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If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword

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    How To Read The Verses Of Quran?

    5.13
    "Then when they broke the covenant We cursed them; and We made their hearts harden. They alter the meanings of Our verses from their respective Signs; and they have forgotten a part of the admonition We have given them; therefore except for a few, you shall be constantly seeing the fulsomeness of the most of the people; so forgive and slight them aside. Allah certainly loves those who do good things."

    The verses of the scripture is meant for the guidance of the person who look up to it; and the bottom line for the comprehension of every word and verse of the scripture is the presenting situation of an individual who seeks help and protection from his God to save him and to conduct him in His straight path. But they ignored the real time, contextual comprehension of the verses; instead resorted to distorted timeline history for the verses of scripture; thus the rejecters broke a part of the covenant and rendered the scripture as futile 2/161. Curse be upon the religious leaders who concealed that which has been clarified in the scripture for the people.

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      Until We Find Our Respective Messengers ....,

      5.15
      O the people of the Book, ?Verily Our messenger@ has come to you; he will make clear to you of that which you cannot comprehend of the Book while leaving the rest; assuredly there has come to you from your God the Book clear, luminous?.

      @ Here Allah describes in the present tense about a messenger being with each people of various communities, speaking different languages 14/4 chosen from among the people of each community in every town; in all the cities, the capitals and the nations for all mankind and of all mankind. This means there had always been messengers before allover the world, there are messengers now allover the world, and there will ever be messengers allover the world, speaking ethnic languages foreign to arabic. And they will be known only to those who have the wisdom of the Book and to who Allah alone 13/43 shall be the witness. Wisdom has no language for it is the Truth itself which has to be felt, perceived, to be believed, to be ascertained through the Signs, by which belief shall further strengthen one?s identity in the path of Allah, so naturally; this nature becomes the inherent superior quality of the people with the wisdom of the Book for which Allah stands the only witness; the clear Sign of such people of wisdom is that they see their entire future crossing the boundaries of the present worldly life as luminous. Such are the messengers chosen by Allah, from among every ethnic population.

      The Prayer O my God, show me my messenger of my language
      And guide me with wisdom.

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        Qurbani = Nearness to Allah
        Adam = Mankind

        5.27
        Narrate the incidence of the two descendants of the Adam; when they both sacrificed, from one of them it is accepted and it was not accepted from the other - said he, ?I will surely kill you!? Said the other verily Allah accepts only from those who fear Him.

        Adam is the first cropping up of mankind on the earth and follow up generations started with regeneration of mankind through men and women 29/20; and they became the descendants of Adam. The above narration is the example between any two religions, or between two groups, or the enmity between two individuals as the behaviour of the general public, the descendants of Adam. When any one is bestowed with the grace of Allah, because of his nearness to Him, the other becomes envious and grows even to become a killer. The nearness to Allah is possible only when we sacrifice the beliefs of this world?s ways and means of survival or association to Allah, but look up to Allah alone steadfast by His leave, for a glorious life thereafter.

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          Nothing to worry; nothing to rejoice Peace

          Here is one of our brothers in Islam here has personally messaged for a solution to his problem; it is not his problem alone but the problem with many of us all our lives; this problem manifests either overtly or covertly lurking deep in the heart; either aware of or unaware of to one's own self. There is nothing to worry about this from the Quranic point of view and by the word of Allah.

          Peace!

          I am in quite a pickle right now. In 2011 I went into Fana and also entered the state of spiritual madness back in 2010-2011. This completed further down the line, Oct 2011 (entry into Fana). Because of this I'm involved with mental health services and they are giving me medications, which cure nothing and suppress the gentle Ruh, well, try to anyway.

          I need to make a living for myself but I don't know where to begin. I have a job for the time being but somehow that doesn't feel like a long term option. I'd like to just move out into the world and start afresh, to open to Allah's vast mercy. I know I have earned enough works to release pure abundance of Goodness. But my pride has suddenly appeared after entering fana and it keeps getting in my way. How do I put my pride to my feet and walk towards Allah?

          I keep getting the two choices. One to bow, one to turn away. That's all my Life is now, to choose one or the other. I choose an equal amount of each so I get stuck in the same situation. Obviously I need to step up and away from this situation but at the moment everything is quite fuzzy tempt. If I stay at my job, I gain one thing in the world (finances/organisation) and lose another thing in the world (time). If I stay at home I gain one thing in the world (dear hearted relationships), and lose another thing in the world (sanity). I have suspended my studies after realising that student loans do not help my case at all before Allah. Now next thing is next, some things have to go and some things have to begin. I need to tread very carefully. What do you advise?

          If you have read this, then thank you very much for your time and energy, I hope to hear from you soon hmm peace

          • brother in Islalm.

          Believe in Allah for all the good things, and believe in yourself for all the evil to befall you 4/79 is the root factor for all or any of our presenting illnesses and adversities. Throughout our lives we have these two things clubbed together of which our belief in ourselves and in us (the entire service of all human knowledge) rules the roost. So we suffer from chaos, turbulence, melancholy and anxiety more in the mind with sparse distribution of off and on calmness scattered with mixed feelings 94/5,6 all the time i.e., the state of schizophrenia. In this way every person is having a split mind one, the inside face and the other the outside face with mixed temperaments.

          Now the prayer is O The Expander, expand my heart 94/1; O the Enlightening, (94/3,4) lighten my heart by removing my burden of evil, I am shouldering.

          Patience cures the mind of its split personality and brings us back to sanity and saneness; thinking process is put in order and all the forces in the heavens and in the skies and everything in between becomes subservient to you for Allah is with you; for He is with the Patient. Now you have a job at hand; be patient and stick to the job until such time Allah delivers you by His Mercy to a higher position of His choice. Have patience in your present job; and continue your studies until Allah elevates you with His Wisdom. We do not know how but it is there since the word of Allah is there in your heart. Get along with all your worldly activities (39/35, 53) while trusting your God for the best outcome.

          Prayer O God, The Most Truthful, Trustworthy. O You who Reveals, O the Guide, guide me unto You with Sight Clear.

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            Use Furqaan To Learn Quran

            5.46 And We made Isa, son of Maryam to fall in with all the prophets and testify the Taurat that was before him; and We gave him Injeel; in it was Guidance and Light; and it stood testimony to the Taurat that was before him; and it is a guidance and portent for the pious.

            This verse stresses the decree upon every prophet from the first to the last that they shall follow the scripture sent down to the prophets before them and for the people before them; for example here, Isa, son of Maryam was asked to follow the Taurat sent down to the prophet Musa before him for the people before him, the people of Israel. Likewise Musa was asked to follow the scripture sent down upon the prophet before him for the people before him. To confirm the scripture before Musa, he was given the Taurat; and for Isa, son of Maryam Injeel was given to confirm the Taurat before him. Finally to the last Prophet Quran was revealed to confirm all the Scriptures from the first prophet to the prophet of Injeel. The distinguishing ability, the ?Furqaan? from Allah (33 , 34) has been bestowed upon every individual as an endowment by Allah Himself that shall have to be used as the criterion individually, as a comprehensive proof to extract God?s words from every scripture 482 or to beat up the attempts to remove the verses, and to preserve the verses removed or to strike away those sentences as verses injected by the evil men after each prophet?s life on this earth.

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              Sulaiman, What a King! What an Assembly!
              Sura 2 Verse 102

              They, in the Kingdom 1 of Sulaiman followed only the inducements of shaitans. Sulaiman had never been a rejecter of God; only the shaitans were the rejecters; and it is them who taught men the sorcery. And that which has been sent down with the two angels 2 Harut and Marut in Babyl ? The two said, ?Surely we are a test unto you and do not be 3 the rejecters of this warning? before they taught 4 that to any of them. Despite this, they learnt from them that could 5 cause division between husband and wife. Yet, without the permission of Allah none shall cause any evil upon anyone with this 6. Therefore they learnt that which should only cast curse upon them and avail them naught a good; and they know well that that which they have bought for a price would provide them no good for the future. What they bought losing out on their souls is outrageous evil, if only they knew.

              1. The Kingdom of Sulaiman was profusely studded with the powers of varying order from the skies to earth. The birds, the ants, the termites and many more and their languages were taught to Sulaiman and was in full control of them and had the wisdom to communicate with and command them individually; and the mountains bowed to him; and the iron would become soft and brass would melt by his will; such and many more with Sulaiman that Allah alone knows what they were. And Sulaiman?s assembly included the angels, the jinns, the living martyrs ? the ones who completed their lives in this world as His Signs; such of them are those who were raised as the truthful, as the believing, as the good doers, as the helpers in the cause of Allah. We shall not call them dead for they are all alive as His Signs, as witnesses, as helpers, and as proofs who were studded in the assembly of Sulaiman?s Kingdom. Sulaiman was using all his means at his command with his wisdom to make them know and believe Allah so that they may take to the luminous way wishfully. But he never used physical force (2.256) upon his people to make them comply with his will, for force is not the Right Path to Allah. That was perfect Islamic Rule by Sulaiman in his vast empire full of shaitan-induced disbelievers. Sulaiman?s Kingdom has been the only Islamic Nation the world could ever see, and for all time to come. This could have been mis-propagated as Sulaiman had been soft on disbelievers and had fallen to them. But Allah ascertains Sulaiman had never been a disbeliever. But the people were who followed only what shaitan had whispered to them.

              2. In his empire there was this city called Babyl infested with the people involving in sorcery and black magic. Since Sulaiman was never to use force, which is un islamic, he wanted to prove to them the Sign of Allah is truthful and should beat out the black magic. Sulaiman chose two angels from his assembly of malayika, namely Harut and Marut and were commanded by Sulaiman to descend on the people of Babyl. And they descended on them in perfect human forms. The Sign of Allah they possessed with them is the wisdom to unite the divided family. But the miscreants, the sorcerers and the disbelievers could use the same wisdom to divide the families too. There was a severe test for the disbelieving people in what the angels Harut and Marut brought with them.

              3. And when the sorcerers and the disbelieving people came to know the fast spreading names and the power of ?the two people? in the city who were merging and bring together the divided families, their minds calculated the misuse they are capable of doing, if only they possess the knowledge of Harut and Marut. The sorcerers and the miscreants approached the two and pleaded with them to teach them their powers.

              4. The angels knew them well and warned them of the evil and their doom if they ever misused it. Yet, they gave false promises to the angels Harut and Marut, and forcibly learnt it from them.

              5, 6. Finally what they learnt could cause them no good and they became the victims of their own vices. What an outrageous evil that they had learnt selling their souls!

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                5.83O God, Identify To Us Our Messenger!

                And when they listen to what is revealed to the messenger, their eyes will overflow with tears because they realized the Truth. They will say Our God, we believed. Inscribe us as among the witnesses. 5.83

                Here, this ayat speaks to all people today as to the way the people of faith and gratitude will be moved, by their hearts when they happen to listen to the Truth through their own messengers by the leave of Allah; each community and each nation of the world would identify its messengers chosen of them all by Allah; and with thankfulness they remember their God in their hearts dearer than ever, tears overflowing because of their God?s Mercy, Wisdom and the Light bestowed upon them.

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                  Salaam brother Fazl,

                  The Arabic 'rasuul' word literally means someone is a beacon towards someone and is not supposed to be taken fleshly/worldly, like the rest of what the Author inspired, as a concrete message. The Quran and what other prophets taught was a consciousness and that was the consciousness of Allah.

                  Nabi on the other hand means a person who is enlightened literally. He has insight into the realm and it only depends on one's own spiritual ascension and how near one becomes to the Sustainer. It is an earned condition and not assigned randomly.

                  The lesson towards people with understanding is that the world is not to be treated as a physical reality at all but as an affinity. We all and all matter belong to a grand consciousness called Allah and we should give up our separate (fleshly) rebellious egos and exist in Allah instead.

                  Salaam brother

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                    Salam
                    Brother,
                    Man of Faith.

                    Quran is not for fleshy living alone, but to attain the kingdom of the Arsh which in essence is the virtual life, by the leave of Allah. Therefore what I want from you now is the virtual meaning of Rasul and of Nabi. Let me listen to what you have to say beyond literacy, as you know I have a very special disregard for the literacy. And I want to hear a little more clearly about. "one's own spiritual ascension".

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                      Salaam brother Fazl,

                      Quran was composed by a person assimilated in Allah and its language is very forth telling even when used "literally" because the Arabic used carries a strictly abstract rather than concrete and the words should never be taken to refer to the "fleshly illusion".

                      I thought I conveyed myself clearly in the previous post, but I can make another effort. In all I am not your opponent but we have a similar understanding of the faith. I am not at all bothering with sectarian terminology or definition but rather follow the spiritual meaning implied by their author.

                      You need a distinction between abstract literacy and concrete literacy in what I say or what the words in Quran say. Quran works entirely on an abstract level and this is why a majority of people cannot understand it no matter how hard they try. Words in Arabic convey a spiritual message, particularly out of the intricate meaning of each letter which are as abstract/spiritual as they can be.

                      Example is asema "Be consciousness thereof be", obviously referring to the realm.

                      Since the Arabic language does not have an overwhelming amount of letters you can say it only works around with nearly 30 letters carrying a highly spiritual meaning to convey what they like to say. Yet a combination of those nearly 30 letters can have a root combination of 3 different variations forming a sea of meanings which can used in many contexts. And also some words only used 2 letters and even one letter as in the first letter of chapter 38 and 68.

                      Okay. Over to your real questions and not just randomly rambling wisdom. I will change into the spiritual meaning disregarding the temporary flesh.

                      Nabi - "One With Substance " the sequence of letters speak for themselves, it refers to a person who has joined the abstract realm of Allah. He or she is inside the narrow gate (allegorically speaking), and can "channel" knowledge and wisdom from this depository.

                      Rasuul "Concrete Consciousness To" worldly people regard it as messenger while people with insight would say beacon and who show the way to the realm/kingdom. There is no concrete message to have the word messenger to be any efficient term but each light is abstract. Jesus did never write any book but he fulfilled a vision of another 'nabi' (person within). Quran is the same, it is also a vision to be fulfilled. Quran teaches a mode of preaching and is a vision for someone to fulfill.

                      Salaam

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                        Salaam,

                        Spiritual ascension is when you have the important factor nearness to Allah which implies up to a condition when you are totally assimilated in the phenomenon Allah. The guidance, knowledge and wisdom of the real nature of existence will come as a result of that merging and surrender to the phenomenon Allah.

                        And to stand a chance of succeeding in the above nearness you will have to struggle for affinity and assimilation. An important measure is dealing with ego and worldliness and give that up for merging with Allah.

                        Salaam

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                          drfazl
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                          Brother Man of Faith,
                          Salam.

                          No. You are not at all my opponent; rather I do not consider any as an opponent for we are all for Allah. Brother, please exchange your views and opinions unmindful of me or how I take it; I only opt to take the best of the exchanges 39/18. As Allah says we either shall ponder all alone or look up to Allah; or discuss in twos with fear for Allah 34/46. Here are my views in submission

                          Quran is being inspired to every individual who is self-conscious and who values and fears His conscience, an inbuilt, original software in one's own mother tongue, in each one's soul, or in the Ruh of Allah. A hard copy of it is given in parts to various prophets and finally in its wholesomeness, the attested hard copy, the Quran is given to the last prophet, The Muhammad, by Allah. The prophet was inspired with and authorized for the Quran; and he, 'The Muhammad' certainly is not the author of Quran 29/48.

                          I need to know what you mean by the two words opposites in nature abstract literacy. And especially when your assertion is - "Quran works entirely on an abstract level". Up to this level I want to exchange our views, before we move further.

                          Nabi - "One With Substance " the sequence of letters speak for themselves, it refers to a person who has joined the abstract realm of Allah. He or she is inside the narrow gate (allegorically speaking), and can "channel" knowledge and wisdom from this depository.

                          Rasuul "Concrete Consciousness To" worldly people regard it as messenger while people with insight would say beacon and who show the way to the realm/kingdom. There is no concrete message to have the word messenger to be any efficient term but each light is abstract. Jesus did never write any book but he fulfilled a vision of another 'nabi' (person within). Quran is the same, it is also a vision to be fulfilled. Quran teaches a mode of preaching and is a vision for someone to fulfill.

                          With regard to Nabi and Rasul more clarification is needed, which I wish to take up later, as we proceed with the discussion.

                          Salaam
                          drfazl

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                            594Beware of your brute force

                            O you who believe! Allah will surely test you to a degree with what you hunt by your hands and spear@ that Allah makes known those who fear Him in secret. And those who transgress after this, they shall suffer a painful torment.

                            @ Hunting by hands and spear Hunting by hands indicate your ?physical? strength which urges you to subdue the weak people; and the spear denotes here the sharpness of your ?physical? brain by which you outsmart, overreach and trample the humble and honest ones. Soon Allah will make known their secret plan and transgression in open perchance they repent; but after this they continue in their dishonest devising Allah shall make them taste a painful and disgracing torment.

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                              Salaam brother Fazl,

                              I did not ignore your previous request but I waited for more time to brainstorm what exactly you like to read because my previous attempts were not sufficient as it appears. Still not sure if I can convey something sufficient on a topic this abstract but like you already know the visual "world" that we see is not as physical as it seems but is only just a materialized illusion (what looks and feels physical). When you like to discuss the true nature of Allah and the realm then you have to take into consideration that fundamentally the realm, including Allah, is entirely spiritual, abstract, so if we like to get to the bottom of it we have to think and reason such as that the visual "dimension" we live in does not really exist except that it works like a grand consciousness. But it does not end there, but there are also two options to choose in that ONE consciousness and that is being an ally of nothingness and an illusive mass which appears to be the shattered spirit of Shaitaan who seems to somehow be absorbed into this illusive reality and our fleshly apparitions are drawn towards indulgence in what our primitive body's desire for.

                              The best weapon against ourselves, to save ourselves, is to struggle hard to detach ourselves from those desires for they are only in vain and through various measures (mentioned in Quran) deepen our spirituality. When we think concretely we are at risk of losing our minds to the fleshly trap, so we must always find a way to think beyond the illusion. And that we can do through joining the consciousness of Allah which is definite although will not let you in unless you give up the flesh plus the consciousness of Allah will not be (abstractly) perceptible until one is separating the mind from the body, and through body means all the flesh combined including your own body.

                              The illusive body your have you are unfortunately stuck with, but as assimilation goes into the realm of Allah then the dependency will feel felt to be reduced and you will feel detached from Earthly mass and also the visual delusion so you can feel in a semi-trance state and to wander in the spiritual detachment. It is incredibly hard to describe in words because words always have their limitations, but considered your personal progress I suspect that you already know the feeling of this condition.

                              The optimal condition is when you feel you do not really exist on your own but you exist in the consciousness of Allah because you could absorb your ego in Allah and through Muslim's favorite term, so-called absolute submission. The difference is that Allah is never separate from yourself but it is you who should exist in the Oneness that is the only true existence, but if you worship Allah like something separate then you have missed the point. The best worship is to do the will of the Rabb and be realized in Allah. No neanderthal Pagan rituals required because that is too only talking but the one who does the will of the Rabb is the one who shall prevail.

                              Allah did never prescribe any ritualistic prayer but what was prescribed (or recommended) was to stay near the image of Allah, to maintain the connection (Nearness and Guidance), although salateh is the wrong word people are looking for because that word only refers to the individual's own ways, their path-taking, perception. But it is clear that the one treads that path should do it in assimilation with Allah, to keep affiliation rather than succumbing to the illusion of this world. The one who is wise and knowledgeable, gained by goodness, shall see that abstaining from their own bodily pleasures and the illusive world will boost this abstract absorption into the realm of Allah. Because man was made to tread in the image of Allah, but the flesh tempts the man and the instincts prevent him if he lets the body rule.

                              Now I did not exactly answer your questions about nabi and rasuul, but I will if the Rabb permits do it.

                              Nabi seems to be the perfect assimilation state which I mentioned above, but not many people reach that far in the distraction of this world. One is granted access to a depository of Knowledge and Wisdom and can perceive the world beyond its illusive borders. One may even see the force/spirit/energy which keeps the illusion intact. What the Rabb wills they can do because the Rabb will prevent too profound signs for the hypocrites must not realize about Allah and the wisdom is with the Rabb. If the Rabb willed everyone could obviously have realized very easily about Allah, but now that is not the point. But the Nabi is more than realized about Allah but also inside a greater consciousness beyond this illusion to mass.

                              The rasuul, abstractly, is like a beacon, showing the way with its light. The light is conveyed and not recited and it is through the exemplary assimilation the person is to be followed.

                              Not sure if you are contented with that brief elaboration. Can you please ask specific questions so I know where to pick up the thread?

                              Salaam

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                                The PlatterThe IgnorantThe PunishmentAnd just a plate of food

                                5.112
                                When the disbelievers said, ?O Isa, son of Maryam, can you make a platter descend down upon us from the sky?? He said, ?Fear Allah, if you are believers.?

                                The ignorant are these who cannot least understand that the plates upon which their foods are at this moment is from the greatest of all plates, the earth, created by Allah as only a platter.

                                5.113
                                They said ?We wish to satisfy our hearts and to know for sure that you spoke the Truth by eating thereof; and that we wish to be witnesses to it.?

                                Every day?s food we consume is from the earth?s surface which is the grandest, greatest and vastest of all platters in which the seeds gather, germinate and grow into food and also serves as all provisions for us; all created by Allah from nothingness; yet the ignorant ask for a small platter as food directly from the skies for them to see to believe that Allah creates all food from what they know not. Let us be aware of it that every plate of food from this entire platter of the whole surface of the world by the only Creator, to Whom we should show our gratefulness by distributing them all among the mankind; if we do so, each day shall be a festive day and a feasting day for the entire world population till the Last Day. Allah has thus created us as honored guests by making us born in this world; but shaitan introduced the money and the finance for the food and the feast from Allah became fasting and starving without even a plate of food for the households for days; this is a deterrent punishment for those who sell foods; and we see billions and billions of people in the world starving, begging and laying on the pavements - a sure punishment from Allah; today we shall awaken to this ?Truth come true? from Allah and fear Him; it is time we formed a government and vote leaders into power who have sense not to sell foods and their provisions; if we do not stop selling the foods and their provisions from this day, then listen to what Allah says in the following verse 5/115.

                                5.114
                                Isa, son of Maryam said, ?O our God Allah! Send down upon us a platter; it will be a grand sign from You and a food festival for us, and to our fathers and to our descendants; and fulfill our needs; and you are the best in fulfilling our provisions.?

                                Isa, son of Maryam is left with no option but turn to Allah for the sake of ignorant who are to be shown His Signs to their very material sight. Yet Allah warns before accepting Isa?s submission. But they did not distribute the platter of the world, the foods of Allah to the people; instead the governments and their chosen leaders are such that they finance the food, control the food from reaching the public and clandestinely plot against the people, to make the people as slaves. Even the so called Muslim nations are touching and grabbing the forbidden trees which is meant for the entire world. This is the reason why Allah has chosen to punish the muslim nations to begin with, with starving and disgrace. Soon Allah shall seize the world as a whole with even severer punishment, if the people of the world continues to choose shaitans as their leaders who touch the trees and grab the provisions of it.

                                5.115 Allah said, ?Surely I will send it down; but after this whoso of you become a denier, I will seize him with a torment that I had never seized anyone with in the world.?

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                                  Indeed the Rabb created food and all matter, but originally it was not intended that we would be part of the mass. Shaitaan beguiled us into indulgence.

                                  And the "marathon" fasts, so-called Ramadhan, are clear whispers of Shaitaan. Yet they feast in the evening for what they lost during the day. Such is not healthy.

                                  It is okay to eat, for we need to keep the flesh alive, but we should only eat as much as the body needs. And excess love of food and drink, without conscious consumption, is a danger to the succumbing to Shaitaan just as the invented long fasts.

                                  Yet Shitaan does not want us to die but love the material illusion and so we should suffer and then indulge in a lot food at a feast in the same evening. And this kind of eating is bad for the health too.

                                  Salaam

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                                    Brother MoF

                                    Is it a response to my post or are you sharing your opinion in general? I think it is your general opinion. I regard it.

                                    salam.

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                                      Salaam brother Fazl,

                                      It was a response and own input.

                                      Salaam

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                                        Salaam brother Fazl,

                                        Still not sure if I can convey something sufficient on a topic this abstract but like you already know the visual "world" that we see is not as physical as it seems but is only just a materialized illusion (what looks and feels physical). When you like to discuss the true nature of Allah and the realm then you have to take into consideration that fundamentally the realm, including Allah, is entirely spiritual, abstract, so if we like to get to the bottom of it we have to think and reason such as that the visual "dimension" we live in does not really exist except that it works like a grand consciousness.

                                        Allah is the wholesomeness of all and endless of His attributes, the qualities necessary for a boy or a girl, or a man or a women to be a Human; whereas a man is considered to be a physical one, a Human is considered to be considerable in nature and attributes of Allah by which standards billions of men and women elevate as individual Human beings. Allah is with every Human being; His attributes are the treasures of His gardens of this world and the world next - the unseen and the unknown nature of which treasure is known only to the Creator, the Knowing.

                                        But it does not end there, but there are also two options to choose in that ONE consciousness and that is being an ally of nothingness and an illusive mass which appears to be the shattered spirit of Shaitaan who seems to somehow be absorbed into this illusive reality and our fleshly apparitions are drawn towards indulgence in what our primitive body's desire for.

                                        Conscience i.e., the Scriptural encryption in a Human's soul, is all inclusive God-Endowed Potential with Exclusive Power against the spirited shaitan; the more we ponder in our God's Qualities, the more we imbibe the same in us as our unseen natural wisdom and power, by the leave of Allah. Every material visible, and every force invisible will be under our command from heavens to earth and everything in between by the leave of Allah. We will be able to detach ourselves from the business, laboriousness and hardship of the man invented material way of living to easy, cozy and rosy life 29/2, by Allah's leave.

                                        The best weapon against ourselves, to save ourselves, is to struggle hard to detach ourselves from those desires for they are only in vain and through various measures (mentioned in Quran) deepen our spirituality. When we think concretely we are at risk of losing our minds to the fleshly trap, so we must always find a way to think beyond the illusion. And that we can do through joining the consciousness of Allah which is definite although will not let you in unless you give up the flesh plus the consciousness of Allah will not be (abstractly) perceptible until one is separating the mind from the body, and through body means all the flesh combined including your own body

                                        Revive the Conscience, by reminiscing all the glad-tidings of the past and the present as only from Allah, which is possible only by shedding the pride and humbling before the Almighty and the Unknown Highness. Only at this point the fleshly parts of us and of the entire universe fall in submission to the Power of Mind, the Commander in abstractness. The fleshly parts will be absorbed into the Soul, the Ruh of Allah in us. This is living by soul and flesh together, flesh submitting to the soul. In this way the flesh is as good as non-existing.

                                        The illusive body your have you are unfortunately stuck with, but as assimilation goes into the realm of Allah then the dependency will feel felt to be reduced and you will feel detached from Earthly mass and also the visual delusion so you can feel in a semi-trance state and to wander in the spiritual detachment. It is incredibly hard to describe in words because words always have their limitations, but considered your personal progress I suspect that you already know the feeling of this condition.

                                        Quran is Conscience - Allah's Command, Edict and Vivid Expression in man's poor, literal, material, smattering arabic - in order that it is easy to get into pondering and get the better expression and perception of it. Allah has chosen arabic because it is the most docile of all scriptural languages. The more superfluous a language is considered by a population, they will be too arrogant and hardcore to be flexible to attain higher perceptive quality. They will never rise above their literacy.

                                        The optimal condition is when you feel you do not really exist on your own but you exist in the consciousness of Allah because you could absorb your ego in Allah and through Muslim's favorite term, so-called absolute submission. The difference is that Allah is never separate from yourself but it is you who should exist in the Oneness that is the only true existence, but if you worship Allah like something separate then you have missed the point. The best worship is to do the will of the Rabb and be realized in Allah. No neanderthal Pagan rituals required because that is too only talking but the one who does the will of the Rabb is the one who shall prevail.

                                        Allah did never prescribe any ritualistic prayer but what was prescribed (or recommended) was to stay near the image of Allah, to maintain the connection (Nearness and Guidance), although salateh is the wrong word people are looking for because that word only refers to the individual's own ways, their path-taking, perception. But it is clear that the one treads that path should do it in assimilation with Allah, to keep affiliation rather than succumbing to the illusion of this world. The one who is wise and knowledgeable, gained by goodness, shall see that abstaining from their own bodily pleasures and the illusive world will boost this abstract absorption into the realm of Allah. Because man was made to tread in the image of Allah, but the flesh tempts the man and the instincts prevent him if he lets the body rule.

                                        Now I did not exactly answer your questions about nabi and rasuul, but I will if the Rabb permits do it.

                                        Nabi seems to be the perfect assimilation state which I mentioned above, but not many people reach that far in the distraction of this world. One is granted access to a depository of Knowledge and Wisdom and can perceive the world beyond its illusive borders. One may even see the force/spirit/energy which keeps the illusion intact. What the Rabb wills they can do because the Rabb will prevent too profound signs for the hypocrites must not realize about Allah and the wisdom is with the Rabb. If the Rabb willed everyone could obviously have realized very easily about Allah, but now that is not the point. But the Nabi is more than realized about Allah but also inside a greater consciousness beyond this illusion to mass.

                                        The rasuul, abstractly, is like a beacon, showing the way with its light. The light is conveyed and not recited and it is through the exemplary assimilation the person is to be followed.

                                        Not sure if you are contented with that brief elaboration. Can you please ask specific questions so I know where to pick up the thread?

                                        Salaam

                                        My addition and input to this comes later on.

                                        Salam
                                        Brother MoF.

                                        drfazl

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                                          Thanks brother Fazl,

                                          We basically think alike with different words and minor other differences. Blessed be all in Allah (for those who choose that path).

                                          Salaam

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