The Search for Muhammad has Ended
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Huruf is a sister!
Kakak huruf itu perempuan, lho. Jangan kaget yaa. D
Oya, selamat datang di forum ya, kak. )
Salaam.
oh ok my bad, then probably it may best to bring umbrella and skin protection cream, should sister huruf decide to come along on pazuzu expedition
Sama sama ya )
Salam
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Peace,
As bro Pazuzu wrote
There you go, brothers and sisters. You heard it from their own mouths. The scientific truth shows no mercy towards our traditional beliefs. The truth is sharp, and makes no comprimise for anyone. (The real serpent swallows up the illusion of the dancing ropes). The truth KILLS. If only the Hadithists would listen to Hertzog! But it must be hard?very hard?for those who have taken conjecture as the authority over the truth. And until they think again, ?until they swallow that red pill?they will linger in their delusions forever.
It is not surprising as MORONS EXITED THEN, EXITS NOW AND WILL EXIT IN THE FUTURE, they cannot accept the TRUTH. They are following their own assumption and conjectures without realizing that its nothing more but blatant Jewish lies!.
Bro Pazuzu not only quote Kamal Salibi, who is in fact an EXPERT in Middle Eastern History but many others such as Fadhel Al-Rubaye'e and Taha Hussain. These people are / were true historians. Let me quote Pazuzu'
Have you ever heard of Taha Hussain?
He was an Egyptian literary genius who wrote many books on history, folklore, and Arabian poetry. He was announced an apostate (kafir) by the mullahs of Al-Azhar university in Cairo. Do you know why? It is because he doubted the historicity of the current-day Maccah, or that Abraham was even in that region, and called for archeological excavations to be conducted to confirm the traditions.
Here is a photo of him
Taha Hussein (1889-1973)
He also wrote a highly controversial book (which I am now trying to get my hands on), in which he PROVED, beyond doubt, that the so-called ?Jahiliyya Poetry? is NOT pre-Islamic poetry at all. By examining the style of the verses and their contents, he concluded that it could not have been produced before the Quran. As a result, he ASSUMEDthat this type of poetry was in fact invented during the Abbasid Era and projected backwards onto a false time period, in order to invent legendary deeds and lineages for the Arabian tribes, which they could boast of in their poetry. In fact, there was an article posted here on FM (not sure if it was by brother Ayman or Layth), which also discusses the fact that Jahiliyyah poetry was not in fact pre-Islamic.
The proofs that Taha Hussein presented regarding the authenticity of his findings were so powerful, that the intellectually bankrupt "ulema" of Al-Azhar were placed in a corner, and could not refute him. So they resorted to their usual response insults and takfeer. Another late Egyptian scholar (I think it was Nasr Hamed Abu Zayd) made an allusion to how Taha Hussein pretty much "destroyed" the Azhar scholars.
But there is one thing Taha Hussein may not have noticed. A piece of the puzzle that slipped by him...
It is not the history of the Jahiliyya Poetry that was hijacked. No. The "pre-Islamic" poets that they taught us about in school, like Zuheir Bin Abi Salmah, Tarafa, Umru' al-Qays, and others, were not inventions by the Abbasids. They actually lived around 400-500 AD. What Taha Hussein failed to grasp, is that it is the QURAN that has been hijacked and its history projected forward in time, thus creating the delusion that Jahiliyyah poetry was pre-Islamic.
So basically, Taha Hussein (along with Ayman or Layth) were 100% correct in his assessment regarding Jahiliyya Poetry, only the conclusion he reached was wrong, because he had the preconceived notion that the Quran was revealed around 600 AD.
Fadhel Al-Rubaye'e quote
Dr.Fadel al-Rubaie denied any relationship of any kind between the Torah and Palestine, stressing that the names, places and events that came in the Torah are Yemeni names and locations, and some still exist even today.
He denies strongly that Joshua Ben-Nun had crossed the Jordan River to Jericho, and inscriptions and figures available indicate that Joshua Ben-Nun actually travelled to the land of Yemen.
This was all said in a lecture given by Dr Rubaie on Tuesday evening in the Jordanian Writers Association Forum moderated by Dr Hisham Ghassib.
..Al-Rubaie in his lecture spoke of the need to re-correct the region's history, and on top of that the history of Palestine, which requires corrections to the historical narrative promoted by Orientalists that are based in their stories of the Torah that they read misleadingly. He stressed that Jerusalem is not Jerusalem, and Jews have no trace in the Palestinian territories, and if there is housing in Palestine from the Jews it is from the sons of the Arab tribes that migrated from Arabian Peninsula.
...Israel want to revive the Hebrew language, originally a Greek dialect.
The lecture included a heavy presence of intellectuals and other interested members.
Al Akhbar interviewed him last year and he said?Give me one example in which old Jerusalem is mentioned in the Torah.? He notes that the city used to be called Ilia not Jerusalem. Therefore, there is no narrative text on Jerusalem prior to the Islamic conquest.
In the entire Tanach, which mentions Jerusalem about 700 times, Josephus, the Christian scriptures and Not to mention the Dead Sea Scrolls, are full of lies!
The Torah, according to what al-Rubai has documented, refers to old Jerusalem as located in Yemen and not in Palestine. He explains, ?This is what the Assyrian and Babylonian inscriptions have proven, for they refer to nine enslavement campaigns that took place in Yemen, not Palestine.? But why have historical narratives documented that the Babylonian enslavement incident as having occurred in Palestine?
Al-Rubai, who authored The Truth Behind the Babylonian Enslavement, says, ?The reason lies in the monopoly over this tragic story, which was later used in the Holocaust narrative as a continuation of the historical persecution of the Jews, thus reinforcing their role as historical victims. All we need to do is to go back to the history of al-Tabari, which clearly mentions that Nebuchadnezzar?s invasion was of Yemen and not Palestine.?
Based on these controversial revelations, al-Rubai solidly concludes in his thesis that Judaism is an old Arabic religion, and the Torah is a Yemeni "book". He also concludes that old Jerusalem is not present-day Jerusalem. It is located in Yemen and not Asir, as the late intellectual Kamal al-Salibi concluded in his book The Bible Came from Arabia.
Al-Rubai says, ?I am not under the illusion that these ideas will prevail soon, given the presence of an enormous media power that dominates the historical narrative. It is enough to seek the documentation of our history from a critical perspective, away from the Orientalist lie. Perhaps what Edward Said has accomplished in that regard has shaken this perception to a great extent.?
Yes, this is the state of Arab intellectualism. The Jews are so powerful that they have managed to retroactively change history itself in order to profit from the Holocaust!
Peace
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Since someone mentioned the Amarna Letters and decided to superimpose his version of the "translation" thereof, I will point out that two can play this game.
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The word "PHARAOH" does not appear anywhere on these tablets as designative of the Egyptian kings.
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The word "Khapiru" which they slober over, does not point to the Israelites. In the context of the letters, it simply means "outlaws" or "nomads".
Let's see what Egyptian archeologist, Ashraf Ezzat, who examined the Amarna Letters, says regarding the Zionist corruption of history in general
https//ashraf62.wordpress.com/
And regarding the Amarna tablets is particular
https//ashraf62.wordpress.com/tag/amarna-letters/
You should bear in mind that Mr. Ezat updated the information found on the site in his recently published book
http//www.amazon.com/Egypt-knew-Pharaohs-nor-Israelites-ebook/dp/B00U8VK8JE/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1430288411&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=Ashraf+Ezat
More to come soon, especially on the matter of the Hyksos and the so-called "Canaanites"
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Pazuzu is too kind answering two people who show too much slobness, even to take the trouble of going through the very writings they criticise and therefore have been doing nothing but bubbling hot air. The Amarna tablets indeed, which are routine amongst Pazuzus writings detractors, when in fact it is worthless for the purpose, have bene discussed already in this forum more than once.
As to their advice to Pazuzu and me and others to go and dig, they could have better used it for themselves and they do not have to go to Yemen to dig anything, they just had to dig a little in these very forums.
But they are either to vain or too lazy to let that stop them from posing their "knowledgeability". They must think the rest of us are idiots who need caretakers full of themselves mouthing big words as if we just came from the bush and were not used to such exquisite stuff, when in fact they what they offer is the very common run of the mill appearance of pretenders to something they are far grom being, parading knowledge and that kind of thing. One is too old to be impressed by such a childish act. I think anybody is too old to be taken by such plumpness.
Salaam
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Also these two "knowledgeable" critics have been consistently ignoring the main point in this question and the reason why it is being dealt with in these forums, to wit, whether orientalist and hadithist "history"jat the text of the Qur'an or not.
Obvioulsy they do not match it. They contradict it consistently. So history or not history, The orientalist and hadithist versions should be outright rejected by those who trust the Qur'an to tell always the truth.
Several times I have pointed that out, and for all their recommendations to goodness and faithfulness to poor conventional history, they have not touched the Qur'aan. It is much nicer when the Qur'aan just keeps beeing a meek servant to the bloated idiocy of waters parting in the middle of the sea, full Holywoodwise and so much "truth" as we are used to be fed by the sacred history "everybody knows it".
Salaam
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Dr Ashraf Ezat is a doctor in medicine lmao. These are the kind of experts you are referring to? No surprises there. Keep the propaganda coming brickwall
@Huruf if you want to see hollywood, Ashraf Ezat is pure hollywood. This man is a politically motivated moviemaker and doesn't have any degrees in history. There are zero peer reviews of his work. Because he is rightfully not even considered a peer. He's a doctor in medicine with wild fantasies about history who enjoys making movies of his fiction. It's typical of pazuzu's style to project people like that as qualified doctors at universities without even mentioning their field of expertise. Pazuzu calling him an archaeologist is an outright lie. Not the first one and I'm sure it wont be the last of his lies.
According to my house doctor israel was in belgium. Check this evidence!
https//www.google.be/maps/place/Nazareth/@50.9408933,3.7252597,12z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x47c36d346bd85ccb0xb9a7c868c273024b
Some of you really need to look up the word negationism and understand what it means.
As in any academic discipline, historians submit their papers for peer review, however, instead of submitting their work to the challenges of a peer review, revisionists rewrite history to support an agenda, often political, and use many techniques and rhetorical fallacies to obtain the desired results. In doing so, the revisionists therefore engages in deceiving their audience into believing manipulated information
Disinformation? Check
Denial? Check
Relativization and trivialization? CheckPeace
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?Oh, my, a doctor in medicine! ?How wicked! Whereas dr. runninglike zebras is a doctor in everything particularly on Pazuzus works. A miraculous dr. yhat without reading anything knows everything? ?How does a dr. in medicine attempt to match dr. runninglkikezebras wits and hipoknowledge in everything. The only thing dr. runninglikezebras fear seesm to be the Qur'an.
Salaam
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Huruf,
I'm not pretending to know everything. I'm pointing out none of the experts pazuzu cites from submit peer reviews or are even considered peers. Others cited by pazuzu who do submit peer reviews can't show one positive peer review. This is important to be able to maintain standards of quality and credibility. Without peer reviews, one can fantasize and sell it as fact.
Peer review is the evaluation of work by one or more people of similar competence to the producers of the work (peers). It constitutes a form of self-regulation by qualified members of a profession within the relevant field. Peer review methods are employed to maintain standards of quality, improve performance, and provide credibility. In academia peer review is often used to determine an academic paper's suitability for publication. Peer review can be categorized by the type of activity and by the field or profession in which the activity occurs, e.g., medical peer review.
I would appreciate if you stop the immature slandering of my person. It's not appreciated.
Peace
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I would appreciate if you stop the immature slandering of my person. It's not appreciated.
Your immature slandering of Pazuzu does not consider you as educated and professional. If you are really educated and professional you should discuss further on this subject instead of slandering.
Further, you look down on ME professional like the Late Kamal Salibi what because he was Middle Eastern and not European? The reason why his findings became a controversial issue because it did not acknowledge the present Israel. True, this findings has been for more than 30 years and fyi, Salibi was not he first to discovered it. In fact, it was Bernard Leeman who was one of the first to discovered this but off course when such issue which did not please the Zionist Imperialist, dissolve in thin air. If it is not for people like Fadhel Al-Rubaye, Kamal Salibi and others, I believe we will not know the true history of the Middle East and of the Orient. The credit should go to Pazuzu for bringing up this topic.
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Your immature slandering of Pazuzu does not consider you as educated and professional. If you are really educated and professional you should discuss further on this subject instead of slandering.
Further, you look down on ME professional like the Late Kamal Salibi what because he was Middle Eastern and not European? The reason why his findings became a controversial issue because it did not acknowledge the present Israel. True, this findings has been for more than 30 years and fyi, Salibi was not he first to discovered it. In fact, it was Bernard Leeman who was one of the first to discovered this but off course when such issue which did not please the Zionist Imperialist, dissolve in thin air. If it is not for people like Fadhel Al-Rubaye, Kamal Salibi and others, I believe we will not know the true history of the Middle East and of the Orient. The credit should go to Pazuzu for bringing up this topic.
Good post, Hizbullah,
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The tremendous amount of work carried out by Pazuzu and others, the virtual books he has polished to make them available to people without expecting anything back have not deserved even a reading by a person that on his mere previous knowledge of the name of Kamal Salibi and Salibi's part in discrediting the worshipping of the bible as a history book took upon himself the task of attacking and discrediting Pazuzu.
Were there any honesty in that, he would have read the books and all the material available in the forum which is plenty and would have discussed to the point. The first time he did not do that could pass, but after it was pointed out to him that there were many things written in the forum concerning those matters and even several books, he should have taken his time before continuing with the onslaught. He did not. He continued on the assumption that What he projected on Pazuzu was reality and that we were some kind of sheep that follow Pazuzu as if we were under the pressing need of follwing any guru.
May be sometime this century the attacker will do things right and discuss to the point if he has something to discuss. As things are now, he has nothing to discuss but just pull down another member's image.
But he is right in one thing, there are people who appreciate Pazuzus work, not blindly, because without becoming blind there is enough merit in it to make it valuable. Nobody has been perfect an complete in the world since its creation and neither is Pazuzu, but nobody expects that from anybody else, so, reasonably arguing, there are many here who feel and know that Pazuzu's work has made them more aware, knowledgeable and satisfied that truth is being acknowledged and its light will liberate the minds now clogged by "idols" made up by religious books disguised as history and the following they have had among professionals of hsitory, not always out of intent, but simply because of taking unproved things for granted. That happens not only with the bible and the "bible geography". That happens with any things grounded on those assumptions and others derived from them or similar to them.
And the Qur'an, as has been pointed out by Pazuzu and others, encloses many clear hints or statements that should give us good pointers. But this habit of taking for granted that the Bible solves the Qur'an riddles and not the other way round, will keep us suffering delusions such as those made evident by some of Pazuzu's detractors.
And not for nothing, people who appreciate and value Pazuzu's work and the service he tries to give to people it that work are not making a star out of him, but those who attack him seem bent on making him indeed such a star. Funny.
Salaam
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...Nobody has been perfect an complete in the world since its creation and ...
Salaam,
Slightly off topic The sectarians believe their scholars, the chains of transmissions, and their opinions are perfect and complete, being first conceived in late antiquity (mid 7th century). Just saying.
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oh ok my bad, then probably it may best to bring umbrella and skin protection cream, should sister huruf decide to come along on pazuzu expedition
And why you behave like that, brother?
If you truly listen and obey Allah's messages in the Qur'an, then you should not behave like that.
Who do you serve? If you serve Allah, then please behave righteous.
In my opinion, ridiculing other people is like "serving the satan". So, please be careful.
When we do not agree with other's understanding, then we don't have to ridicule them, right?
I like sister huruf and brother Pazuzu. Maybe you should know them more, I think they're nice, and I respect both of them. I hope you could respect them as well.
Salaam.
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Salaam,
Pazuzu's research is interesting in many ways although I consider the center of the ancient clergy to have been in Mesopotamia and part of the Persian Empire's faith system that developed over time. Obviously there were multiple branches (sects) too.
Today's Israel has little to do with Judah etc.
Bible's Old Testament shows a very strong influence of Zoroastrianism and to such extent it actually is the practice of Zoroastrianism in many parts, e.g. "high places", fire altars etc. If one honestly examines OT they will clearly see it is a Zoroastrian faith system in it.
There are no traces of a mighty empire of David and Solomon. The empire is suggested in scriptures to have been enormously huge with great wealth and no historical rulers fit it for this region except the Persian Empire. The Persian Empire, mostly controlled from Susa (Shush), had such extent it could have hosted kings like David and Solomon. During several hundred years the Persian Empire controlled today's Israel region. It collides with David and Solomon. The Persian Empire is also the largest recorded empire, particularly during the first kings.
Few rich cultures develop where there are no or few possibilities for agriculture and Arabia is too arid and probably why the Persian Empire never chose to expand (settle) on the Arabian Peninsula. It was not interesting to them. If you see old Persian Empire maps you see it mainly stretched over fertile soil regions.
Mesopotamia had a great river system and has been a potential agricultural site. Abraham was born in Ur which is in Mesopotamia.
Today's Persia had more water with rivers in the past. I have studied the geography on site. There are many dried out river systems.
By the way, 'Herod' in the Biblical Gospels is a title for the kind of king which ruled during this period. If you look at Persian rulers you will see 7-8 kings named Herod during which time the alleged Jesus event took place.
Just 'rud' is also a typical ancient Persian word. Nimrud is an example. And in old times you greeted each other 'Durud' (hello) and 'Bedrud' (goodbye) there.
Jesus visited a city called Nain. There is an ancient city in today's Iran which is called Nain.
If there were settlements on the Arabian Peninsula they were probably next to the sea, Yemen etc.
In today's Iraq there are many places starting with Tel in the name, just like Tel Aviv. Today's Israel was only an extent of 'Judah' and part of the Persian clergy.
I still consider the main events of the Bible and prophets to have occurred in Mesopotamia. You also have Nineveh there where Jonah lived.
A question is of course where Quran was written and by what people. But as how it is it seems to never have been fully understood due to the gross misinterpretations available. Of course, if we are to defend Pazuzu's work a little, Yemen seems to have been involved with Quran's early time, but I still feel Persia was greatly involved with the clergy. It is strange that Ali allegedly moved his family into today's Iraq according to Shia ideas. It is a Persian history fabrication perhaps, but I think it may have been true. He may have retreated into the Persian clerical region.
I also share mmkhan's thinking that there may never have been any man called Muhammad or Ahmad. I think Ali ibn abu talib wrote Quran. It was a prophecy just as Isaiah wrote about future prophecies. He was offered shelter with his family elsewhere (Mesopotamia) after heavy persecution. Eventually his whole family was massacred, if we are to believe the official story, over Quran.
What is told in hadith I have a hard time believing at all. That Muhammad is not even righteous and do not act like a prophet. A prophet would not order conquest and he would not go to a place where people are spiritually shallow.
Today's Quran is a hijacked scripture by a clergy who could hardly understand a word. They sat down and tinkered and tinkered, guessed and used their doctrinal knowledge to interpret Quran and inserted their doctrine's religious rules and practices where they saw fit even if it was not necessarily right. Early transcripts do not have diacritical marks and this they added in their own studies according to their understanding and it is not original with the Arabic.
I have found old inscriptions with Arabic passages from Quran in Persia (Iran today) during my studies (I am on site) and they all lack diacritics, even over ALLAH (ه. I could upload photographs I have taken at some point. In my point of view, ALLAH comes from the root (alif-lam-lam), the same as the article (al) which means "near as/such as". The (ha) is just a suffix. ALLAH means "to be (such) as it", just as GOD said to Moses in the Biblical scriptures "I am that am I". ALLAHEM means just the plural version, i.e. when you refer to several people who are like The Rabb who tread in the same symbiotic image. I have never had a stronger ability to explain this than now, and this also using ancient Arabic dictionaries.
It is hard to explain ALLAH. If people have watched the fantasy science fiction Star Trek they can refer to 'the Borg'. ALLAH works like the Borg with the mainframe being The Rabb which all nodes (individuals) are interconnected with.
There is no separation to be made between user (you) and The Rabb (the mainframe). This is the idolatrous mistake people make when they vainly worship an image of something in their sect. There is no worship. Moses and those who understood his teachings knew this 4000 years ago already and it is in the 10 Commandments on stone tablets which were twisted in interpretation in later times and the original tablets lost somehow. Statute number two says "Take no image of anything in Heaven (the invisible realm) and Earth (what is visible) and worship it". It did not say OTHER, it said worship any image, at all. And this is 4000 years ago, roughly. The first statute says "Immerse/involve/serve in ELOHIM alone" meaning treat in the one and same image without separation. There is no separate GOD image.
Sorry for covering more than only about Muhammad in my post, but it is all related. People are so beguiled by ancient sectarian doctrines.
Salaam
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Maybe Man of Faith, one also needs to be in Yemen on-site,
look for other explanations and make alternative conjectures,
as denying Muhammad's Prophethood and attributing it to Ali is in fact an Alawite concept I cannot accept,
unless you rule out The Quran as revelation, which I cannot agree with.
Now if your agenda is to push an Alawite/Zoroastrian/Shia narrative, you are free of course, but I don't share your conclusions, and I know many in this forum do not.
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Salaam theNabster,
It is of course not without consideration I am saying what I did. I have no agenda but I like the truth probably just as much as you like.
I have actually not convinced myself concerning the existence or non-existence of Muhammad, but there is a lot that does not add up. It does not really matter since I have Quran and a way of interpreting it, even if I am curious about who wrote Quran.
Whether Ali wrote Quran or not is also figuratively speaking and as far as I am concerned I wrote "I think" based upon what I have seen and heard and logical considerations. Concerning hadith and hearsay this Ali has the most righteous wordings attributed to him.
As I wrote in the earlier post, the Persian empire did severely affect the faith system in the Middle-East and were involved in more than people care to admit. The greater part of the so-called Old Testament and also Book of Moses testify to a big Zoroastrian influence to an extent that the practice is in fact Zoroastrianism all out. I study the origin of Zoroastrianism myself and their practices.
The important thing with this is not whether it is authentic or not but how Persians had influence in the region on religious matters with their clergy because the Persians were not really Pagans all of them but they adhered to what is called Zoroastrianism which could be considered a monotheism. If you have dominance somewhere you also have dominance of religious matters.
It is not without research that I talked about Jesus whereabouts and it is true that much of the events of faith involving the tradition of the Abrahamic faiths are taking place in Mesopotamia (today's Iraq) and also Elam, but possibly westward too. Nineveh was there, Ur was there, Babylon was there.
I am not pushing a Shia ideology if you think that I am doing this. But I know Quran has been mistreated and not exactly kept in high regard through the years. Yemen is interesting from the Arabic perspective. However, history is not as officially relayed but very different. Persians WERE very influential in perverting modern Islam and it is not exactly that one can deny that in their right mind. I am not speaking positively in my previous post about Persians if that is what you think. I am speaking of a corrupting clergy with great influence due to the greatness of the old empire(s) Persia. It is denial to think they had no finger in this.
I think Persian rebels and clerics rallied the Arabs against Persia's weakened state due to political disputes and took the right to interpret Quran in a currently to me unknown way except through hypotheses. The alleged conquest of Persia happened early according to traditional reports. That Sunni hadith are written by men of Persian descent is a hint of that. Actually it was just a power struggle and hunt for loot and world domination.
The Persian Empire(s) are also known for adopting other languages than their own as offical language. Aramaic was made the Imperial language (Achemedian), probably for religious reasons. Later Arabic was made the Imperial language for religious reasons (as the caliphates of Islam). Still Persians were behind it. You all the time have to regard who control empires everywhere for they control religious spread and the clerics fabricate things for convenience.
Persia, despite their power, never really officially conquered the Arabian peninsula even if they probably could have.
Many people have to tone down on their Arab nationalism too.
The true story about the so-called "Islamic Golden Age" we probably have to search further for. I think it was just an endless fight for dominance and spoils and much unrighteousness, as usual. And the twisted Islam religion as a weapon of seducing the masses with an interpretation far from the original Arabic Quran is written in. I have doubts anyone ever even interpreted Quran as intended. It feels like someone stole the freshly compiled book and started wreaking havoc on it. It suits certain hadith involving Ali too.
How you draw the conclusion that one has to rule out Quran as a revelation because of Ali I do not understand though.
I am going to research more on Muhammad as a person at some point and how he fits linguistically in Quran. I am not ruling him out but I am also not absolutely sure about his existence.
Salaam
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You are in doubt over the historicity of Muhmammad? This while even non-islamic historians agree he was beyond any doubt a historical figure?
Maybe you should change your name to Man of Doubt/Confusion?
Peace
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Is it so?
Before you arrogantly accuse others with your usual venom and biggotry, and spew your legal vomit and political correctness in here, you should know that most of the "garbage" you read on these threads has been updated and put into a series of e-books. At the beginning of these e-books is a disclaimer page which clearly states that the books are simply compilations of what other researchers and academics have said regarding the issue, quoting articles, statements they made in seminars, passages from books (showing the reference at the end of each book), and that the compilers have not sought any material gain, nor do they hold any rights to the materials therein. In fact 90% of what is written can be downloaded for free off the net, albeit in Arabic, not in English. Therefore it is not the theory of Pazuzu, nor did Pazuzu ever, in any way shape and form, claim it as his own.
That's from a legal perspective. As for what you actually think of the research itself, and the credibility of the subject, this is something each individual reader will have to decide for himself. And in the end, your opinion and the soles of my shoes are about equal.
Have a nice day.
Does anybody no where one can access these e-books??
Please and thank you
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Please leave Jesus out of this. The subject of "Jesus" cannot be done any justice, unless it is kept in a seperate thread.
I can't post in 3 threads at the same time.I have one more post to make in the "Pharaoh of Moses" thread, and then I will permanently sign out from there, and focus my attention here.
Does anybody also know
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What other 2 threads he was referring to?
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If he still somewhat active and available to take questions and discuss ideas?
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If not does anyone know what happened to him and why?
Thanks
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