If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword
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These are not "unnecessary claims". They are clarifying the positions. Identifying your shirk clearly. It is no wonder you would not want them revealed.
Common my friend,
Get down to business.First put the ayat 26.80
Put the ayat
Explain the ayat
Interpret to the situation
How you apply to the varying standards of people around
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Peace Javalatte,
Dr Fazl's meetings (6 meetings per month) happens every month all over tamilnadu, southern state in India. Every meeting, 200 to 400 people attend. Also, a few listen over phone regularly. People abroad (Singapore, Malaysia, Dubai,etc.) download and listen to his speeches from foolproofcure website.
There are others who read his books and magazine - Health time.
Yes. Some do not go to him for treatment when they are ill, because Drfazl insists that we turn to God and not to him.
Gita
Hi Gita, Does Dr Fazl collect /take money from his meetings and for his speeches , books and magazines?
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Common my friend,
Get down to business.First put the ayat 26.80
Put the ayat
Explain the ayat
Interpret to the situation
How you apply to the varying standards of people around
And finally you will know where you stand.I'm sleepy, do it for me. You seem to have some plan to prove something. All you want to prove is the following
"FreedomStands says that Allah is the only power and Ultimate which creates and controls all things absolutely, this is not so, because I, drfazl, say that the Qur'an says that Allah does not create everything or control everything, but instead there are other creators and determiners, and Freedomstands is wrong from saying Allah is the only creator of everything, because Allah did not create medical technologies".
This is what you want to prove? Then as they say "Go to hell".
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I'm sleepy, do it for me. You seem to have some plan to prove something. All you want to prove is the following
"FreedomStands says that Allah is the only power and Ultimate which creates and controls all things absolutely, this is not so, because I, drfazl, say that the Qur'an says that Allah does not create everything or control everything, but instead there are other creators and determiners, and Freedomstands is wrong from saying Allah is the only creator of everything, because Allah did not create medical technologies".
It is for sure time and again you prove you have no understanding of Quran; you cannot touch 26/80; 3/7; 17/85; 20/114 or any of the ayats; absolutely ignorant, posing here to prove your concept Allah guides you to hell; It is wilful play by Allah; Allah creates all evil for you; Allah makes you steal; Allah makes you rob; Allah makes you a terrorist; Allah bombs Iraq, Palestine; Allah created molesters of women; and Allah shall send molesters to Heavens; and the molested to Hell; He does what He wills. What an understanding of Quran and Allah!
Listen to what I say
Allah says, Good is what Allah has in store in abundance for you which He will create in just measure in accordance with each of your behaviour distinct from one another; and evil is what He creates for you in just measure to the extent of each of your unjustness.
If you really fear Allah, take one ayat, only one ayat out of 6000 odd verses and discuss your subject instead using all the slum languages on earth. I know as a low lying one that you are you cannot free yourself from the foul languages; all your posts speaks of the freedom and it is unimaginable that you have been given by the moderators to use as much foul mouth to speak as possible in this thread; and I doubt if they all stand by you. And I doubt if there are any more evil words still left on the streets.
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@drfazl, Do you take money or gifts from your followers and for your lectures and writing in magazines?
I do not take money or gifts for the meetings nor do I have any following and I do not believe in the organizations; I am single, all alone with Allah.
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@drfazl, Do you take money or gifts from your followers and for your lectures and writing in magazines?
You may be interested in these posts if you're curious about the financial aspect
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605479.msg330853#msg330853
Allah finally taught me His Way. From the year 1999 December the patients one by one started trickling again after a gap of 3 years. Now after 13 years of leaving acupuncture, with the cure effected in each patient through prayers alone, I am teaching Quran and how to be under the grace of Allah by shirking away from shirk. My fees now is USD 2000 per patient. It is no more a fees now because I am not curing but God. It is an offering they have to give as their alms for Allah having guided them in the right path through a chosen person from among them. I was not revealing this all along only to avoid embarrassment on both the sides.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605427.msg331173#msg331173
"Affluent people will never come to me; the so called educated will make fun of me; the middle income people will be weighing their options too long to come to me. Who is left here, are the poor people and who are below poor and who have no money at all.
So, my real service will only be towards the 'poor' people. Yet I will not reduce my fees and no concessions to money.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605427.msg331166#msg331166
And of course, by Allah, I do not ask for wages to deliver the messages of Quran to the people. All my travels are by flight and the best auditoriums, my stay in 5 star hotels are my own expenses and I do not expect from the people who comes to listen to this message, close to 600 to 750 people every week. Even while I was deprived of all the money 20 years earlier, I was traveling in the third class train, with very difficult accommodation, with a very thin gathering of 10 or 15 people in the big auditorium - all expenses were borne by me with whatever Allah had left with me. Again this was not felt tough by me at any point of time. I was only thinking of when Allah's help would come; and I know and always believed, Allah's help is near.
Anyone other than the dummy accounts can see exactly what's going on here.
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A Wise Man Vs A Fool
The knowledge of a wise will increase like a flood,
and their counsel like a life giving spring.The mind of a fool is like a broken jar;
it can hold no knowledge.When an intelligent person hears a wise saying,
he praises it and adds to it.
When a fool hears it,he laughs at it and throws
it behind his back.The utterance of a sensible person in the assembly
and they ponder his words in their minds.A fool raises his voice when he laughs,
but the wise smiles quietly.The mind of fools is in their mouth,
but the mouth of the wise is in their mind.When an ungodly person curses an adversary,
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OMG. drfazl not only a charlatan , a liar too. @freedomstands , thanks for exposing him.
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OMG. drfazl not only a charlatan , a liar too. @freedomstands , thanks for exposing him.
I had no idea, it shocked me too. Allah is bringing to light the accusations against the criminal. He has defrauded the vulnerable, and misled them, telling them that they should let infections and disease spread in the name of shirk, saying "Allah did not create everything, Allah did not create medical technology or all things, only some things." and opposes those who say Allah created everything, All is from Allah whatsoever.
He then takes 2000 USD from people, when teaching them Islam supposedly! DO YOU KNOW HOW AFRAID I WOULD BE ASKING A PRICE EVEN TO BE THE FRIEND OF A PERSON? YET HE TAKES A PRICE TO TEACH THEM RELIGIOUS THINGS!
That is considered a major sin by almost all the religions.
He calls it, like other scam artists, "alms". DOES ANYONE GIVE A POOR PERSON 2000 USD per meeting?
He compares himself, and is compared by people to a messenger, yet the messengers did not ask a fee from people or else they would've been called criminal con artists. That is why people called them madmen, since they brought themselves to ruin rather than riches, so people could not explain why they were doing it.
What does he teach for this price? He teaches that "All is not from Allah, for example, medical technologies are not from Allah".
Hey drfazl, you snake, who defrauded the poor and harmed the innocent and ignorant! Count up the money you have made, and know that every offering you have accepted will be turned into the currency of the afterlife, that is, Fire. What will you wear for clothes then drfazl? You who said "Jinn are the masters of fiery technologies, Allah did not create everything whatsoever, but only some things, Allah did not create all technologies" (even though Allah said YOU AND ALL YOU MAKE, YOU AND ALL YOUR HANDIWORK, ALLAH CREATED), will see who the real Master of Fiery Technologies is perhaps.
"They are blessed" making proclamations on behalf of Allah? I do not know if you will go to paradise or hell, but what you require is another change of career.
Flee from your current endeavors, cease taking a price or "alms" for your teachings. Discontinue the printing and the speeches, and Fear Allah.
You can not win and you can not prosper in the end by saying "Allah did not create everything, for example, Allah did not create your handiwork, what you make, since Allah did not create medical technologies".
Know this, criminal, deceiver, killer Even if the Qur'an had said "Allah is not the Ultimate" or "There are other powers besides Allah" or "Allah did not make everything" that ALLAH IS THE ULTIMATE, THERE ARE NO POWERS BESIDES ALLAH, AND ALLAH MADE EVERYTHING WHATSOEVER. THERE IS ONLY THE ULTIMATE, AND YOU WILL LEARN THE HARD WAY OR THE EASY WAY.
You are asked only to surrender to this, what I am saying is right, and if you TURN AWAY, AND IF YOU DENY IT, then know who the Muslims are.
They are the ones who say There is no power but Allah, there is no ilah but Allah, no creator, no power, no determiner, no actor, nothing but Allah alone who does anything at all. They have no power to create, they have no power to do, they have no power even to will to do anything.
ALL YOU SHIRK RIDDLED SCUM ON THIS WEBSITE, YOU ARE SUPPOSEDLY MUSLIMS, SO HEAR ME OUT, if you do not abide by what is being said here, REGARDLESS OF THE QUR'AN OR WHAT YOU THINK IT SAYS, you will FAIL to understand the nature of reality, and the Truth of Death and Destruction is only ahead.
Thus, I repeat, if ANYONE or ANYTHING, including the Qur'an you claim to hold dear, says "Allah is not the Ultimate, Allah is not the power behind everything, there are many powers, there are many actors that Allah does not control, Allah does not control all things, Allah's hand is fettered, the people run free and chance determines what they do, Allah does not know what they will do or what is done nor makes it happen or makes it so but the people choose and determine what paths" or ANY VARIETY OF THAT, is FALSE, and can NEVER BE SO, because the ULTIMATE, whatever is ULTIMATE by definition is in control of everything whatsoever, creator and cause of everything absolutely, conscious determiner of all things, not being run by Chance, not being run by anything but itself.
I REPEAT No matter WHAT the Qur'an seems to say to you, the statement "Allah does not control or create all things" can NEVER BE TRUE, unless what you are calling Allah is not the Ultimate.
I do not fear your pathetic lies and lesser gods of your imagining. That is why I'm bold.
Go ahead and test your pathetic gods against mine, curse me with all your might!
Bring your worst magic against me, ask your Allah to fight with the ULTIMATE.
Go ahead drfazul, you snake, you who believe that Allah did not create everything and take 2000USD (a huge amount for the people) money for such statements, see if all the Hindus prayers and yours combined can change the TRUTH.
Bring all your worst against me, pray to your false concepts that are less than the Ultimate (since they did not create everything nor control absolutely everything), and see what can be done! Know that if you pray against me, you are praying against someone who says Allah alone is the power of everything everywhere, creator of all things whatsoever, and that this is what you are attacking vehemently, because you are polytheists and shirk lovers.
I urge you all to curse me with all your might to see if you have any power whatsoever.
Why am I so unafraid of your curses? It is because I know who the power is, and I am luring you into a trap of the most tremendous backfiring you've ever experienced in your life. This is because I want that you suffer immensely in this life and the next.
Why?
It is because you lie to humanity by saying Allah is not the Ultimate, and charge a fee for it, and spread infection and disease. I want all evildoers to suffer horrifically.
Among those on the website, drfazl, you are the top criminal here.
If you repent and completely amend, you'll be my brother in an instant.
Until then, you are simply a representative of evil, and evil is what I fight. Nothing personal, I don't know you, what you look like, or anything. You're just an empty thing, it is what you represent that I am vicious against, so don't take it personally that I am calling you a snake, villain, criminal, murderer, child killer, misleader, deceiver, thief, and whatever else. It is what you are representing and doing, it is what you are spreading, and it is all based firstly in the lie that you spread which is "Allah did not create all things".
I have even given you an easy way out, a way that you can maintain aspects of your criminality while reducing the amount of hatred I have for you.
The way out is that you say "Everything, including medical technologies, all that we make, all our handiwork no matter what, is created by Allah, Allah creates all things" and you can add "but not everything Allah has created is good for us, and medical technology is bad for you, even though Allah created it as well as everything else, good and bad".
Thus you reduce your shirk, even though you remain a misleader and murderer, you will at least not be doing shirk on top of it.
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I do not take money or gifts for the meetings nor do I have any following and I do not believe in the organizations; I am single, all alone with Allah.
What? Then what about what was posted about you?
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A Wise Man Vs A Fool
The knowledge of a wise will increase like a flood,
and their counsel like a life giving spring.The mind of a fool is like a broken jar;
it can hold no knowledge.When an intelligent person hears a wise saying,
he praises it and adds to it.
When a fool hears it,he laughs at it and throws
it behind his back.The utterance of a sensible person in the assembly
and they ponder his words in their minds.A fool raises his voice when he laughs,
but the wise smiles quietly.The mind of fools is in their mouth,
but the mouth of the wise is in their mind.When an ungodly person curses an adversary,
he curses himself,degrades himself and he is hated in this forum.If you are referring to me, do you consider what I say, the sayings of a fool, for saying that Allah is the only power, there is no other power, Allah determines, creates, and fully controls everything and does not leave things up to other powers like the power of chance and individuals have no power to do anything or even will anything of their own accord?
I enjoyed what you wrote anyway, but if you're calling me a fool for my statements, then that means you are opposed to the statements and instead saying what differs from them. If you say what differs from them, you are in a state of shirk. If you are in a state of shirk, the Qur'an issues curses upon you.
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It is for sure time and again you prove you have no understanding of Quran; you cannot touch 26/80; 3/7; 17/85; 20/114 or any of the ayats; absolutely ignorant, posing here to prove your concept Allah guides you to hell; It is wilful play by Allah; Allah creates all evil for you; Allah makes you steal; Allah makes you rob; Allah makes you a terrorist; Allah bombs Iraq, Palestine; Allah created molesters of women; and Allah shall send molesters to Heavens; and the molested to Hell; He does what He wills. What an understanding of Quran and Allah!
Listen to what I say
Allah says, Good is what Allah has in store in abundance for you which He will create in just measure in accordance with each of your behaviour distinct from one another; and evil is what He creates for you in just measure to the extent of each of your unjustness.
If you really fear Allah, take one ayat, only one ayat out of 6000 odd verses and discuss your subject instead using all the slum languages on earth. I know as a low lying one that you are you cannot free yourself from the foul languages; all your posts speaks of the freedom and it is unimaginable that you have been given by the moderators to use as much foul mouth to speak as possible in this thread; and I doubt if they all stand by you. And I doubt if there are any more evil words still left on the streets.
By the way, ignorant snake, it is not "slum language" to identity what you are. When I said "mtherfa***, my joke (had you keen observation) was that no swear word at all was said. Nor was a real swearword censored. Look carefully. It says "m*therfa". There is no such English swearword that continues "fa", but I was watching the ignorant people on this website take it to mean a swearword haha. Not only that, but part of the joke was censoring the o in mother. Not many people understand my humor.
Now, if I call your teachings absolute sht. This is not slum language either. Sht is a word which refers to fecal matter and filth, which is like the shirk you teach and the deeds you do as you rob the poor, yet I have been quite gentle with you in calling you merely what you are, a snake, murderer, liar, thief, deceiver, misleader, shaitan, devil, and whatever else.
Perhaps even a "m*therfa" haha whatever that is. Oh! A Motherfazl perhaps!
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faruk's enquiry
@drfazl, Do you take money or gifts from your followers and for your lectures and writing in magazines?
To this I replied, I do not take money or gifts for my lectures; and I have no following; nor do I enrol membership; nor had I set up an organisation. And about magazines and books, yes, definitely I sell it.
Now, where I have gone wrong in this?
And wherefrom and what triggered so much of hue and cry is what is intriguing. From the disinterring, from the places of interment and internet?
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Beware of Shaitans and His Tribe.
727 O Children of Adam! Let not Satan tempt you as he brought your parents out of the Garden, stripping them of their garments to show them their shameful parts. Surely he sees you, he and his tribe, from where you see them not. We have made the Satans the friends of those who do not believe.
O The mankind, let not shaitans prompt you and make you fall a prey to his aggression and oppression as he did to the people before you now and aforetimes; and maintain your dignity and decorum even in a forum of no identities and preserve your attire and attainment for Allah; surely shaitan sees you, he and his accomplices hand in hand from where you see them not. We have made shaitans and his friends of those who do not believe.
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faruk's enquiry
To this I replied, I do not take money or gifts for my lectures; and I have no following; nor do I enrol membership; nor had I set up an organisation. And about magazines and books, yes, definitely I sell it.Now, where I have gone wrong in this?
And wherefrom and what triggered so much of hue and cry is what is intriguing. From the disinterring, from the places of interment and internet?
What then of the 2000USD you mentioned in an earlier post?
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2000 USD - it is a riddle now, when people do not have good thinking ( for this you need quran as guidance) they only choose the wrong as right. if you think rightly with the postings of drfazl you will understand the truth about 2000 USD. let it be a riddle. let the unright curse with their hasty decision. i can say you have wrongly concluded.
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Javalatte used to enjoy coming around and kicking me when others would kick me urging them on saying "yeah, you tell em!" type stuff, when I am fighting for what is absolutely right.
So, that's what you think of me?
I tell you, I'm not here with the purpose to "expel" you.
Of course I like if you stop from making trustless writings in here, but I'm not eager to stop you (whether you believe me or not - I don't care).
I need to earn a living, so I'm not having enough time to go online (including to spend time in this forum) as much as I want. I should do something which I think is an answer of my prayer to Allah back then (I can't really remember when, maybe few years ago). Currently, Allah helps me to do work which inshaAllah I could like/enjoy entrepreneurship and creativity, and I don't want to be ungrateful for the opportunity which is given to me, and if I could do my work properly, then God willing, it could make my parents happy, and that's much more important than "kicking you",
and, I think it is better and more peaceful to learn the Qur'an in person and avoid the contamination from misleading/bad posts in this forum. Perhaps it is better for me to focus on other things other than free-minds, however, I could feel the need to login for certain things, such as before this time, the last time I logged was not because of you, but because one of hicham's posts made me interested, and then I posted about a group in Facebook and I also wanted to ask something to brother Hizbullah (by PM).
I don't want to follow drfazl, you, or MoF. I think you threes have grave similarity.
But maybe drfazl is more "advanced", because it seems he already has quite-loyal supporters (or accounts?) who backed him here.
If people have wisdom and apply righteousness, I hope they could recognize why you, drfazl, and MoF should not be followed blindly.
Brother A.W is my friend, and I'm glad that he is not among of your fans.
Peace.
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I feel that I supposed to respond/reply to Hizbullah and mmkhan earlier, I am sorry brothers.
Maybe I should make more proper posts @ Wiselite and @ mmkhan (there's something I wanted to ask you brother, related with hospital), but I can't do it today - I'm sorry.
However, in short, I hope that you both (mmkhan, Wiselite) can choose wisely from drfazl posts/writings/statements - which ones are right and which ones are wrong.
Salaam.