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If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword

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    drfazl
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    Revelation Of Quran - Testifies What Is In The Soul Of Man
    Prophets Bring Quran As Witness To The
    Soul Of Man 6.18

    Say "Which is of most weight in testimony? And say Allah is witness between you and me; this Quran is bestowed upon me through wahi - inspiration thereby to warn you and those who were bestowed with it@. Do you have proof there are deities besides Allah? I bear no witness to it; verily He is the only God; and I am quit of that you associate.?

    @ 13.43 and 6.18 stresses the Truth that the Quran is a Spacial Expression of Creation to those who reflect upon their very presence and existence in the vastness of space. The prophets are chosen to explain to them and the others clearly in communicable language, about the Truth in their souls. Before Quran is physically expressed time and again through the chosen Prophets and Messengers, it is inscribed in each one?s soul at birth. There are people who live by it; there are people who can remember when they are reminded of it - such are the witness to Quran; and there are people who have rejected the Quran, thereby their very souls forever, living defiantly all through their lives.

    Quran is clear explanation, verification by way of its revelation in the life of this physical world as you live as mortals; and a revelation helping you to ascend to the throne of the metaphysical world as immortals. Quran is not for literal reading incorporating man invented lexica and morphemes. Quran is the communicable language between the Soul and the mind; and not for linking the clay-pot brain to the material world.

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      Dear Dr Fazl,

      I give here the highlights for me from your post #438 in this thread.

      Allah is the wholesomeness of all and endless of His attributes, the qualities necessary for a boy or a girl, or a man or a women to be a Human;

      Allah is with every Human being; His attributes are the treasures of His gardens of this world and the world next

      Conscience i.e., the Scriptural encryption in a Human's soul, is all inclusive God-Endowed Potential with Exclusive Power against the spirited shaitan;

      the more we ponder in our God's Qualities, the more we imbibe the same in us as our unseen natural wisdom and power, by the leave of Allah.

      The fleshly parts will be absorbed into the Soul, the Ruh of Allah in us.

      Quran is Conscience - Allah's Command, Edict and Vivid Expression..

      Beautiful!! It gives me a feel close to my heart.
      I accept. I submit.

      Beyond doubts, questions, word wars,
      Beyond words to feel.
      Beyond facial expression to spacial expression.
      Beyond body to mind.
      Beyond earth to seven skies.
      Beyond visible to the unseen.
      Beyond explained to inexplicable - known only to the Creator.

      My prayer
      O the Complete! O the Wholesome!
      Help me to be Human. I handover the responsibility to you.
      All glory be unto you.

      Gita

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        The fleshly part you will be detached from. It is nothing permanent unless you fail the purpose.

        Salaam

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          Normally people have and ask these questions

          1. What is Faith healing?

          2. How can any one cure another of his diseases if it is from God as a test or as a punishment?

          First let me tell you the very important fact, 'I do not treat a patient, but God does cure one when we turn to Him soulfully without setting up partners or associating things with Him viz. the doctors, the men and their knowledge.' If you are a believer in God you also believe that He is almighty and there is nothing He cannot do. Whenever we fall ill He is the One and the first to give us the glad news, "You shall be ok!" Thus He proposes to us in the very first instance as a Command as well as a Blessing enlivening up our heart; and our hearts respond reverberating with a dearly feeling, overwhelmingly accepting and submitting to His Command, 'Yes, I should be ok!'

          In other words our hearts are echoing the Command of God with a blessed and power generated feeling of belief, 'I shall be ok!' Thus to a believer who believes in God's words - for him the creative power of God begins from within his heart as life rejuvenating force. As this force builds up in strength with the belief, the worry regarding the disease wears out 'By the Hour', and we tend to forget very often that we have an illness - this state of mind indicates the disease force in our system has started weakening; and the life force is growing stronger as long as your belief and patience stands the test of time. The rejuvenated life force starts pervading the circulating life energy driving away the disease force from our system. A believer thus shall maintain belief and patience as long as it takes to kill the disease force for good.

          So you should have understood by this time what I do. I strengthen your belief with the following questions. Try to understand the questions and answer them carefully. You should verify your own answers to the questions and see if your answers tally with my answers. Let us go to my questions and your answers

          Q Do you believe in God?

          A Yes.

          Q Do you believe in that He has power over every thing?

          A Yes.

          Q Do you understand any good feeling in your heart is the blessing, a glad tiding and promise from God?

          A Yes.

          Q Do you understand that when you earn any evil, it is God's words "You shall be ok," that soothes your heart?

          A Yes.

          Q Are you sure without His allowance there is no blessing upon or God's creative force in you; and nothing moves in the good direction?

          A Yes.

          Q Is it right if at all we should survive, our livelihood shall have to come only from God?

          A Yes.

          At this point we come to know our duty is to be aware and well receive the revelation from God as He sends down His blessings upon our hearts. For example, whenever we are ill or seized with some misfortune, the very first words of blessing from Him is Get rid of it! If only we lower our ears to it,- this is not only a blessing, but also a command from the Almighty. Believe and surrender to His Will; His Will be done! It is He who will deliver you from all your adversities; thenceforth the lives of such believers will be blossoming without major hitch or hinderance. This is God's creative power in the heart of a believer, reassuring and enlivening. It is worth living when we abide by such commanding life force. This is believing in God. This is living by the leave of God! God cannot be seen; God cannot be heard; Godliness has to be felt in the fullest measure as His blessings descend down upon our hearts - with a sense of absolute surrender, free from suspicion caused by the worthless and objectionable human knowledge, say, the hopeless medical knowledge. When we use our brain abreast of God's wisdom embedded in one's heart as His Will, the worst of all evil befalls us; we tend to brush aside the wisdom of Allah, and fall a prey to the 'possessed-knowledge'.

          Suppose a medical knowledge says you are suffering from third degree cancer and you will die in 3 months, - and if we believe in any such nasty utterances of these inglorious 'specialists' - we fall from the Grace and Mercy of God. Let us be mindful now which words to believe those that which is revealed to your heart by His Grace or the fraudulent words of the ignominious doctors upon whom you confer the specialist status when in truth they are ignorant to the core? If you consider the doctors are specialists who then is God to you? This means He is nothing! Thus God is despised, disregarded, ignored as a mean thing! Hence the ignorance shall be ruling over us as we brush aside His mercy and forgiveness while holding our knowledge with pride and arrogance high above the wisdom of God.

          Whereas the knowledge has to develop for all time to come until the end of the world and thus it is always ignorant, the wisdom of God is absolute. Whatever is revealed is knowledge; and what is yet to be revealed is of the wisdom. In other words the knowledge we possess is the ignorance; and what we need to know is the truth. Knowledge is what is seen of things; while the truth is the invisible wisdom from which the living comes into being. Thus the knowledge is an outdated self destructible thing but the wisdom is the truthful unseen life force that creates and originates. So which of these do we believe in The unseen invisible wisdom of God? Or we believe only in the visible self-destructible human knowledge that shall destroy us too in the end? Believing in the Wisdom is believing in God; and believing in knowledge is believing in Satan. Only one of these two can exist in your heart either belief or disbelief; liveliness or self destruction.

          God is boundless and free from any boundary we make for Him; so you cannot shape him within a boundary line either imaginatively or unimaginatively; He is finitely infinite that you cannot define and bound Him within the boundary of the knowledge of human beings. It is important to know at this juncture that God is a feeling of blessing; and not a thing. Thus your heart is the sanctum sanctorum that conceives the godliness as blessings. In your case you have conceived God's blessings such as "You shall be free from your diseases!" Now your belief in God alone makes the conceived grace to develop into visible creation; and so keep up your belief until the maturity is complete and reaches full term; never get disheartened at any point of time and fall from your belief to disbelief, and so neither shall you abort what you have conceived of God or can you afford to caesarian deliver it through the cutting edge of the human material knowledge lest you should say God has forsaken you!

          From this moment, your heart alone is your temple; the blessing you have conceived in your heart is the sanctum sanctorum; and you have to keep the conceived blessing sanctified - without the disbelief ever touching it i.e., without encountering it with the human knowledge, until the blessing reaches its full term and is delivered to you in the pristine pure manner and form. This is how you are delivered from your diseases and adversities.

          This is my way to Allah. There is no God in shape or form but there is the Godliness i.e. the feeling of Blessings from God in each of us. If you understand that you should have belief in God in the manner I have clarified above; and if you shall be steadfast in the belief until conception period of His Blessings reaches full term; and that you shall not slacken in your belief during its course, then my prayer shall be of definite support to the belief you have in what your God has sent down upon you - until the word of God is delivered to you and you become alright. So I do make my point clear that I am not curing any of his diseases; but strengthen his belief in Godliness so that he cures all by himself by His Mercy, with a bit of steady and prayerful support from me. We will never know how long it will take before you are cured; for the Time of Term is with God. For a believer he shall never be hasty. They shall keep in contact with me whenever they need support to their belief. Once a week contact for the prayerful support is good enough until they gain their own faith by the leave of Allah.

          salam
          drfazl

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            Ibrahim, His Descendants, The Indian Subcontinat

            6.75 And We showed Ibrahim the ruling of the skies and the earth so that He is certain
            6.76 Thus when the night covered over him, he saw a star; he said, ?This is my God!? But when it set, he said ?I do not like that sets.?
            6.77 And when he saw the moon rising, he said ?This is my God!? Then when it set, he said ?If my God does not show me I will be of the misguided!?
            6.78 And then when he saw the sun rising, he said ?This is my God; this is the biggest!? And when it too set, he said ?O my people, I have rejected all that you associate to God.

            From 6.75 to 6.78 Allah reveals how He was teaching and guiding His servant Ibrahim slowly over a period, to make him gain His wisdom above the earthy knowledge of the people of his community who were then as different tribes worshiping the Stars, the Moon and the Sun as their Gods. Yet by Allah, Ibrahim was applying his personal scrutiny, the criterion to determine his ?belief-course? and passed through all the stages one after another, such as the Star, the Moon and the Sun successfully that he ultimately after years of time discerned for good that none created shall be gods but the One Creator of all that is in the heavens and in the earth, The God. Thus Allah teaches Ibrahim about Himself, Allah. Be all praise to Allah, the God of all the worlds.

            Like the yesteryears this day, we find the Hindu society as belonging to the descendants of Ibrahim?s religion such as idolatry, the various deities; worshiping the Stars, the Moon and the Sun and Everything on the earth and in the skies as their Gods. And like Ibrahim they constantly are shifting between one belief to another and finally there are innumerable people who take to Quran for the guidance, believing in Allah. The true and real descendants of Ibrahim are presently here in the Indian sub-continent.

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              Yes Dr Fazl,

              then again this is important and beautiful to me.

              Quran 680
              And his people argued with him. He said, "Do you argue with me concerning Allah while He has guided me? And I fear not what you associate with Him unless my Lord should will something. My Lord encompasses all things in knowledge; then will you not remember?"

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                drfazl
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                Very true, very true br, amin.
                What is not important when you ascertain upon a certain recitation from Quran?

                salam

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                  Why has Allah created heaven and the earth while He knows well who we are?

                  6.107 Had Allah willed they would not have called upon other than Him; We have not assigned you as protector over them; neither are you a guardian over them.

                  People generally have this question why has Allah created heaven and hell? And why has He created the good and the bad? And why did He give us the mind to choose? For all these questions the above verse is the clear answer for those who receive the discerning from Allah. To everyone if this ?one way? question is asked whether you want a much better and a more beautiful life or a heavenly life tomorrow, they would say Yes. On the other hand if they are asked if you want a much worse and more frustrating life tomorrow, they would say No. Again, when they are given to choose between hell and heaven, they would choose the heaven in a flash; and on the same lines their choice would go between the good and the bad. It is the ?bestowed-predisposition? by which Allah has set the mind that constantly pushes a man to the better and more beautiful life by the moment. Allah the creator of our lives always reminds us of this future which He has in store for us; and all that Allah wants us is to believe His words if we are truthful in our belief in Him. But we choose to disbelieve it; and with all our consciousness against The Conscience, we follow our despicably disgusting standards and means of our ?lifeless knowledge? to shape up our death ward and deadly future by our own hands, instead of the surrendering by will to the promised heavenly life, by Allah, the Creator - thus we, with our heights of pride, we claim that the future is in our hands, disclaiming and denouncing God, the Creator, the Enlivening. It is outright rejection of Allah while we know well; and hell is the abode of such people; Allah has left them to their doom without a protector, without a helper and without a guide - He has removed the discerning ability, the Furqaan from their Ruh; now their only question all their lives will be is, ?why has Allah created the heavens and the hell while He knows well we, the highest of creations, we, the humans will opt only for the hell rejecting against Allah?s Wish and Command that we should strive for the heaven, all our lives?? Such people form the majority population; if we are to sit with them discussing or arguing over this, then we will be of them 4/140.

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                    drfazl
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                    Both You Muslims and Non Muslims!You Only Insult ME, ALLAH 6108

                    And insult not the God@ they call upon other than Allah lest they will insult Allah in enmity without a thought - thus We have made such deeds fair-seeming to every community; then their return is unto their God; then He will inform them of what they used to do.

                    @ All people believe in the Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful, All Knowing - One Almighty Creator; such Attributes, and Many and Countless Attributes are there as His Names; If all Names are to be held altogether, and to be revered, The One Word is, ?Allah? - All Glory Be Unto Him. The Names of Allah are the individual attributes of who is termed as the ?Rubb? in Arabic or termed as ?The God? in the general tongue; the attributes of Allah, the Rubb is set as the Conscience in every soul; Rubb is always plural denoting all the endless names or the attributes of Allah which means the One God of all Rubb and there is No Rubb other than the Only Allah.

                    People in general fall into two categories one section believes in Allah without perceiving or knowing their Rubb i.e., Allah?s Attributes, the God?s; in other words they merely chant the word, ?Allah? without their conscience working for them; this means, they are idol worshiping the ?sound? of the word, Allah. So this section of the people cannot hear, though they have ears; cannot see though they have eyes; and cannot understand though they have the hearts, to follow the Words of Allah His Glad-tiding or His Warning! This section forms the Muslims at large. And there is this another section they believe in (the Names or the gods or the Rubb), a few or more of the Attributes of Allah, The One God - but have failed to bring all the ?Goodly-Attributes? together to bring into ?The Oneness? i.e., ?The invisible feel of Allah?. So they materially visualised the truthful attributes, made each of them into symbolic idols and conjured up multiple ?gods-beliefs? to each and every one of the endless Rubb, the Names of ?The One God?, thus felling themselves to Polytheism. They are failing to take the note attributes and qualities have no form or shape but it is ?The Feel? from their Conscience which is ?The Soul? of every human. When the idols are removed form their minds and absorb them all into the soul as feel, they are with the real God, Allah.

                    Conversely, the so called monotheistic muslims do not practice the attributes(the Names, or the gods, or the Rubb) of Allah in their daily life; neither do they value nor care for those attributes, the Rubb. Allah has many Names and call on Him by His Attributes, beautiful(7/180). For example, O Rubb, the Most Forgiving; O Rubb, The Most Gracious; O Rubb, the Most Merciful; O Rubb, the Most High; O Rubb, the Most Wise and so on. We are to call upon our Rubb thus, remembering His Name concerning to the specific glad or dire situation and we are not to associate partners to Him by calling upon the human being either to praise them or to seek for help and protection form them. The difference between the muslims or the non muslims is not much at all; both are associators except for their rebelliously steadfast points of views. Here is just one among the numerous example to show how Allah addresses Himself with One of His Rubb, Ar Rahman 21.42 Say "Who can keep you safe by night and by day from (the Wrath of) (Allah) Most Gracious?" Yet they turn away from the mention of their Rubb.? Allah calls Him not as Allah, in this context but as the Most Gracious, The Rubb. 22.77 ?O ye who believe! humble and surrender yourselves, and call upon your Rubb, God - and do good, that haply ye may prosper.? Here as believers in The Rubb, we call Him as to the context O The Most Wise, The Most High. Allah says, call Him by His Beautiful Names and leave them alone who are wrongfully neglectful.

                    Unfortunately we do not remember our Rubb, but simply call Allah without remembering His Names as our Rubb; In this way muslims in general neither worship Allah; nor do they revere their Rubb. And coming to the non muslims they have made their Rubb in to idols and fall a prey to their inventions. Muslims and non Muslims are not on different platforms but on one and the same.

                    In 6.108 Allah puts both these groups together as one and the same and says to them both do not insult others? Gods, for they are the names of Me, One Allah; they are idol worshiping the one or the other of the Names of Allah, the Rubb; if you do so, without a thought they would insult Allah as a whole, which means they inadvertently insult every name of Allah, calling evil names. Allah is Merciful upon both you parties; if you still insult their gods, their rubb, then know that you insult one or the other Names of Allah and for this I will make you ignorant of what you do; I have allowed this evil work fair seeming to all communities and will set you upon each other to meet your own catastrophe.

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                      Zulf
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                      bravo

                      Also, it seems that many so called atheists are actually, in their atheism, rejecting and refusing the worship of sounds and idols, and rightly so. Unfortunately, many then conclude that there is no divine dimension. I suspect that those who worship sounds or idols actually confuse and distract people from looking for the reality below the radar. People are confused by the madness and hypocrisy of the sound and idol worshipers, and are as a result too quick to, erroneously, dismiss all things divine. The baby is out with the bathwater.

                      Peace

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                        Salaam,

                        I would call those who are "atheists" (dislike the term) both succumbed to the world, and listened and become deluded by available no "higher power" arguments. Few actually think for themselves but follow the stream and their social environment will affect them.

                        Salaam

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                          In some aspects, atheists and religious people are sort of the same... one is deluded by "science" and one is deluded by religion. Science is not supposed to judge about things beyond its scope. Thermometers are not supposed to judge about the quality or poetry. Using science to disprove Divine Allness is like using the pH-level of an orange to prevent corruption in afflicted nations.

                          Science cannot be used to feel the aspects of Allah. Religion can however be used for the shutting of doors, locking of minds and blinding of vision. The religion of science and the religion of religion are two very stagnant and non-living things.

                          Sensing, experiencing and acting is what we should do. In this way, there is a possibility to grow and learn to see. Just look at the indoor plant in the pot in your window. It knows in what direction to turn. There is no doubt. It not only knows how to face the sun rays, but knowing and doing is the same. Knowing and doing is part of its being and expression. We humans though, refuse to turn to the Source, out of madness. We have made it so complicated for ourselves, when it could be the simplest thing in the world, the most natural thing. Reality is too simple for us to grasp easily.

                          Most people think they see, while they are blind. Perhaps me too. It's a struggle. The greatest of them all.

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                            Salaam Zulf,

                            Regarding what you said about not being able to feel Allah through science. I think I have to disagree a little with you there. Science has helped me understand a lot on how the realm works. And then I speak of the dynamic functionality of the world. For example, quantum physics was helpful in understanding that the world is actually merely energy (or what to refer to it as). If you make an atom disintegrate (fission) or make a nuclei through fusion, what you gain is an energy discharge. This is how fission/fusion reactors work including the theorized cold-fusion reactor. Although I have heard of a new kind of engine which exhaust would be water (h2o) through a fusion of oxygen and hydrogen. The fusion would create a power surge.

                            Anyway, what is most interesting is the fact that fission or fusion would cause a discharge of energy. It shows the actual integrity of the atoms because if manipulated and thus disintegrated or joined they would show their charge. It is crazy such a power these phenomena cause.

                            That is why I would say science can make one believe in GOD. I became with faith through my own contemplation of the exisence rather than religious doctrines and then science played a big role in making me realize the fact there is a "higher power". Sadly people claim that you cannot combine faith and science, but I say you can. Science simply reveals the nature of GOD for the perceptive. I have never been very faithful to religious doctrines and their interpretations of texts and I sense now it has been rewarding. Being sceptical about every single bit of Quranic Arabic knowledge and interpretation was a clear advantage.

                            Sorry drfazl for polluting your thread with jinn knowledge. I would like nothing rather than being dissolved from the flesh. It is the signs of Allah that are intriguing.

                            Salaam

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                              Salam zulf, MoF

                              For us it is struggle, but to Allah it is easy; let us call upon our Rubb O The Most Easy, there is none to show us the path of Easiness save Thee. When we turn away from Allah,The Most Easy, there are Business everywhere in the process of which we become only busybodies invoking and worshiping all shaitans ante to every Name of Allah, our Rubb.

                              O Allah, The Most Easy, guide us in the Path of Easiness; not business of the misguided rotten people of the world.

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                                Salam,

                                No Problem Man of Faith; there are good Muslim jinns who also belong to us and we good Muslims belong to them. Salam to all of them. Whichever direction or discipline or the science you turn to, there is the Sign of Allah 2/115; some has to go through a struggle to finally find the easy path; some get into the easy path straight away; there is not one direction but countless. To cite, Atheism is the best direction to reach the path of God.

                                There is no pollution here, MoF; not at all.

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                                  The strength with the scientific method is that it is evidence based. This is how you deduct reality. Unfortunately, people use science to promote their own opinions. They extrapolate and say things that science actually doesn't say.

                                  Science and Divinity are not in disagreement with each other. However, Religion and science may very much be in disagreement with each other, because Religion can be anything you want. Religion and Divinity may also be in disagreement with each other. Religion is often fables.

                                  Science never negates Divinity. Some people may be convinced by science about Divinity, while others will never be convinced, by anything.

                                  Peace

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                                    Scientific evidence only satisfies either one or the other of the five special organs such as eyes, nose, ears, mouth and skin of man but cannot provide its evidence even to all of them let alone if the scientific evidence pleases the live senses of each of those organs; Divinity lies in the Signs of Allah as it creates life and produces liveliness. On the same lines science is akin to the 'material-religion' of ritual worshiping gymnastics without life and liveliness and thus both science and religions are deadly. The Signs create righteousness in you and makes you wholesomely a sensible man.

                                    The important difference between "Sign of Allah" and the 'science of man' is that one has life in it e.g all the creations of God; whereas man's invention is lifeless and are already decomposed decays even at its conceptual stages. Sign is total and wholesome, while the science has to evolve through the millenniums and 'zillenniums' yet, they cannot catch up with the life source. They are dead and false. Science never negates divinity for it accepts and has to accept in the end its worthlessness before the creative strength of the Signs of Allah.

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                                      Cannot hunt in the land But lawful to hunt in the sea
                                      5.96

                                      It is made lawful to you to hunt in the sea that which is useful to you and the voyagers; and to eat thereof. But it is unlawful to you to hunt on the land at times when you seek purity to your soul; so fear Allah; and unto Him you will be gathered.

                                      What is the difference between hunting in the sea and hunting in the land; hunting in the sea is allowed and lawful because you and the voyagers on the ship are on a journey to the distant land far away from your homes; your voyager ship shall have rooms for storage of the foods only to contain in just amounts; and the sea is ninety percent more enormous than land and its depth and vastness is incalculable; Allah has graced the sea with such bounties that however much you hunt in it, you cannot pump the sea dry but retire yourself, tired. It is allowed for you to hunt in the sea but unlawful it is to hunt on the land which produces the foods fairly, and justly, and freshly and seasonally - and in bountiful measures for all the people in the world by the command of Allah; one cannot plunder in the land and deprive the rest of the people of their righteous bounties of the land through hunting and squandering - especially when you seek purity to your soul from Allah, in His path.

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                                        Follow Not Mullahs and MoulvisLest we become pagans

                                        7.3 Follow that which is revealed to you from your God; and do not follow any guide@ other than He; very little do you reflect.

                                        @ When it comes to following God and His Book, follow only that which is very clear to your conscience as Revelation of the Truth while in contemplation and introspection; this is the Guidance from the God, direct. This is God?s Way - for only God can teach you His Way; if any one associates allies to God and follows other than Him, they are the polytheists and pagans. Unfortunately very little understand this Guidance while most of them follow their priesthood and their forefathers, thus straying away from their God?s path.

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                                          On the same lines science is akin to the 'material-religion' of ritual worshiping gymnastics without life and liveliness and thus both science and religions are deadly.

                                          Quite on the contrary... neither science, not religion is deadly.

                                          Science provides a methodical approach to study and analyze what we can observe; while religion provides a methodical approach to keep us reminded to have faith in the unobservable. They are complementary to each other. Together they give us the ability to explore the heavens while keeping our feet firmly on the ground.

                                          Deadly is our greed, envy, lust and pride... which provoke us to make the science and religion an excuse to be unfaithful to our God gifted senses of right and wrong.

                                          May Allah guide us all to the straight route.

                                          Regards,
                                          Arman

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