Shahr -- Does It Have Anything To Do With "MOON"?
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Allah have a house,is Saudi arabia. (of course)
Allah have a favourite arab month,Ramadhan (of course)
Allah have only two symbols ,and they are in Saudi Arabia (safa marwa)
So the complete book is not so complete as we thought it was, because one of the decrees can not be performed without the Arabic calendar?
God's book is dependent on a man-made calendar, and it is incidentally an Arabic one? how convenient.BOB
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For reason indeed We have made it/Grand Qur'aan easy to comprehend in the mother tongue/Arabic language of you ,Allah wrote His Book and "depended" upon the language of a person Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam.
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Have read 92-5, which only strengthen the question--let me repeat What are those four Sacred Months, if you know the truth?
Start from announcement in Zul-Hijjah and count onwards when four sacred months will end, and you will even find its name to have relationship with "four" despite being the third month of the lunar calendar of Arabia.
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BOB
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For reason indeed We have made it/Grand Qur'aan easy to comprehend in the mother tongue/Arabic language of you ,Allah wrote His Book and "depended" upon the language of a person Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam.
Ahaa
Of course God Almighty, who created the universe, is DEPENDING on the language of Syedana Mohammed. He didnt chose Syedana Mohammed as a prophet because of his abilities, he did not choose the language because it easy to understand (practical), but rather because God Almighty had no choice, he had to .
He created the Universe, but couldnt give us the Hijra calendar ? If we are supposed to follow God's book, he must give a detailed description of each ordinance no matter where we live and what century we live in. The command shouldnt depend on information outside the Quran.
please dont say Allah's commands in the book is dependent on man made calendars because its in arabic ?
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Peace )
Do I need to say that this Day is of Zul-Hijjah
And "yawm Al-Hajj" depends on the month of Dzul-Hijjah*, which depends on the Hijri lunar calendar, which depends on the decision of the second caliph Umar?
(*instead of on the "adzan" from Allah and his rasul)
And what is Hajj ? please explain
Good question.
Mazhar, how do you fit your Hajj concept into the context of verses 91-6?
Especially, where is the relevance today? -
And "yawm Al-Hajj" depends on the month of Dzul-Hijjah*, which depends on the Hijri lunar calendar, which depends on the decision of the second caliph Umar?
(*instead of on the "adzan" from Allah and his rasul)
It seems you consider Lunar Calendar/Months and Hijri calendar one and the same thing, while they are not.
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Good question.
Mazhar, how do you fit your Hajj concept into the context of verses 91-6?
Especially, where is the relevance today?If you read it without preconceived understanding borrowed from so called Doctors, you might see that it also contains procedure/injunction for revoking a no war treaty with a nation. It cannot be revoked without a public notice of four months.
The issue here is not Hajj as Raaajah rightly pointed out to Bob, but determining four sacred months, about which you enquired.
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Peace,
If you read it without preconceived understanding borrowed from so called Doctors, you might see that it also contains procedure/injunction for revoking a no war treaty with a nation. It cannot be revoked without a public notice of four months.
What Doctors? I have not hardwired my own brain. I'll take the most logical evidence, the most consistent with the rest of "Al-Diyn Al-Qayyim", that's all.
I agree about the withdrawal of a no-war treaty, but i differ on the interpretation of "shahr". The reason for the withdrawal of the treaty is because the 'other party' themselves withdraw "Al-ashhuru 'l-urumu"==not because "four months" have 'passed'.
It seems you consider Lunar Calendar/Months and Hijri calendar one and the same thing, while they are not.
So you are not following Hijri calendar? Then what lunar calendar are you using for your Hajj and fasting?
The issue here is not Hajj as Raaajah rightly pointed out to Bob, but determining four sacred months, about which you enquired.
i can understand if you are not willing to explain your view on Hajj here Pity, because that would explain a lot.
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It seems you consider Lunar Calendar/Months and Hijri calendar one and the same thing, while they are not.San
So you are not following Hijri calendar? Then what lunar calendar are you using for your Hajj and fasting?The problem with you seems that you consider Months of Lunar Year as Hijri calendar. Hijri calendar counts "Muslims Years", the years from the base year of Migration from Mecca to Madina. The Months of Hajj and Fasting remain the same as were in years before Migration.
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The problem with you seems that you consider Months of Lunar Year as Hijri calendar. Hijri calendar counts "Muslims Years", the years from the base year of Migration from Mecca to Madina. The Months of Hajj and Fasting remain the same as were in years before Migration.
How do you know that? can you show us the "calender" designed by Allah ? from the Quran plz. Who made the Hijra Calendar, Syedana Mohammed ? You didnt answer my question, what is Hajj? when did the Quran tell us about the MONTH Hajj?
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Why would Hajj be the name of a month? Thats why i need to know what Hajj is.
This is not the name of month. Name of month is Dhu al-Hijjah, the 12th month of lunar year. And consult dictionary to know what Dhu means, which may enable you to understand that it refers to the Month during which Hajj is performed.
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This is not the name of month. Name of month is Dhu al-Hijjah, the 12th month of lunar year. And consult dictionary to know what Dhu means, which may enable you to understand that it refers to the Month during which Hajj is performed.
Can you show me the Ayat from the Quran that tells us that Dhul Hajj is the 12th month in a "Islamic" calendar? And the ayat which says that the Hajj should be performed in this month? Refer to the Qur'an, plz. hmmm, what is the" Hajj", which must be performed in "Dhul hajj"? ???
Who designed the Hijra calendar? Syedana Mohammed or Allah ?
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Can you show me the Ayat from the Quran that tells us that Dhul Hajj is the 12th month in a "Islamic" calendar? And the ayat which says that the Hajj should be performed in this month? Refer to the Qur'an, plz. hmmm, what is the" Hajj", which must be performed in "Dhul hajj"? ???
Who designed the Hijra calendar? Syedana Mohammed or Allah ?
Just see the Root and read the Aayat where it occurs, may be you understand, provided you wish to understand.