If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword
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Quite on the contrary... neither science, not religion is deadly.... our God gifted senses of right and wrong.
Salam Arman,
If only we use the God gifted sense of appreciation of the right and the wrong, we can definitely differentiate and distinguish between the Signs of Allah and the science of man.
drfazl
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You can follow a person with spiritual insight. It is just that you must choose this person wisely
If he asks you to follow a religion, strange Pagan practices and/or something materialistic it is not the right inspirational source.
I mean, drfazl deems that his view of Quran and the ALLAH phenomenon to be right and tells people to follow him. He would contradict himself if he says no guide can be followed since he tries to guide people into what they should do. Avoid Modern Medicine etc.
But you have to consider very carefully what it is you follow.
Salaam
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I have not been preaching anyone; nor have I been airing out my point of opinion from any remote understanding but that I am citing example of my own how believing in the Signs of Allah above anything else makes one strengthen his insight and broaden his scope to live his moments beyond all science of man. I am stressing and ascertaining the Truth from my living that the Signs of Allah and the Guidance of the Quran is True and there is no human efforts to match it at any given point of time. Again, I am not preaching anyone here for preaching is that which one speaks out as good things when he himself cannot practice it.
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Salaam,
I think your idea of preaching is a bit preconceived. You can teach and also practice what you say even if it happens to be a rare phenomenon among sectarians. Spiritual teachers such as (Isa) did so. Nothing wrong in being a spiritual guide, if you are up to the task and do not merely speak out of own selfishness. One has to be one with ALLAH to do it successfully which means to do as you teach.
You inform people relatively often on this forum and in ways you are trying to teach people, so you do it as well. It is a kind of preacher.
People who are here on this forum and voice their opinions regarding various matters are directly or indirectly preaching, even if it is not their intention. Just airing your opinion in a clearly opinionated way shows preaching. If you are here, promote an idea and seek to make people accept the proposal, then you are indeed preaching.
The question is instead who is a good vs. bad preacher, i.e. voices information, or disinformation even though it might be unintentionally.
Salaam
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Salam,
I believe in Allah alone even to guide the people for, Allah guides whom He is pleased with; those who believe in all humility there is always one above every 'knower' come under the grace and guidance of Allah (12/76 but over every possessor of knowledge is one knowing). Stand as an inspiration by your living, by the leave of Allah and then speak of what you do and of your own example is what Quran prescribes. Quran does not speak about preaching but doing by Allah's leave. From the perspective of Quran I believe in Prophethood and Messengership - but not in priesthood. I will not banish myself by being a preacher.
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Beware of the Chosen People for the Book
7.52 Surely We gave them the Book@; We have revealed it with insightful discernment - a guidance and grace for those who believe.
@ We gave ?them the Book? - who are ?them? here refers to is those 7/48,49 who were given the Book as guidance and grace from Allah and who nevertheless did find themselves in hell. The Book is meant to have their wisdom strengthened through the insight, discernment and revelation therein. But they took the verses of the Book for jest 4/140 and for vain arguments 6/68, treating its verses with their false, prideful worldly knowledge, mostly tending toward the freakish, delusive atmosphere. Such is the plight of certain of the chosen people 7/169; 42/14 whom Allah has identified in Quran. Today such people swarming around us are the self-styled religious scholars, the clergies, the spurious leaders of various religious doctrines. They give out ?fatwas? in this world and for the next world, denying and belying the Truth that to Allah belongs the Last Day and to Him is the Hour of judgment.
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Drfazl,
Then you "guide in (affinity of) ALLAH".
Salaam
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Salam
Man of FaithAllah is pleased with those who turn only to Him for anything and everything, finding Him alone so close to Him - so closely that Allah is nearer than his life itself.
Brother, I think I am trying to answer you; I do not know what you have in mind when you put that question to me; if my answer is incorrect then for my better understanding the question may be rephrased.
drfazl
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Prophet Messenger He is not a lettered-personality like commonplace
7.157 Those who follow the Enlightened@ prophet messenger of Us, will find description of him in their Taurat and Injeel he will enjoin upon them all good deeds and forbid them from evil works; and he will make lawful all good foods; and prevent them the evil foods; and he will lessen their heaviest burdens and remove their slavishness; so whoever believes in him, and dignifies him, and helps him and follows the enlightenment bestowed with him will alone be the victors.
@ The Prophet in the above verse is described as not a believer in the litters of the man invented ?lettered-knowledge?, but a believer in and follower of the Wisdom of Allah; and Allah has granted him what he pursued and thus describes His Prophet-messenger as unlettered but Enlightened.
7.158 Say, ?O mankind, verily I am the messenger to you all from Allah; unto Him belongs the kingdom of the skies and the earth; and there is no God but He; He brings forth life and He causes death - and therefore believe in the Enlightened prophet messenger; and he too believes in Allah and in His Signs; and follow him alone that you may be guided.?
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Peace,
I don't know why you translate l-nabiya l-umiya as the enlightened prophet. In my understanding 'ummy' has no meaning of illiteracy or enlightenment at all.
Crossheck with 320, 622, 278-79
I think those verses will point out to you it can't be translated as enlightened nor illiterate. If it's not obvious to you I will elaborate on the contradiction.
My understanding of 'ummy' is gentile.
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Root likely used; Alif-Meem-Waw, as per ancient lexicon. The root can refer to a female because the word actually means descriptively "be thereof" as indicating wo-man/mother because women give birth and you come out of her as an individual.
According to the lexicons the root can also refer to imitation and mode of being and to "be thereof" as a collective and why ummah has the same originating root. You can easily verify my claim using a lexicon like Lane's.
Any kind of illiteracy or any alike connotations has no basis. The root simply means "of whom one is".
In 7157 the word refers to "those who emulate (imitate) the prophet messenger" in the context. It could give fuel to the sectarian crowd (so-called sunnah), but their derived behavior is taken from fabrications and fabricated interpretations of authentic sources (e.g. Quran).
The interpretation follow/imitate has basis in lexicons and is not my conjecture as people are so prone to accuse me of and so does "to be thereof" (mother).
7157, after further brief analysis, continually speaks of the adherence to what was decreed (maketoba) in all sources of revelation. The decree never changes.
Salaam
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My understanding of 'ummy' is gentile.
Your understanding from the "meaning" of the word 'ummy' is gentile; before that,
What is the 'meaning' of the word "meaning"? What do you mean by the word meaning?When Allah says 'a word', to know the meaning of it, you look into your own man-made dictionaries wherein are a bunch of meanings called synonyms or thesauruses out of which you shall choose a right word fitting to the past contexts and dead situations; but if the contexts and prevailing situations are of paramount importance in choosing a correct meaning, then with Allah is the truth of all the events, and the eventualities of them all; for it is with Allah the past of us, the present of us and the future of us and the meaning is the comprehension of the wholesomeness of these - the Reality. Before this reality your contextual and situational extracts, using your external poor sensorium are nothing but deception; your understanding shall never carry you forward to nor will it take you closer to the truth.
The intended use of a word by Allah is to gain from the Truth that is to know from Himself; this is what is intended of communication with the wholesomeness of the words used in a verse for it encompasses all the three worlds past, present, and future which is not a possibility at all with us; so we have to be humble before Allah when we say "I Know; I will teach you." I think Allah will not like us claiming that we know all things, especially His words and His verses in His Quran.
Coming to the man invented, lifeless and deathward dictionary knowledge, "ummy" means gentile; what is the meaning of the word gentile here? It means a person belonging to one of the pagan groups different to that of the Jewish pagans. So what Allah intends for man is to import from one's own inferences with reference to his reflections encompassing the three spacial times, when Allah used the word 'ummy'. From the man made dictionaries we see Muhammad an ummy i.e., a pagan with a difference... Do you reflect any further than that? If you do reflect further, then you will arrive at driving yourself closer to Enlightenment.
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When I say meaning, I'm talking about semantics that are accessible to mankind. God does not speak words to us directly. Neither did God talk directly to Muhammad. When the words of Quran were delivered to Muhammad, God used a messenger/malaika (in contrary to Musa, to whom God spoke directly). In Quran itself we find that this Quran was delivered in arab, containing clear signs. The semantics are those that pre-existed Quran/Islam and were used by the mailaika messenger sent to muhammad. The etymology of many words in Quran is historically older than their usage in Quran. Thus, I can be confident in concluding their meaning is accessible.
Gentile means those who aren't jewish in the Quranic context. Only in this understanding the context will reveal itself to you. Quran makes this distinction for good reason. The jews, are asked/reminded to uphold an existing older convenant by accepting this messenger and his message. Gentiles do not have such a convenant with God and are therefor addressed seperately.
I don't idolize muhammad, maybe he was enlightened, I can't tell from what I read in Quran. But referring to muhammad as a gentile is significant. His submission to God was not bound by older convenants but by his own choice and submission to God. It is even more significant to realize why God chose a gentile as his messenger. This is a clear message to the jews (for not upholding the convenant).
Peace
ps if you are sticking to an interpretation of 'enlightenment' one would expect the enlightened prophet to be Musa, not Muhammad. As God conversed directly with the first, not the latter.
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2.253 Of those messengers, some of whom We have caused to excel others, and of whom there are some unto whom Allah has spoken to, while some of them He exalted in degree...
Please say to me who are all those messengers Allah had directly talked to...
2.186 When My servants ask you concerning Me, I am indeed very close I listen to of every suppliant when he calls on Me Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me That they may walk in the right way.
Have you ever believed you shall listen to Allah's call? Should you not have listened to? And had you listened to, then this part of communication would not have found place here.
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2.253 Of those messengers, some of whom We have caused to excel others, and of whom there are some unto whom Allah has spoken to, while some of them He exalted in degree...
Please say to me who are all those messengers Allah had directly talked to...
2.186 When My servants ask you concerning Me, I am indeed very close I listen to of every suppliant when he calls on Me Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me That they may walk in the right way.
Have you ever believed you shall listen to Allah's call? Should you not have listened to? And had you listened to, then this part of communication would not have found place here.
I only know of dialogues between God and Musa in Quran. Understand what dialogue means. This is bi-directional communication. 2.186 is one directional communication.
When we call onto God, God listens. This is different from God speaking directly to us. The call God makes in 2.186 is not verbally spoken to us directly. Most of us have Quran for this. Quran only has a few examples of people being directly spoken to by God. I'm not one of them - it is very exceptional. I'm not a rasul.
In Quran you can find dialogue between Musa and God. There is no dialogue between Muhammad and God. So even prophethood does not imply God speaks to you directly. To Muhammad God sent a messenger instead of talking directly to him. Why would God send a messenger to Muhammad if they were able to have a dialogue such as with Musa?
Peace
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In a dialogue will you not listen? When Allah asks you to listen to Him, is He not so close to you wanting to speak with you, by keeping Himself nearer than your life vein 50/16? What difference do you make between dialogue and hearing between person to person as through physical means? And heart to heart communication between Allah and us, human beings all the time for He wants to guide us by His Means. Please say the difference.
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Root likely used; Alif-Meem-Waw, as per ancient lexicon. The root can refer to a female because the word actually means descriptively "be thereof" as indicating wo-man/mother because women give birth and you come out of her as an individual.
According to the lexicons the root can also refer to imitation and mode of being and to "be thereof" as a collective and why ummah has the same originating root. You can easily verify my claim using a lexicon like Lane's.
Any kind of illiteracy or any alike connotations has no basis. The root simply means "of whom one is".
In 7157 the word refers to "those who emulate (imitate) the prophet messenger" in the context. It could give fuel to the sectarian crowd (so-called sunnah), but their derived behavior is taken from fabrications and fabricated interpretations of authentic sources (e.g. Quran).
The interpretation follow/imitate has basis in lexicons and is not my conjecture as people are so prone to accuse me of and so does "to be thereof" (mother).
7157, after further brief analysis, continually speaks of the adherence to what was decreed (maketoba) in all sources of revelation. The decree never changes.
Salaam
In hebrew am is the word indeed for mother. But in OT the word is most often used in the meaning of nation/nations. Nations, in contrast to 'the' nation/people - namely the jewish people (israelites).
Peace
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I only know of dialogues between God and Musa in Quran.
And so Who knows who are the other messengers Allah had talked to directly, except Allah? Therefore what is there in Quran is an inducement for you to turn to Allah for more, and speak with Him directly for more; and wait in patience expecting to listen to Him when He speaks to you heart to heart. Turn to Allah and turn off your dictionaries.
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In a dialogue will you not listen? When Allah asks you to listen to Him, is He not so close to you wanting to speak with you, by keeping Himself nearer than your life vein 50/16? What difference do you make between dialogue and hearing between person to person as through physical means? And heart to heart communication between Allah and us, human beings all the time for He wants to guide us by His Means. Please say the difference.
Look up the verses in Quran that describe how God talks to Musa, asking him what his staff is for. Musa literally hears God voice, he can hear every word of this question in a verbal format. He does not see God, though he can hear every word God is saying. Quran describes this method of communication as 'from behind a veil'. It is one of three methods how God communicates with human beings. In those verses I'm referring to, Musa replies to God. God can hear Musa and replies to him.
Compare this to the verses mentioning Muhammad. It is not a dialogue with God in any understanding. Muhammad was asked to obey the messenger (angel) and submit. Outside these instructions he received from the angel/messenger, Quran tells us Muhammad erred and was criticized for it.
If you claim he was enlightened, how would you explain him erring and being criticized for it? I think you are still somewhat idolizing Muhammad if you think there is evidence inside Quran of him being enlightened.
God calls on all of us to submit and obey the message. That's what I'm trying to do. If you take instructions from enlightened messages you receive in your heart, how do you know what is from God and how to distinct those from the whispers of shaitan?
Obviously one can't. Therefor I obey the message, being Quran.
Peace