If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword
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Ah, then it appears we have identified the foremost sinner!
The Qur'an!
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No evil befalls on the earth nor in your own souls, but it is in a book before We bring it into existence; surely that is easy to Allah3796
when it is God who has created you and all your handiwork?Isaiah 457
I form the light, and create darkness I make peace, and I create evil I the LORD do all these things.Lamentations 338
Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both calamities and good things come?"atharva veda puts it very clearly,
"na dvitIyo na tR^itIyashchaturtho nApyuchyate
na pa.nchamo na ShaShThaH saptamo nApyuchyate
nAShTamo na navamo dashamo nApyuchyate
ya etaM devamekavR^itaM veda"
There is none second to It, neither third not even fourth.
There is none fifth to It, neither sixth not even seventh.
There is none eighth to It, neither ninth not even tenth.
It is the only Supreme. This is to be known."https//books.google.ca/books?id=ys9UXe2Qx14C&pg=PT135&lpg=PT135&dq=Bhagavad+Gita+All+things+come+from+God&source=bl&ots=obVKHwGEGz&sig=Zv-sbo_ZIUETETfUc-H2uIjDQq8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CD8Q6AEwBmoVChMIo6GUn6iWxwIVxlyICh0bAQ6T#v=onepage&q=Bhagavad%20Gita%20All%20things%20come%20from%20God&f=false
"The idea of three bodies should not mislead us into thinking that there are three different entities. Dharmakaya and Sambhogakaya do not refer to entities so much as existential states of being, and only the Nirmanakaya body is created anew in physical form. Actually the three kayas are two bodies--the formless body and the body of form. Both the Sambhogakaya and Nirmanakaya are normally called the form bodies of the Buddha, while Dharmakaya is formless.
Dharmakaya is basically the embodiment of what is called twofold purity. In its primordial purity, Dharmakaya is completely empty and open"
"However, the three kayas are not completely independent of each other. They are always interrelated, and when they unfold fully, they are inseparable from each other. The Nirmanakaya and the Sambhogakaya basically manifest out of Dharmakaya; in other words, both of the form aspects of the Buddha's being are dependent on the formless body. The Dharmakaya is the origin or field on which the other two are grounded."
"When we call the Sambhogakaya a "form body," we do not mean physical form but instead form in the sense of manifesting and being determinate, as opposed to Dharmakaya, which is formless because it is not determinate. The Sambhogakaya is determinate because, although it is not physical, it does manifest in varieties of ways. If Sambhogakaya is fully realized, then one can receive different teachings and meanings from many natural sources, such as sound, sight, and so on.
Sambhogakaya in turn gives rise to Nirmanakaya, which is realized through the physical body, and embodies both the Sambhogakaya and the Dharmakaya aspects. Nirmanakaya is physical in its essence and is historically situated, so that when we talk about Buddha Shakyamuni attaining enlightenment in Bodh Gaya, giving teachings in Varanasi, and eventually attaining paranirvana in Kushinagar, we are describing his Nirmanakaya aspect.
Because the Buddha's Sambhogakaya and Dharmakaya aspects are not historically situated, we cannot attribute any kind of temporality to them. The Sambhogakaya teachings are not a personal matter, and in some sense they cannot even be said to be Buddhist. The Sambhogakaya has embodied its meanings right from the beginning, before the time of the Buddha. It embodies them now, and it will embody them again in the future, for the auspicious coincidence of time is never ceasing.
The iconographical figure of the Vajradhara in thangkas and elsewhere symbolizes the Sambhogakaya aspect in its primordial sense. Vajradhara means "holder of the vajra scepter," and the vajra signifies the perennial truthfulness of reality that is not subjected to change and that does not need to be updated. Like the vajra, truth cannot be relativized and made into something that is conditional. It is a reality that is perennially true. As the symbol of Sambhogakaya, Vajradhara is an ahistorical phenomenon and is perceptible only to people with extraordinarily lucid and perceptive minds."
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And in everything have We created opposites, so that you might bear in mind1132
"from the evil that He has created,6101
The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created everything whatsoever and is Aware of all things?6714
How could it be that He who has created should not know ? Yea, He alone is unfathomable, aware!252
He to whom the kingdom of the heavens and the earth belongs. He does not have a son and He has no partner in the Kingdom. He created everything and determined it most exactly.
253 But they have adopted powers apart from Him which do not create anything but are themselves created. They have no power to do evil or good themselves. They have no power over death or life or resurrection.187
Truly, We determined whatever is in and on the earth as adornment for it so that We prove/make manifest with it as to which of them is best in action.229
He it is who has created for you all that is on earth, and has applied His design to the heavens and fashioned them into seven heavens; and He alone has full knowledge of everything.379
while God created you and what you do?2868
And your Lord creates what He wills and chooses. Not they have for them the choice. Glory be (to) Allah and High is He above what they associate (with Him as other creators and choosers).3154
Then, after this woe, He sent down upon you a sense of security, an inner calm which enfolded some of you, whereas the others, who cared mainly for themselves, entertained wrong thoughts about God - thoughts of pagan ignorance - saying, "Did we, then, have any power of decision?" Say "Verily, all power of decision does rest with God" - they are trying to conceal within themselves that which they would not reveal unto thee, saying, "If we had any power of decision, we would not have left so many dead behind." Say "Even if you had remained in your homes, those whose death had been ordained would indeed have gone forth to the places where they were destined to lie down." And so that God might prove/make manifest all that you harbour in your bosoms, and render your innermost hearts pure of all dross for God is aware of what is in the hearts .2255
God! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the Universe and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He determines? He knoweth what (app eareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is t he Most High, the Supreme (in glory).7188
Say, "I have no power for myself (to) good/benefit and no (power to) evil/harm, except what Allah wills. And if I would know (of) the unseen surely I could have multiplied of the good and not (could) have touched me the evil. I am not except a warner and a bearer of good tidings to a people who believe."2135
Every soul must taste of death, and We prove you with evil and with good, for ordeal. And unto Us ye will be returned.7723
For We determine; and We are the best to determine737 whereas by day a long chain of doings is thy portion.
738 But remember thy Sustainer's name, and devote thyself unto Him with utter devotion.
739 The Sustainer of the east and the west there is no power save Him hence, ascribe to Him alone the power to determine thy fate,
7310 and endure with patience whatever people may say , and avoid them with a comely avoidance.
7311 And leave Me alone with those who give the lie to the truth - those who enjoy the blessings of life - and bear thou with them for a little while3962
GOD is the Creator of all things, and He alone has the power to determine the fate of all things.873
and who determines the nature , and thereupon guides it ,172
And We vouchsafed revelation unto Moses, and made it a guidance for the children of Israel, "Do not ascribe to any but Me the power to determine your fate,739
The Sustainer of the east and the west there is no power save Him hence, ascribe to Him alone the power to determine thy fate,3962
God is the Creator of all things, He has charge of everything;5442
they, too, gave the lie to all Our messages and thereupon We took them to task as only the Almighty, who determines all things, can take to task.7630
And not you will except what wills Allah. Indeed, Allah is All-Knower, All-Wise.8129
And you do not even will anything except whatever wills Allah, Lord (of) the worlds.3411
Saying Make thou long coats of mail and measure the links (thereof). And do ye right. Lo! I am Seer of what ye do.5524
And His are the lofty ships that sail like mountains through the seas.1766
YOUR SUSTAINER is He who causes ships to move onward for you through the sea, so that you might go about in quest of some of His bounty verily, a dispenser of grace is He unto you.5158
Lo! Allah! He it is that giveth livelihood, the Lord of unbreakable might.10107
If Allah afflicteth thee with some evil, there is none who can remove it save Him; and if He desireth good for thee, there is none who can repel His bounty. He striketh with it whom He will of his slaves. He is the Forgiving, the Merciful.3317
Say Who is he who can preserve you from Allah if He intendeth evil for you, or intendeth mercy for you. They will not find that they have any friend or helper other than Allah.2273
O mankind! A similitude is coined, so pay ye heed to it Lo! those on whom ye call beside Allah will never create a fly though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly took something from them, they could not rescue it from it. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought!
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No true understanding of God have they for, verily, God is most powerful, almighty!37102
Then when he reached the (age of) working with him he said, "O my son! Indeed, I have seen in the dream that I am sacrificing you, so look what you see." He said, "O my father! Do what you are commanded. You will find me, if Allah wills, of the patient ones.4224
DO THEY, perchance, say, ?He has attributed his own lying inventions to God?? But then, had God so willed, He could have sealed thy heart for God blots out all falsehood, and by His words proves the truth to be true. Verily, He has full knowledge of what is in the hearts ;1823
And (do) not say of anything, "Indeed, I will do that tomorrow."
Except, "If Allah wills." And remember your Lord when you forget and say, "Perhaps will guide me my Lord to a nearer (way) than this right way."GET IT? NOT YET?
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Indeed, you (can) not guide whom you love, but Allah guides whom He wills. And He (is) most knowing (of) the guided ones.Now that you have identified the foremost sinner, how much shall we all pay you? 2000USD each?
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9103 Take from their money a charity to purify them and develop them with it, and make contact with them; for your contact is a tranquility for them; and God is Hearer, Knowledgeable.
If you read the Quran which is supposed to be read in its context in the first place, then it is obvious this verse is directed at prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
if this verse do not fit in any context other than this is as good as nullified.
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Yeah, remember how when people are ganging up on me or saying something I am saying is bad, without explanation, you take the opportunity to join up and try to kick me at that time saying "I am glad you said this" and stuff like that, its just a bad habit a little bit, I was bringing it up for that reason because many people are like that.
Take the opportunity?!? elektro Could you clean your mind?
If people say/do things which I think is good, then of course it could make me feel glad.
I'm not really good at English (I'm not excel in language subject), I think that compare to you and the other members, it could need more (or much more) time for me to prepare my post, to arrange words, to make sentences, to correct them, so if there are other people who already told you or gave you advice about something right, then of course that's something nice for me (it could ease my burden, I guess).
If people reminding each other to follow/do the right thing (do you know about "amar ma'ruf nahi munkar"? - I like it), that is something which usually makes me happy/glad.
Even though I myself cannot always do that (amar ma'ruf nahi munkar), but actually, I don't like apathy, I think it is not right if we just ignore wickedness/deceits/injustice (evil things) in front of us.
I think silence is not always golden.
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Not only you A.W, but anyone with inner sense shall know none can afford that money; cannot even imagine to pay that amount even if they are rich; and I cannot rob them of their money; and I cannot force them to pay; and I cannot even bargain money in exchange for the cure; but I have to deliver to the patients the Sign of Cure and prove to them that Allah is true to His Promise to them, Who says, "It is Ok, you will be alright, if only you believe Me and Me alone, without shirk of medicines", when I have that wisdom and proof. I think now you will know whether I can get the money at all from these patients - but my duty is to deliver.
It is not at all difficult for one to comprehend if they are believers in the ayats of Allah, that Allah expands the provisions to whom He will; and straitens to whom He will.
13.26 Allah expands His provisions for whom He wills and restricts them to whom He will. And they rejoice in the worldly life, while the worldly life is not, compared to the Hereafter, except brief enjoyment.
A.W I am willing to talk to you, the essence of the ayats, so that Allah amplifies you with His Bounties - provided you do not join hands with the sinners, who can never understand nor touch even the Quran 56/79.
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9103 Take from their money a charity to purify them and develop them with it, and make contact with them; for your contact is a tranquility for them; and God is Hearer, Knowledgeable.
If you read the Quran which is supposed to be read in its context in the first place, then it is obvious this verse is directed at prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
What is a charity from money?
2219 They ask you about intoxicants and gambling. Say ?In them is great harm, and a benefit for the people; but their harm is greater than their benefit.? And they ask you how much they are to give, say ?The excess.? It is thus that God clarifies for you the revelations that you may think.
USD 2000 is even expensive for the middle class earners. And you take such from the poor (who barely have the basics never mind the excess!) who themselves are deserving of the charity!? Whether your method works or not - I can't comment on it anyway as I have no proof. But as far as what you charge as "charity" from the deserving of the same in the first place, You do a grave injustice.
Finally something good from you. Come a little closer even, and you'll be a knight just like me. Perhaps Allah intends that you are purified of the last remnants of your shirk soon. I am not wrong in a single drop of what I am saying, and you will either conform or you will be a performer of shirk, it is just a matter of of 1+1=2, it has nothing to do with insulting Allah or Justice or anything like that.
Allah simply is the Ultimate, holding charge and sway over every action. The bowing of the heads, the getting up, the sleeping, the places we walk, the insects we deliberately or accidentally step on and the thoughts involved, our fully experience, ALL that is created and determined by Allah, and Allah chooses and Allah determines and Allah is the only one there is doing anything at all, and this is NOT a misunderstanding at all, and you will be on the wrong side of the fence until you agree wholeheartedly with it even if it sounds distasteful to you.
This will prove if you're a truly humble one or not. Arrogance is not in a boisterous comic knight, arrogance is in shirk and claiming YOU will, YOU decide, YOU determine if it goes this way or that way, which path you take, what you will do. You do not choose ANYTHING. That doesn't mean that you do not perceive an impression of choice and decisions occur and thought processes, all which are Allah creating and giving you those thoughts and their sequence and determining which you follow.
It isn't left up to you or "chance" at all, Allah is the only "Chance" we have. It isn't "I can choose this path, or I can choose that path, and if I choose this path then I determine the insect is crushed today rather than not". Do you understand? If you deny this, then you are still on the wrong side of the fence, no matter how noble you are, all your deeds will be wasted according to the Qur'an.
So you either conform exactly to what I am saying, in all humility, or you continue to deny it and hold on dearly to your candle which only gives you a little light into the nature of things.
I'm selling you illumination, the price isn't 2000USD but absolutely free, as Allah wills.
Allah is offering you the truth, will you keep slapping it away?
Allah alone is the determiner of all things, the Ultimate, you are in a state of surrender willingly or unwillingly, you have no choice, nor can you save yourself, nor can you choose good or evil, but it will appear to you if ALLAH WILLS that you are choosing, and that is all part of Allah's creating and determining, you do not have an existence, you are NOTHING but what Allah SAYS you are. Do you understand?
If you say you choose, you are saying "it can go this way or that way, I decide truly, Allah leaves it to me" and what that translates to is "it is up to Chance to decide if I do this or that".
Say "I am giving up my prior statements of shirk, I surrender to what FreedomStands is saying, he is truly correct and right in this, Allah is indeed the determiner of all things, creator of every motion and experience absolutely, the performer of all actions, the power behind all things, there is no power but Allah, there is no will but the will of Allah, there is no religion but the Surrender. I surrender, I surrender, I surrender. FreedomStands is now my brother truly, he spoke the truth by the will of Allah and helped me albeit incessantly and to my annoyance, in understanding the true nature of Allah. Allah does not "leave it up to us to choose, having created paths we determine which we walk on and the results are pre-calculated, I was so wrong, in fact the truth is Allah creates all that we say, do, think, and choose, and how we choose it is by Allah too, All is from God, God created all things whatsoever be they thoughts or deeds or the actions or choices and exactly what we will is chosen by Allah. I hope Allah keeps me on this straight way, as his devotee and a knight of the Eternal Truth".
The curse of Allah be upon you otherwise. It is "do or die". Will the sword of Truth knight you, or cut off your arms?
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61.2 O you who have believed, why do you say what you do not do?
Allah warns and stops those who explain of Quran When he does not have a grant of proof from Allah, for whatever he says. You can find here the pages are flooded with ayats with no proof or explanation with the proof. Such are the most hated ones in the sight of Allah.
61.3 It is most hateful in the sight of Allah that ye say that which ye do not.
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Take the opportunity?!? elektro Could you clean your mind?
If people say/do things which I think is good, then of course it could make me feel glad.
I'm not really good at English (I'm not excel in language subject), I think that compare to you and the other members, it could need more (or much more) time for me to prepare my post, to arrange words, to make sentences, to correct them, so if there are other people who already told you or gave you advice about something right, then of course that's something nice for me (it could ease my burden, I guess).
If people reminding each other to follow/do the right thing (do you know about "amar ma'ruf nahi munkar"? - I like it), that is something which usually makes me happy/glad.
Even though I myself cannot always do that (amar ma'ruf nahi munkar), but actually, I don't like apathy, I think it is not right if we just ignore wickedness/deceits/injustice (evil things) in front of us.
I think silence is not always golden.
I agree totally with that.
I was just saying it appeared (maybe it is an English language issue) that when people would come and say to me, even jokingly like good logic did that I'm doing something wrong (he was kidding really), you would come along after and say stuff which translates to "yeah! you tell em!".
This happened multiple times, and it seemed to be a ganging up type mentality, especially considering that I am not saying anything wrong at all, even if my methods are controversial, opposing me is opposing the message that God is absolutely Ultimate, and because I hold on to that, I can not be wrong and anyone who says "yeah! you tell em! tell em he is wrong and bad! kick him! yeah!" is joining the side of evil. It may be that my English is such that it seems that I am saying wrong things, but the simplification of what I am typing is simply Allah is the Ultimate, creator, controller, determiner of all things whatsoever, there is no power other than Allah, no creator of anything other than Allah who even makes whatever we think we make or invent, and none who control anything but Allah, nor determine anything but Allah.
You can't find a "cleaner mind" than that.
The flat earth issue isn't important, but this is important. You either completely agree and completely conform to what I am saying absolutely (as you grow to understand it more) or you are performing shirk. There are no two ways about it.
I am saying 1+1=2. You can't just say "no" to that without being a liar and a miscreant proven.
Now if you say "Allah does not determine or choose all things" it is not dissimilar from the Hadith lovers who say idiotic things like "Allah does not look in bathrooms, is not present everywhere" out of their sense of piety, while they are performing a major sin by doing that because they are saying "Allah does not have all knowledge, is not encompassing all experience/information".
When you say (and I am not saying you have said this, but you may, like others, have flirted with this erroneous thought) "Allah does not determine or choose everything" you are saying "the people choose, Allah does not determine all things, but the people determine some things" and what that translates to is "it can go this way or that way" and what that translates to is "it is left up to the power known as "Chance", "Chance" actually determines, and Allah looks to Chance to see what Chance determines.
This is simple linguistics and mathematics, it has nothing to do with piety of saying "How can I say Allah determines injustice be done", that is where the focus confuses people, because indeed Allah determines everything and creates everything, this is regardless of what the Qur'an ever seems to say, even though it says it too like all the scriptures tend to say, but I say "regardless" because it is the truth before all those books, it can never be otherwise at all because it is essential truth, meaning it is always "If one says God doesn't determine, they are saying it is determined not by God but another determiner", do you see? This is not a matter of lies, its a matter of proper language use and understanding the linguistic implications.
So you either completely conform or you are literally performing shirk.
I am not kidding and I am not wrong, nor am I "inventing a lie concerning Allah" I am merely speaking the MATH of it.
You can it say "Allah is Ultimate, creator and determiner of EVERYTHING WHATSOEVER" while also saying "Allah depends on other powers and actors and determiners, does not determine everything, did not create everything whatsoever, but only some things, or the initial things, then the rest are other lesser creators or makers, or the base materials are from God but not the acts or experiences or realities, or we choose them and so decide what God does" it is breaking all the definitions, it is going against itself, it is going against everything.
In the matter of the "flat earth" simply say "I do not know anything much, whether the Earth is flat or not is not very important, Allah can certainly make it that the Earth appears flat, and can make it that the Earth appears round, Allah knows, I do not know, and Allah is not bound to anything, but whatever is bound to be is by Allah alone".
That is the right way to say it.
Again, if you take this as arrogance and not help, and you deny it, it is the lack of humility in oneself to fail to heed the following statements "Allah alone is the Ultimate, creator of everything absolutely, the good, the bad, and the ugly, precisely as it is, nothing happens except as Allah wills, chooses, and determines".
I am not wrong in any of this. The answer to everything I say is "I surrender to Allah, I pray to Allah that I come to what is right and stay with what is right, I surrender to the truth that Allah is the chooser, the determiner, the will, the cause, the performer, the sole sovereign and the singular power of which there is no power either greater or even lesser, but we are all powerless absolutely and equal in powerlessness before Allah who is the sole power".
Nothing at all is wrong in that statement.
"I pray that Allah wills that I do good in this life, and receive good in this life and the afterlife". Nothing is wrong in that statement either. "If Allah does not will it, I will never achieve anything good whatsoever since I have no power whatsoever to even will or attain to good or decide on good or know what is good except as Allah wills".
This is correct thinking. Conform to it or fail. Don't say "Allah save me from what you are saying" because that is just ignorance and saying "keep me in the dark!"
Every single one of you will either conform to this or will fail, it is simple math.
Allah is proving who the Muslims are on this website and who the kaffirs are. It is simply a matter of a chemical being introduced into the water and the colors changing and showing, some green, some red.
It is all being made manifest, and then on Judgment day you will be shown about this perhaps and it may be explained to you what you were created to be, a kaffir, hypocrite, mushrik, jahil, or Muslim or what. Then Allah will place you where Allah wills, you have no choice in the matter, just like you never chose where or how you were born, what your livelihood was, what you drew, where you stepped, or anything else, even though of course included in everything is the impression of you thinking and deciding, and Allah creates whatever Allah wills, and does so free from being DRIVEN by anything because there is nothing to DRIVE Allah. Allah is SELF DRIVEN, SELF SUFFICIENT, not CAUSED to do anything, but the CAUSE of everything.
Correct your beliefs and conform 100%, I am not misguiding you. You can never go wrong saying "Allah is the Ultimate, there is no power except Allah" including ALL the implications that go with that, as compared to the implications that arise from saying "Allah did not create ALL things or determine ALL actions and choices".
The same goes for all of you. Every single one of you.
You are either on the straight path, or you are not, there are not "many paths" in this case, there is only THIS, what I am saying, which is the first step and basis of the right path and understanding Surrender.
If you divert from it even .00000000001 percent in understanding, you will be consequently implying SHIRK, and the Qur'an says basically your deeds will all be in vain, you will not be forgiven if you die like that, so it is imperative for your sake that you conform. Of course, you will NEVER conform except as Allah wills, and if you do not conform, it may be that the curse of Allah is upon you and you are destined for destruction, and Allah does as Allah wills, there is no one and nothing that can save you, not even yourself.
Does this sound bad to you? Will you formulate some opposition? Will you flee? or will you be my sister and a fellow fighter in the cause of Allah? You too are being offered the Knighthood.
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61.2 O you who have believed, why do you say what you do not do?
Allah warns and stops those who explain of Quran When he does not have a grant of proof from Allah, for whatever he says. You can find here the pages are flooded with ayats with no proof or explanation with the proof. Such are the most hated ones in the sight of Allah.
61.3 It is most hateful in the sight of Allah that ye say that which ye do not.
Ah, I guess then that it was good that you said you rob the poor by taking 2000USD, in order to "say" and then follow that with "doing" your robbery.
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Money colored snake, did you look at this post http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg373332#msg373332 or were your eyes occupied on the money you have robbed the people of for "religious talking and prayers".
You have business to attend to, such as denying the truth of what I wrote and the absolute power of Allah alone.
Of course you preach exactly what you do, like a baby, you turn your mouth away from the medicine being given to you by me.
Won't you swallow it drfuzool? You incessantly deny that Allah is the creator of all things whatsoever in the heavens and the Earth, "you and all your handiwork" "you and what you make". You deny it all repeatedly. Now you ignore it too, and fail to read it. Is it you who makes you unable to understand or is it Allah who makes you unable to understand? Is it you who makes you ignore it, or Allah? Is it you who chooses that you should be a defrauder of the poor, or has Allah cursed you to be a wicked thief and deceiver who spreads the lie that "Allah did not create all things, for example, Allah did not create medical technologies, but there are other creators besides Allah".
You are asking that I humble myself to the statement that "Allah is not the determiner of all things, Allah is not the Ultimate, Allah is not the chooser, Allah is not the maker of everything absolutely"
I am asking you to humble yourself to the statement "Allah is the absolute, the Ultimate, the creator of all things whatsoever, the chooser of all things, the determiner of all things, not leaving things to other powers or actors such as men, jinn or "Chance" which do not create or choose or determine or cause anything at all, but Allah alone is the power that does all."
Humble yourself, or die in a state of shirk. Do you think this warning is from me? All is from Allah, your resistance to the truth is from Allah, and my telling you the truth is from Allah, All is from Allah.
Allah is so merciful to even tell you these things, just like Pharoah was told things, he too said that he chooses and he determines, and he too was one who harmed the people.
drfiron, will you conform to the truth that Allah is the Ultimate, or will you continue to say that Allah did not create all things?
You are being offered a simple way out of all this, that is to conform, but it is a show of Allah's power to see that you can't, and a show of Allah's power if you do manage to humble yourself before the truth. Whatever you do, it is the will of Allah, you have no choice in the matter in what you will or choose, that is Allah choosing it for you and willing you to will what you will, and it may be that Allah is leading you to utter destruction (same goes for me).
Understand? Do you think this is just an online joke and I'm just some "random" crazy person? No, this is a big thing being proven here, a big thing is being witnessed here, this is no small joke.
Conform for your own sake or die in shirk. The choice? It is Allah's.
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The foremost sinner is one who says Allah creates all evil in man's heart; all evildoings; and Allah misleads deliberately; and it is His Will - a very perverse misunderstanding and spread of disinformation to which God has cast him! Such is the knowledge from Quran, of the foremost sinner.
If I am sinning by saying Allah is the Ultimate, the creator of everything, the chooser of everything, the determiner of everything, there is no power but Allah, who is the power of and behind all things driving all things and is in charge of all things absolutely, and such statements are evil and "God has cast him" as in me, to it, then is it not, according to your statement, God misleading me "deliberately" or is it "indeliberate" and "caused by me" as if I am the driver of God and the cause, the determiner, the chooser?
I think the answer to that question is you just made a mistake in your sentence, and what you meant to say instead was "to which God cast him, accidentally, by Chance, or not at all, as God does not cast anything, but we are the casters".
It is so frustrating and annoying that I have to wait for you to burn in hell and watch your face roasted off repeatedly. It is Allah who makes me wait, not you.
When you are dead and gone, drfazl, perhaps the poverty stricken people of the Tamilnadu will be free from their oppressor who robbed them of 2000USD each for "prayers".
Will you die holding on to your statement that Allah is not the determiner, that Allah is not the power over everything, the decider, the cause, the doer, the will, the chooser, the maker of everything, you and what you make no matter what? The driver of you and the choices you take?
Will you die like that drfazl? Death is at hand always, it is right around the corner, though it may seem to you a long time away, you have no way to hold on to your "time".
Do you die fearlessly? Having robbed the poor for "prayers" you utter, charging them 2000USD for "prayers" you utter. Do you die fearlessly and stand before Judgment and say "You do not create or control everything, but there are other creators and determiners, you did not decide all matters or control what happens, but it was left to "Chance" and other powers besides you". Is that what you will say? When you might be asked "You charged an enormous sum of people for prayers which you uttered, in what sense of right did you do this?" will you say "I did not rob those who were sick and in need" and the reply may come "We know best what you did, and from who you stole". What an honor, truly, if you were even to be spoken to by Allah, a filthy criminal degenerate disease spreader and robber such as yourself. You should be honored too, if Allah casts you into the fire with all the wealth you acquired for "praying" for people.
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Speak Only Kind Words And Beware of the Demons
17.53 Tell My bondmen to speak that which is kindlier. Lo! the devil sows dissensions among them. Lo! the devil is for man an open foe.
If we search through some 20 pages from 52 to 75 pages here you will not find a single page not infected by a devil speaking not only the harshest but filthiest words possible. He is the open foe to the entire mankind. This will further aggravate him but what is to be said is to be said for he shall not defy 17.53 thereby disobeying the entire Quran and Allah.
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Here are some more "harsh words" for you, from what you might be calling "The Devil"
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"And We took across (the) Children (of) Israel - the sea, and followed them Firaun and his hosts (in) rebellion and enmity, until when overtook him the drowning, he said, "I believe that (there is) no god except the One, in Whom believe the Children of Israel, and I am of the Muslims."
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"Now? -when ever before this thou hast been rebelling , and hast been among those who spread corruption?There is no kindness to a robber of the poor. Aren't thieves the ones who get their hands cut off?
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Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are fierce to the kafirun, merciful to one another. You see them bowing and prostrating, seeking Allah?s good favour and His pleasure. Their mark is on their faces, the traces of prostration. That is their likeness in the Torah. And their likeness in the Injil is that of a seed which puts up a shoot and makes it strong so that it thickens and grows up straight upon its stalk, filling the sowers with delight ? so that by them He may infuriate the kuffar. Allah has promised those of them who have iman and do right actions forgiveness and an immense reward.38 ?Our Lord, do not make our hearts swerve aside after You have guided us. And give us mercy from You. You are the Ever-Giving.
39 Our Lord, You are the Gatherer of mankind to a Day of which there is no doubt. Allah will not break His promise.?
310 As for those who are kafir, their wealth and children will not help them against Allah in any way. They are fuel for the Fire,
311 as was the case with the people of Pharaoh and those before them. They denied Our Signs so Allah seized them for their wrong actions. Allah is fierce in retribution.
312 Say to those who are kafir ?You will be overwhelmed and crowded into Hell. What an evil resting-place!? -
Speak Only Kind Words And Beware of the Demons
17.53 Tell My bondmen to speak that which is kindlier. Lo! the devil sows dissensions among them. Lo! the devil is for man an open foe.
If we search through some 20 pages from 52 to 75 pages here you will not find a single page not infected by a devil speaking not only the harshest but filthiest words possible. He is the open foe to the entire mankind. This will further aggravate him but what is to be said is to be said for he shall not defy 17.53 thereby disobeying the entire Quran and Allah.
It is "filthy" and the "filthiest words possible" to quote the Qur'an, speak against injustice such as the robbery of the poor for 2000USD each for "prayers", and to say Allah alone is the Ultimate of which there is no other power whatsoever, nor any other creator, who makes us and what we make and everything?
Is the "open foe to the entire mankind" one who invites to Eternal Truth of Allah by saying "worship Allah, who controls everything whatsoever, you are at the complete mercy of Allah and Allah's will always, surrendered completely willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly" or the one who says "Allah is not the determiner or creator of all things nor the cause of everything, and do not fight infection or diseases, but allow them to spread in your body, and pay me "alms" of 2000USD to "pray" regarding you".
Which is the "open foe to the entire mankind" in your estimation?
Is one who says "The decision is with Allah always in all matters, Allah creates and chooses what Allah wills, no choice have they, there is no determiner or power other than Allah alone, the Absolute, the Ultimate" one who "disobeys the entire Qur'an and Allah"?
Is that so? Curious indeed!
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Judgement is with Allah and the reckoning is His; and these two are not with the demons; whoever says I have the judgement above Allah, then he becomes an accomplice of shaitan.
Those who were with Muhammad, followed their avowed messenger leader whom Allah had endowed with the decree as He willed. So those who were with him followed in avenging the people. But here the demon is with Iblis, who commands him to act by his decree? It is now evident that most times satans too would recite from Quran; 48.29 and continues to recite; and this indeed is an instance.
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The satan's words "Surrender completely willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly"
All other creations from heaven to earth are asked to surrender to the will of Allah willingly or unwillingly; but this order from shaitan asks mankind to surrender with the same order, which is not Quran and it is not Allah's command that a man shall surrender unwillingly, but willingly knowing and understanding the Creator and Fearing Him. Demons can utter Quran but those who are given the wisdom of the Book shall point out the flaws to the people and warn them that satan too shall utter the ayats of Quran.
Now it is open challenge to the demon, to show the ayat that says Allah will accept a man as of His Bondmen if he is forced to surrender, when he is unwilling. The postings are full of vomitus of the abominable, sick demon.
10.100 He lays abomination upon those who have no understanding.
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The satan's words "Surrender completely willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly"
All other creations from heaven to earth are asked to surrender to the will of Allah willingly or unwillingly; but this order from shaitan asks mankind to surrender with the same order, which is not Quran and it is not Allah's command that a man shall surrender unwillingly, but willingly knowing the Creator and Fearing Him. Demons can utter Quran but those who are given the wisdom of the Book shall point out the flaws to the people and warn them that satan to shall utter the ayats of Quran.
Now it is open challenge to the demon, to show the ayat that says Allah will accept a man as of His Bondmen if he is forced to surrender, when he is unwilling. The postings are full of vomitus of the sick demon.
You said these are Satan's words "The satan's words "Surrender completely willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly""
If you correctly quote me "you are at the complete mercy of Allah and Allah's will always, surrendered completely willingly or unwillingly, knowingly or unknowingly"
but you are a deceiver, so of course you tried yet again to mislead the people by quoting incorrectly, and even so, you called it "Satan's words" so behold, who you call "Satan's words"
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Seek they other than the religion of Allah, when unto Him surrenders whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and unto Him they will be returned.476
Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of false powers. So fight the minions of the devil. Lo! the devil's strategy is ever weak.I say Allah is the only power, all are surrendered to Allah willingly or unwillingly. You falsely wrote about what I said in order to deceive people, and also suggest something like "No, it is not so" to what I am saying. Thus you are in the wrong, as usual because you battle for the cause of "false powers" which you claim "created, while Allah did not create what they created or all things, but Allah created some things, and they created some things which Allah did not create or control or determine".
So who is right?
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USD 2000 is even expensive for the middle class earners. And you take such from the poor (who barely have the basics never mind the excess!) who themselves are deserving of the charity!? Whether your method works or not - I can't comment on it anyway as I have no proof. But as far as what you charge as "charity" from the deserving of the same in the first place, You do a grave injustice.
when i was treating patients 10 years ago in my small town with acutouch i started charging 2 dollars. some of the rich and the middle used to tell me 2 dollars is more how come the poor afford, actually those who ask want to pay less or they need it free. actually they are comparing the modern medicine its machinery and their big buildings with my small clinic and no machinery. they came to my clinic knowing the fees is less and the cure is effected.
whereas those who they mentioned cannot afford were happy with the cure which they didn't get from modern medicine. they didn't look the fees but look the cure that they didn't get for years. they say we were happy and brought more patients never complained about fees even later when i increase it to 10 dollars after some years. you have to keep in mind these are people who came after many years suffering from useless treatment by allopathy. patients of all diseases came thronging. be it there.
now drfazl in the capital (with huge gathering of patients in front of his clinic, his appointment is just 2 minutes with a patient for one treatment for any kind of disease you mention, how long the patient suffered be, the patient need to return back only if he has a problem further. questions were cleared by pamphlets and those who got cured already who bring the patients. many were jealous, they asked, he taught, his class only for three days) he left this acupuncture treatment just because he feared Allah when people made shirk of him for cure. many called him insane just because he left the amount of money he earned not just because he said the cure is caused by Allah.
he started teaching quran alone. after three years of his earnest teachings (people arranged meetings and called him to talk about God) of quran alone. for telling quran alone the amount of abuse he got from the muslims you will never know, Allah protecting from all adversary. and later knowing he was a doctor people approached him to give them treatment/healing. he started praying for them. when they healed they brought more patients slowly. but he asked them first to attend the meetings (which is free) understand what is been told then if they need, they can come for healing.
please remember here they are patients from all walks of life suffered for many years with diseases and treatments spent quite a fortune. you have to keep in mind here a natural birth in a hospital cost you some were around 1000 - 1200 dollars. you can calculate for caesarian section and other operations here (Tamilnadu is now a medical destination). pregnant women who come to him for prayer getting delivery in their home. now many started calling him from ICU.
they are not mere starters in a disease. they are patients who suffered in mind as well as physical and also money from modern medicine. not just an usual clinic you see anywhere. people who have faith only in God (how many of you have faith only in God) and only after attending his meetings has to come to clinic after understanding what he is doing or they will be turned away. because even now people come here as if some miracle is happening. few occasions i saw him saying the patients who he feels not satisfied in their faith to take their fees back from the office and come back after they believe in God. even if they are reluctant to get it back he insist them to take back though he has prayed for them. some came back with confident. now he sits with the patient and their relatives for nearly an hour. his clinic timing is only 3 hours in the early hours for four days a week.
when the patients say i don't have enough money i have already spent in hospitals, he accepted whatever they paid and insisted them to pay him the rest when they are filled with Allah's bounty (no followup for fees). his prayer is sure based on 9.103. you have to see him only in the light of quran he fears Allah than anybody else.
he is not behind money if that is the case he need not leave acupuncture. if you see his website without knowing this (he left acupuncture treatment 15 years back) you can see many asking him to give acupuncture treatment now. i believe the fees he asks only to insist people to spend for the right cause instead of saving which is against quran. drfazl's charity is not shown to public, only with the hearts of believers, i have met some (i write this because someone asked a question). Allah's Grace on him, you all? took it for curse. may Allah give us good thought.
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3.83 So is it other than the religion of Allah they desire, while to Him have submitted all those within the heavens and earth, willingly or by compulsion, and to Him they will be returned?
This verse does not speak about man but about every other created things in the heavens and the earth and everything in between. If it is indicating man too, then this ayat shall contradict 2/256; then to the men of ill understanding, Allah admonishes they shall not open their mouths until the Quran is completed on them 20/114. But the demons will not heed; yet they cannot get anywhere near Quran 56/79.
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10.100 He lays abomination upon those who have no understanding.
Agreed. Now we can also agree that it is an abomination to rob the sick and poor people of Tamilnadu of 2000USD for saying "prayers". Did you see "Allah lays abomination", there is Allah laying abomination, doing what he wills and chooses, and so we see your abominable act of robbing the sick and poor who come to you pleading and in desperation and you rob them of 2000USD solemnly and for "prayers".
Who is the abominable one?
I ask no fee whatsoever for telling people Allah is the Ultimate, there is no power but Allah, Allah created all things, Allah even "lays abomination" as you proved with the quote you selected there.
You ask a fee of an enormous sum of a poverty and disease stricken people of 2000USD and then "pray" and say to them "Allah is not the power or creator of everything, but medicines are not the creation of Allah, but there are other creators, and Allah did not make their handiwork." Your own quote that follows you these days under all your posts begins with something like "Quran reading is useless", which it apparently is for you, since you do not do as you say (which you also mentioned earlier), and do not "decisively stick to righteousness" since you ask for a fee of "alms" of an enormous sum of 2000USD from people for "prayers" and "religious teaching", making you a decisively unrighteous criminal thief, and your "religious teaching" is that "Allah is not the creator of everything absolutely, but some things, such as medicines and evil, are not created by Allah or determined by Allah, but there are other creators and determiners besides Allah, you should not fight disease, since not all the means by which you might fight disease are really from Allah, but are from Jinn or other sources besides Allah who created them while Allah did not create everything, the Jinn created things, and God is not responsible for all creation" even though the Qur'an says Allah makes everyone and what they make too, that they can not even make a fly or control anything in the least, and many more things which I showed you which you apparently ignored.
I'm offering you clear reasoning, so what do you have to say for yourself except "I am very sorry, I will change my ways, I will stop robbing the poor, thinking that I won't survive without stealing 2000USD from people for "prayers" and not trusting that Allah will provide for me in a better manner than my robbing the poor and the sick and the needy in exchange for "prayers", and I will stop the printing of all my lies and deceptions, and I will run from the people who took me to be a messenger and a saint and a spokesperson of good, and I will cease all my shirk and say that Allah alone is the Ultimate power, creator of all things absolutely, and the only chooser and decider, there is no power but Allah, I surrender, and I repent, asking Allah to forgive me, I have been a wicked person, and I only ask that in my advanced age that I can be MADE by Allah to amend my conduct and finally act righteously in my life".
Will you do it? Doubtful that you will. It would take a blessing from Allah to grant you the humility to do what I've suggested to you. You will very likely fail in this regard, and this will all become a mockery of you later perhaps, rather then a miraculous moment of sudden change and repentance, where our enmity is instantly ended as well and you become my brother instead of my enemy.
I am not supposed to be nice to you until you do right and you are of the army of evil for as long as you say "Allah is not the creator of everything, I will continue to take 2000USD or ANY SUM WHATSOEVER from people for "prayers" or "religious teaching".
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3.83 So is it other than the religion of Allah they desire, while to Him have submitted all those within the heavens and earth, willingly or by compulsion, and to Him they will be returned?
This verse does not speak about man but about every other created things in the heavens and the earth and everything in between. If it is indicating man too, then this ayat shall contradict 2/256; then to the men of ill understanding, Allah admonishes they shall not open their mouths until the Quran is completed on them 20/114. But the demons will not heed; yet they cannot get anywhere near Quran 56/79.
So you are saying "all those" does not include "man", and man is also apparently not "withing heavens and earth" but somehow apart from it and not included in "all" and when Allah says "all" it doesn't really mean "all" it means "some" like in the case of "All is from God", it really means "some is from God, some is from other sources" and when the Qur'an says "Allah created ALL" it means "Allah created SOME, Jinn and Man created other things which Allah did not create" and when the Qur'an says "Allah created YOU AND WHATEVER YOU MAKE/YOUR HANDIWORK/ALL THAT YOU DO" it means "Allah created you, but only some things, and not really what you make, or your handiwork, or what you do".
This is your interpretation then?
All doesn't mean All but means "Some" and "Creator of Everything, They create nothing" means "Creator of some things, they create some things which Allah does not create"?