poorer than the indochinese, which means more of them will do jobs beyond any self respect. I can only say for a fact that the conservative-christian Philippines (who also have hindu heritage, though they deny it themselves), the 'ladyboys' are a common daily occurence, and most of them are everyday people and not just camgirls or hookers. (for example the cleaning lady of the grandmother of my partner) Though 'ladyboy' is a term that includes transsexuals, cross-dressers and gays and is also eroticised by porn, so it's hard to know from just viewing them which category they belong. Theres also a large amount of them who are so passable to my western eyes that it's impossible to notice they are, suggesting there were even more than the many i saw. (and i was not inside the capital of the country, which would distort the image of regular people)
And a comment on the following posts what the... ?
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@ Savage carrot, i meant myself (though i can't call myself a fully-fledged pegasister as i've only completed 2 seasons so far) ;D
And a comment on the following posts what the... ?
I preferred Care Bears to the Ponies, that's how much of a rebel I was...Not sure when you joined the forum, but don't mind us...crazy happens occasionally and um, welcome to the forum
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i meant myself (though i can't call myself a fully-fledged pegasister as i've only completed 2 seasons so far) ;D
its mean you are still under construction.
same like underconstruction building, its under construction women.
And a comment on the following posts what the... ?
aww dnt worry about these posts , it was part of fun , we always talk serious quranic issue so today i was about to change the rythum
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its mean you are still under construction.
same like underconstruction building, its under construction women.
aww dnt worry about these posts , it was part of fun , we always talk serious quranic issue so today i was about to change the rythum
I was actually referring to the fact that i haven't watched the full series so i can't call myself an obsessive fan yet ;D
And yeah, i noticed it was getting weird. (but my conversation with savage carrot wasn't any less weird)
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bender u are very naughty, i think he is not male, becoz its first time i m encountring mr or miss savage carrot , and i just check his/her profile nothing gender mention there. see thats what happen when u try to uncover the skin of hair.lolx
Just be careful, it knows The Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique yes
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lolxx i hope u will have a nice night, group gang love lolx
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I was actually referring to the fact that i haven't watched the full series so i can't call myself an obsessive fan yet ;D
hmm allright, i was thinking something else.
And yeah, i noticed it was getting weird. (but my conversation with savage carrot wasn't any less weird)
lol, ;D humor is a part of happy life
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Okay, sorry, that does end the discussion. I wrote a whole fell-funded answer (as i always did in this topic), but after saying insulting things like this, there is no point in continuing to talk with you.
http//i.picpar.com/luQb.jpg
http//www.advocate.com/politics/commentary/2011/09/27/oped-live-world-where-everyone-has-hiv
im not pulling this out of nowhere, i didn't write this as an insult, i simply reported on what i sawYou're alienated from reality, and as long as you don't face reality, you'll only become more frustrated. You've been constantly claiming things about the west are just not true and not even realistic, and you keep on insisting on reliability of data which is by current technology impossible to be reliable or complete. Math revolves around one thing reliable data.
CDC, WHO, and others provide reliable data.
I'm not the one running away from reliable data.
A fact that is very visible to the naked eye is that God created a diverse and beautiful world.
What LGBT folks do is not part of it. It goes directly against the quran.
Just saying. Look at folsom street fair. That's enough for me.
You're using fallacious argumentation to dismiss what i have to write. You're attacking my ability to understand mathematics when you're the one who's been dismissing reliable statistics and empirical data all this time.
You're right for one thing, we have to agree to disagree.
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somewhere i was studying the first virus of HIV was happened due to homosexulty and they both were gays, something like that,
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CDC, WHO, and others provide reliable data.
I'm not the one running away from reliable data.
What LGBT folks do is not part of it. It goes directly against the quran.You didn't quote CDC or WHO even once. You only linked to news articles who quote these reports, but haven't shown me the actual reports even once. Yet you ignore this argument, despite me pointing it out many times. The fact that neither of us knows what the report actually says and what the context of this report is, means that makes your own argument invalid. Yet you keep on using invalid statistics to desperately proof your point which does not seem to align with reality at all. If i know the true context of the reports, then i can critically answer to them. Now i can only tell it's most likely taken out of its context. The actual report probably talks about the context of the people they surveyed in a detailed way. The news article however does not mention anything about that. If you truly think a small sample of the people without any context is representative for everybody in a whole country, you don't understand one of the core principles of scientific research. There's a big difference between 'studies suggest' and 'studies confirm'. No matter the context, considering the relatively small sample, this research only suggests. If you keep on insisting they literally researched every single LGBT person in the country, whilst they clearly didn't... Well, i do not understand your stubbornness at all.
Keep this in mind ignorance does not change the reality itself, it only changes your perception of reality. Math is not an excuse for ignorance.
One thing i know if 'facts' are not aligned with reality, then the facts are incomplete. Serious scientists always admit their research isn't complete, and the ones who claim they know everything never get taken seriously, except by sensationalist news websites.Also please stop generalising 'the LGBT community' as if it was a homogenous - no pun intended - community. It is not. The so-called community you are familiar with probably goes against the Quran, the majority of the communities i'm familiar with don't go against it at all, or are 'up for debate'. And when taking the very low references to LGBT issues in the Quran in the context it's written in and the context of the actual world, it doesn't even once say it is wrong in se, but wrong depending on the reasonings behind it. Again, i repeat context. Or do you think God condemns context? (of course he doesnt!)
As i said before, these numbers seem realistic in some communities. But it does not sound realistic at all when taking in mind all the different types of communities that exist.I suggest you discontinue your involvement in this topic to spare yourself from further face loss.
@imrankhawaja that sounds plausible. But again, it only tells you about some homosexuals, which are still a minority, no matter how you toss and turn the facts. Or do you all still think we live in an eighties gay-disco-orgy and they're all dressed like He-Man?
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Sinem if you are indeed of the truthful then yours is a trial so endure it. God created men for women and women for men.
You will be transgressing if your answer to any of the following is yes
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Are you planning on altering your body with hormonal therapy or surgery? Are you going to change the way you were created?
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if you are attracted to men, do you plan on one day being intimate with men? Do you wish to approach men with lust?
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In other news, in Pakistan http//www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-pakistan-transgender-decree-20160628-snap-story.html
thats old story though