There is No God.
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Salaam Hope4,
I realise you may not have gathered, but you are using a translation, it does not say God, it says Allah, it is miss-interpreted as God in the Ayahs.
Quiet evidently you have taken it upon yourself to point out the obvious, without having first read what you are attempting to disprove, unfortunately I have paid attention, it is you who has failed utterly to manage it, read God and Allah, comprehend the difference between the two, not for my benefit, but for your own. From the tone of your post I doubt you will bother.
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Peace Abdun Nur
You seem to be arguing for the sake of arguing. I am not arguing or trying to prove any point here, however, you are. In the course of doing so you are extremely labelling towards other members of the forum and I take that as being arrogant. I am not saying that you are not logical or even wrong but the way you present your arguments or your facts are patronizing to others. Unfortunatly, I do not know arabic of the Quran or any other arabic for that matter, so I could not intepret the meaning of Allah and would like other brothers and sisters with knowledge to come forward and help us in this matter. My reasons for posting the ayats was to find out if you intepreted them differently? Coming back to the issue what do you have to say about the ayats below. Again I am not trying to disprove or prove anything but looking for different intepretations/ideas/ and points of view to help me in my understanding.
1121 Say ?He is God, the One,?
1122 ?God, the Indivisible,?
1123 ?He does not beget, nor was He begotten,?
1124 ?And there is none who is His equal.?Peace
Hope
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Salaam,
the foundation of Islam is this statement, There is No God, why then do Muslims continue to express belief in a God, have they failed to grasp the concept of God; Allah has no problem with the concept of God, and Allah has asked every Muslim to understand There is No God, before understanding any other idea, the very foundation of Islam, and this foundation is not understood.
If you would like to understand the foundation of Islam, and have a few minutes to spare to remove the Shirk of God, please have a read of the essay in the link below.
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/7/1/
Stop reading Angelus Silesius! Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Salaam Cushan,
you think I have a Roman Catholic view?
He believed man and God are one, which is a Jewish doctrine, they believe themselves to be a God.
I, on the other hand, am saying there is absolutely no God at all.
You have miss understood my perspective, you should read God and Allah sighted in the link.
Even if you dismiss the guidance of Allah explaining there is No God, there is a simple reason beyond this, as to why you can not say Allah and God are the same thing, because God is a male title, and Allah is without sex, the female is Godess.
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Salaam Meteora,
I noticed you were careful to avoid the God word, the foundation of Islam is there is No God, simple, and clear,
Finish the sentence The foundation of Islam is "There is no god but God". That doesn't mean "There is no God, yet there is a God".It means "There is only one God"
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Salaam Tareq,
Allah is a man then, not a women, in your eyes?
A God not a Goddess?As God is a word with gender, as it is a personification, you have not read the explanation on my website, you wish to believe in the subjugating lie of a God afar off, up in the sky, feel free, nothing I could say would alter a view based on conjecture, and in direct contradiction to the physical evidence.
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Salaam Abdun Nur,
Salaam Tareq,
Allah is a man then, not a women, in your eyes?
A God not a Goddess?Allah isn't human, so in my eyes he is neither man nor woman.
If Allah were male, that would imply a female counterpart and vice-versa.
I don't believe that God has a gender.As God is a word with gender, as it is a personification, you have not read the explanation on my website, you wish to believe in the subjugating lie of a God afar off, up in the sky, feel free, nothing I could say would alter a view based on conjecture, and in direct contradiction to the physical evidence.
Are any Arabic words without gender?
Is "bab" male?
Is "madrasa" female?
I don't know where you got the impression that I believe that God is "afar off, up in the sky". I will take a good look at your site and get back.
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Salaam Tareq,
Allah is a man then, not a women, in your eyes?
A God not a Goddess?As God is a word with gender, as it is a personification, you have not read the explanation on my website, you wish to believe in the subjugating lie of a God afar off, up in the sky, feel free, nothing I could say would alter a view based on conjecture, and in direct contradiction to the physical evidence.
Sorry, but that is such an illogical argument. A text-book straw-man logical fallacy. You can certainly believe allah = The God, without postulating an abstract, pie-in-the-sky type god.
Peace
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Salaam Tareq and Jack,
as I said you are not interested in understanding, you go round in circles, and I have little interest in explaining to those who have no interest in understanding, you ignore God and Goddess, male and female, and continue to view things without reason, you wish to believe in a personified God, I have little time to waste on pointless debate.
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Salaam Rev John,
as they say, ignorance is bliss, and you are filled with so much bliss, you cup runeth over, as Christians love to say.
"don't let me ruin your dreams" -Frustration
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ignore-ance is bliss
Yeah, sometimes it is good to ignore.
Salaam Rev John,
it was not an insult, just an observation, if what you say is true, it confirms my point, ignore-ance is bliss, they have no interest in thought, just in religion.
Eh, to whom does your they refer?
I can see your first it refers to a previous post. And so the second it refers to another previous post. And you, Rev.John it seems. And my, obviously you.
Just an observation. It is not an insult.
Peace.
P.S. i have just deciphered it, your they refer to 'many people have him on ignore', right? Yeehaa, i'm not that ignorant after all!
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Great article OP. Reminds me of Exodus 314. And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
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Hello....
"They have certainly disbelieved who say, ?Allah (Not God) is the third of three*, and there is no god except one God.? And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. (Surah 5 - 73) - from servantof thelight
573 Rejecters indeed are those who have said God is a trinity! There is no god except One god. If they do not cease from what they are saying, then those who reject from among them will be afflicted with a painful retribution. - freeminds.org
*Allh al-ab meaning God the father, Allh al-ibn mean God the son, and Allh al-r al-quds meaning God the Holy Spirit.
This interesting as allah is not even given the first place.-Webster?s Dictionary gives the definition and etymology of Allah as follows. Allah is the Muslim name for "the God." Allah is derived from two words "al," which means "the" and "ilah," which is related to the feminine Hebrew word for God, "eloah."
If the above is true for "La illah ha illallah" , then it would be similar to say ?there is no car but The Car?. A contradiction. Is not the car still a car? This even makes allah smaller as allah is just another god and looking back at the xtian concept no wonder allah was qualified as the third of the 3....i am just thinking aloud..Yes I am using the translation form ser.......com?How would you interpret "Allah La Ilaha Illa Huwa Al Hay Al Qayoom"?
I too wanna know!!A peaceful approach to truth may work wonders?..