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    muslims
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    and some comparisons on the pattern of arguments..

    Salam..

    Read again, it says "pattern of arguments"..

    Peace peace

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      cont.

      and some comparisons on the pattern of arguments..

      Whereas the Qur'an says...

      It is He who has sent down to you the Book

      in it are verses precise
      they are the foundation of the Book

      and others unspecific

      As for those in whose hearts is deviation
      they will follow that of it which is unspecific
      seeking discord and seeking an interpretation

      And no one knows its interpretation except Allah

      But those firm in knowledge say
      "We believe in it. All is from our Lord."
      And no one will be reminded except those of understanding.
      (37)

      refer also 5101 and 267-71

      inconsistently...

      logically...

      Peace peace

      What are you bringing this ayat 37 for? Did I reject his ayat? Or did I request you to discuss? If you really want to discuss the ayat we shall discuss it exclusively so. But it seems you pick up ayats here and there only to put me into your red whimsical explanation that which you fancy. And before having an idea of fixing some one using a particular ayat, please remember the same explanation you bring would fit you more than fixing your opponent. Hence do not hunt for ayats; it sure shall haunt you.

      Peace

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        Salam

        Read again, slowly... you are spamming this thread with irrelevant questions and ignoring our real issues. pr

        Peace.

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          Salam..

          Read again, it says "pattern of arguments"..

          Peace peace

          With Quran there can never be argument if you fear Allah; and you began arguing from the word go. Instead just say your view without contradicting others' views; let as many as 8 million views pour in. You must have the criterion and patience to choose the best of them all. Such are the people who are men of understanding; and Allah conducts in righteousness only such of these people.

          Peace

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            Salam

            Read again, slowly... you are spamming this thread with irrelevant questions and ignoring our real issues. pr

            Peace.

            Do you know the meaning of spam? How come you consider yourself as single, one man largest recipient group in this thread? I have bundles of issues with every posting of yours but I never contested any of them. I have posted just one post a weak ago and you said
            You can enlighten us with your understanding or perspectives.

            I have not made an argument here; but if it is thrust on me, I have no way except to try to make clear my view point from every angle possible. I have not passed a single comment on you, unlike you. Say your view against my view, without challenges and comments. This is the main principle to have in mind when it comes to Quran. Subdue, submit and surrender to Allah while writing your perspectives on an ayat for Allah knows best. Wait eagerly for any better input. If you find unworthy posts, all we have to do is just ignore and seek forgiveness for him and for yourself, for we have become judgemental already.

            Peace and I stop here with you
            May Allah Guide Us All

            Salam
            fazlur rahman

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              With Quran there can never be argument if you fear Allah; and you began arguing from the word go. Instead just say your view without contradicting others' views; let as many as 8 million views pour in. You must have the criterion and patience to choose the best of them all. Such are the people who are men of understanding; and Allah conducts in righteousness only such of these people.

              Peace

              Salam

              Where does it mention that it is an argument against Allah or the Qur'an? (REFER HERE)

              AND as I said, read again.. slowly...

              Peace

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                Do you know the meaning of spam? How come you consider yourself as single, one man largest recipient group in this thread?

                Salam

                Okay.. I think you are panicking and unable to use your rational minds (refer here and here). Let me know when you are able to relax and discuss logically on the issue.

                Peace. yes

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                  I have not made an argument here; but if it is thrust on me, I have no way except to try to make clear my view point from every angle possible.

                  Salam

                  No offense, but the above statement is implying an argument from your part. I am not referring to the argument of an ordinary man or what we ordinarily called as "quarreling" (which is not an argument), but from the point of Critical Thinking and Logical Analysis. A method to determine whether a conclusion is sound or unsound, a method to determine the validity of conclusions and separating the poor reasoning and fallacious arguments.

                  In logic and philosophy, an argument is an attempt to persuade someone of something, by giving reasons for accepting a particular conclusion as evident. The general structure of an argument in a natural language is that of premises (typically in the form of propositions, statements or sentences) in support of a claim the conclusion; Definition of an argument

                  A fallacy is an argument that uses poor reasoning; Fallacy

                  (example of poor reasoning, refer here, here and here)

                  The following is an ayat showing a Muslim must use reasoning and not relying on dogma or fallacious conclusions.

                  Indeed, the worst of living creatures
                  in the sight of Allah
                  are the deaf
                  and dumb
                  who do not use reason
                  (Al-Anfal22)

                  And among them are unlettered ones
                  who do not know the Scripture
                  except in wishful thinking
                  but they are only assuming
                  (278)

                  And if you obey most of those upon the earth
                  they will mislead you
                  from the way of Allah
                  They follow not
                  except assumption
                  and they are not
                  but falsifying
                  (6116)

                  And they have thereof no knowledge
                  They follow not
                  except assumption
                  and indeed
                  assumption avails not against the truth at all <- assumptions is not "Faith"
                  (5328)

                  "Condition" to be regarded as those who believe the Qur'an

                  So is one who upon a clear evidence from his Lord?
                  And a witness from Him follows it
                  and before it was the Scripture of Moses to lead and as mercy
                  Those believe in the Qur'an <- only these peoples believe the Qur'an
                  (1117)

                  Peace. peace

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                    Peace brothers/sisters

                    1276
                    ... We exalt whomever we choose to higher ranks. Above every knowledgeable one, there is one who is even more knowledgeable.
                    ....

                    Discuss, respect and keep learning.

                    May the Lord grant us more knowledge and wisdom.

                    Peace to all.

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                        Dear brother Muslims Salaam!

                        The job done by you in this thread clearly suggests that you are very thoughtful. Your work tells its own tale about your penchant of making a great deal of mull in the skull before breaking the lull. Usually, it is seen that at such level people get inflicted with arrogance. But I have every hope that your good self will not allow this menace to even touch you from outside. May Allah bless you with more precision of mind to maintain your best of standards and bring forth even better and better.

                        Salaam!
                        Mehjabeen

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                          Salam

                          Thank you and human beings have several souls existed like layers of an onion, and each stage has its challenges and diseases, which all human beings have to confront during their spiritual journey; internally, as well as externally, and something which is inescapable to all human beings, and which have to be purified by consistent action of fasting, dzikir, meditation, sadaqah, good deeds and remembrance of Allah etc. However, it is not thinking but absorbing, sorry. Thinking alone will normally make us farther away from the right path since our minds are in the same group or is influenced by our lust or low desires. It is our duty to separate our minds from the low desires, so that we are able to project the right magnetic/electrical signals to our heart; ie. the door to our souls, who have witnessed and communicated with Allah (7172), existed in ourselves as "memory". The conclusion, it's a very tough job for becoming a real human beings, and may Allah bless all of us with better understanding and help us in the performance of our duty. pr

                          And the soul and Him Who made it perfect
                          Then He inspired it
                          to understand
                          what is right
                          and wrong for it
                          He will indeed be successful who purifies it
                          And he will indeed fail who corrupts it
                          (917-10)

                          Peace peace

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                            Salaam dear brother Muslims,

                            Without any doubt you have deep study of Al-Kitaab and you are equipped with profound knowledge by the Grace of Allah. I find you the right person who can deal with certain mind boggling queries appropriately confronting me for long arising out of various sources (not essential to spell out). Will you kindly permit me to ask the following questions?

                            (i) Do you find resemblance of Allah's System of Governance within the Human Being? If yes, how?

                            (ii) Do you find Prophets/Messengers and their tales mentioned in Quran within the Human Being? If yes, kindly explain.

                            (iii) Do you find the Country named India resembles the Grand Quran? If at all yes, kindly throw light.

                            (iv) Do you find the system of governance adopted by India (of course on paper) resembles Allah's System of Governance? True or False?

                            (v) Do you find the Book of Allah confirms Sanskrit Scriptures considered Holy by the Hindus? True or False?

                            (vi) Do you find Abraham = Brahma, Ismael = Mahesh, Ishaaq = Vishnu, Yaqub = Ganesha, Krishna = Moses, Ram = Mohammad etc.

                            (vii) Do you find eating flesh of animals that survive on the Earth is unhealthy and not prescribed? True or False?

                            I have put forth above questions just out of quest but do not expect to reject them in a haste. If at all you do not like them, kindly choose to ignore.

                            Salaam!

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                              Salam

                              Interesting, Abraham, Brahma, iBrahim, Sarah, Saraswati, Black Stone, Shiva Lingam, Trishula, Mizab, Baqarah, cow, companions.... There is no need to discuss issues not related to the Qur'an and we just leave it to Allah for inspiring "the understanding of right and wrong" (917-10); since He is Al-Mu'min, The Inspirer of Faith, He is Al-Hadi, The One whom with His Guidance His believers were guided, and with His Guidance the living beings have been guided to what is beneficial for them and protected from what is harmful to them, we are not. We are servants and can only discuss from what is precise from the Qur'an.

                              And when Abraham said
                              "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead."
                              said, "Have you not believed?"
                              He said, "Yes, but (I ask) only that my heart may be satisfied."
                              said, "Take four birds and commit them to yourself.
                              Then (after slaughtering them) put on each hill a portion of them
                              then call them - they will come (flying) to you in haste
                              And know that Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise."
                              (2260)

                              And you become three kinds

                              Then the companions of the right
                              what are the companions of the right?

                              And the companions of the left
                              what are the companions of the left?

                              And the forerunners, the forerunners
                              Those are the ones brought near
                              A company of the former peoples
                              And a few of the later peoples

                              (567-14)

                              certain mind boggling queries appropriately confronting me for long arising out of various sources (not essential to spell out)

                              For the sake of testing ourselves and to realize the gods and ulamas inside ourselves, try to stop eating, drinking and sleeping for 3 straight days (72 hours). Are we able to achieve this target or we are still hypocrites? This is not suggested by the Qur'an, and only a simple self-test to prove the existence of gods and ulamas inside ourselves. A simple test to realize the flow of ideas within ourselves and how far we are able to control these ideas.

                              Do the people think
                              that they will be left to say,
                              "We believe"
                              and they will not be tried?

                              But We have certainly tried those before them
                              and Allah will surely make evident
                              those who are truthful
                              and He will surely make evident
                              the liars

                              Or do those who do evil deeds think they can outrun Us?
                              Evil is what they judge
                              (<a href="http//quran.com/29/2-4">292-4</a&gt

                              Peace

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                                Dear brother Muslims Salaam!

                                (i) How do you know what the Quran is?
                                (ii) How do you know Quran teaches what?
                                (iii) How can you say Quran explains only this and not that?

                                You have chosen to reject the quest in a haste probably in arrogance of having deep study or having much knowledge or for the reasons best known to you. No wonder! This is what most of the humans are. No more deliberations then, May Allah bless.

                                Salaam!

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                                  Salam

                                  (i) How do you know what the Quran is?

                                  Indeed, IT IS A NOBLE QURAN
                                  In a protected Book
                                  None can grasp it
                                  except those purified (from shirk)
                                  (5677-79)

                                  (ii) How do you know Quran teaches what?

                                  It is He who has sent down to you, the Book
                                  in it are verses precise
                                  they are the foundation of the Book

                                  and others unspecific
                                  As for those in whose hearts is deviation
                                  they will follow that of it which is unspecific
                                  seeking discord and seeking an interpretation
                                  And no one knows its interpretation except Allah

                                  But those firm in knowledge say
                                  "We believe in it. All is from our Lord."
                                  And no one will be reminded except those of understanding
                                  (37)

                                  (iii) How can you say Quran explains only this and not that?

                                  O you who have believed
                                  DO NOT ask about things which
                                  if they are shown to you
                                  will distress you
                                  But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed
                                  they will be shown to you
                                  Allah has pardoned that which is past
                                  and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing
                                  (5101)

                                  Rather, they have denied that
                                  which they encompass not in knowledge
                                  and whose interpretation
                                  has not yet come to them

                                  Thus did those before them deny
                                  Then observe how was the end of the wrongdoers
                                  (1039)

                                  Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth
                                  a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp
                                  the lamp is in a glass
                                  (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star
                                  lit from a blessed olive-tree
                                  neither eastern nor western
                                  the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not
                                  light upon light
                                  Allah guides to His light whom He pleases
                                  and Allah sets forth parables for men
                                  and Allah is Cognizant of all things
                                  (2435)

                                  He grants wisdom to whom He pleases
                                  and whoever is granted wisdom
                                  he indeed is given a great good
                                  and none but men of understanding mind
                                  (2269)

                                  Peace peace

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                                    And when Abraham said
                                    "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead."

                                    I wonder why Abraham asked how Allah give life "TO THE DEAD" (l-mawt&#257 ?

                                    How many peoples had Abraham witnessed rising from the dead? hmm

                                    Can Prophets rise from the dead or they are absolutely prohibited?

                                    (men with nine lives and nine tombstones (2), and during 1300++ (refer here), not sure whether it is true or forged, "Earthdom" might know the full story since it is in Surabaya, Indonesia)

                                    Or as the one who passed by a township
                                    which had fallen into ruin
                                    He said, "How will Allah bring this to life after its death?"
                                    So Allah caused him to die for a hundred years
                                    then He revived him
                                    He said, "How long have you remained?"
                                    The man said, "I have remained a day or part of a day."
                                    He said, "Rather, you have remained one hundred years
                                    Look at your food and your drink
                                    it has not changed with time
                                    And look at your donkey
                                    and We will make you a sign for the people
                                    And look at the bones
                                    how We raise them and then We cover them with flesh"
                                    And when it became clear to him, he said
                                    "I know that Allah is over all things competent."
                                    (2259)
                                    refer to (349) (272-73) (3050)

                                    The issue is there any other ayats in the Qur'an can further elaborate this precise situations?

                                    Is this still happening, or it will never happen after the Qur'an has been completed?

                                    Peace peace

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                                      Salaam dear brother Muslims,

                                      Without any doubt you have deep study of Al-Kitaab and you are equipped with profound knowledge by the Grace of Allah. I find you the right person who can deal with certain mind boggling queries appropriately confronting me for long arising out of various sources (not essential to spell out). Will you kindly permit me to ask the following questions?

                                      (i) Do you find resemblance of Allah's System of Governance within the Human Being? If yes, how?

                                      Yes. The entire universe is praising Allah's Glory and waiting for His Command to discharge its duties to man in his favour or against. 5331 And to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth - that He may recompense those who do evil with the penalty of what they have done and recompense those who do good with the best reward -

                                      When we wish for the favours from the heaven upon us in prayers, Allah commands the heavens thus upon whom He pleases and thus our wish and Allah's system of governance obeys us.

                                      (ii) Do you find Prophets/Messengers and their tales mentioned in Quran within the Human Being? If yes, kindly explain.

                                      Their tales involve the people and communities they lived with We have the characters in us that which is narrated as the caharacters of the community of Lut; and the evil character of Firaun we can find in most US presidents in particular and in every leader of any country in general. And then the characters of prophets we have in us too as mercy, forgiving, tolerance and so on in various degrees; of course, they are the qualities of Allah which we possess in various proportions.

                                      (iii) Do you find the Country named India resembles the Grand Quran? If at all yes, kindly throw light. (iv) Do you find the system of governance adopted by India (of course on paper) resembles Allah's System of Governance? True or False?

                                      I do not understand as to what you mean.

                                      (v) Do you find the Book of Allah confirms Sanskrit Scriptures considered Holy by the Hindus? True or False?

                                      True and false. Scripture of what language is not important; but those scriptures do have the Truths to a minimal extent as is in Quran.

                                      (vi) Do you find Abraham = Brahma, Ismael = Mahesh, Ishaaq = Vishnu, Yaqub = Ganesha, Krishna = Moses, Ram = Mohammad etc.

                                      Abraham, Ismail, Ishaq, Yacub, Musa, Muhammad are real people chosen by Allah as messengers and prophets.
                                      Brahma, Mahesh, Vishnu, Ganesha, Krishna are imaginary people characterised heroes by the human story tellers.

                                      (
                                      vii) Do you find eating flesh of animals that survive on the Earth is unhealthy and not prescribed? True or False?

                                      Eating flesh of non-vegetarian animals and birds with its blood totally drained is healthy and prescribed.

                                      Salaam!

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                                        (i) Do you find resemblance of Allah's System of Governance within the Human Being? If yes, how?

                                        Yes. The entire universe is praising Allah's Glory and waiting for His Command to discharge its duties to man in his favour or against. 5331 And to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth - that He may recompense those who do evil with the penalty of what they have done and recompense those who do good with the best reward -

                                        When we wish for the favours from the heaven upon us in prayers, Allah commands the heavens thus upon whom He pleases and thus our wish and Allah's system of governance obeys us.

                                        Salam

                                        You have misunderstood many of his questions. For example, he is asking about the similarity of our bodies and brain cells with the universe, and whether it is the door to our "memory" or knowledge (Knowledge of the Unseen).

                                        And He taught Adam <- Who is Adam?
                                        the names
                                        all of them
                                        (231)

                                        He said, "Did I not tell you
                                        that I know the unseen
                                        of the heavens and the earth?
                                        (233)

                                        http//7uncle.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/braincell-universe.jpg

                                        and his presumptions might not fully accurate, or may also departed from the true course. The mind is not the answer, so as our body and India or Lord Shiva, and in fact the galaxy (have limits and boundaryies, actually quite small). It is only the tools and mechanisms, ie. the signs. There are things that are much larger than minds and India, unimaginable and which totally dependant on each keys.

                                        Thinking alone will normally make us farther away from the right path

                                        so that we are able to project the right magnetic/electrical signals to our heart

                                        ie. the ability to control waves and signals, is only the beginning... Kun Faya Kun, and which this thread is all about, Justly Balanced and Unity! The Highway!

                                        He will indeed be successful who purifies it <- from Shirk
                                        And he will indeed fail who corrupts it
                                        (917-10)

                                        Peace.

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                                          Human beings = Nafs + Mind + Heart + Soul

                                          First group Nafs (Kapten) + Mind (Follower)
                                          |
                                          +
                                          +----Link-----
                                          |
                                          Second group Heart (Kapten) + Soul (Follower)

                                          Allah
                                          http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                          Reality
                                          (Khalif)
                                          (Witnessing and understanding 99 attributes of Allah in the Universe)
                                          (Only then we will understand what is "Alhamdu lillahi rabbi alAAalameen&quot
                                          ( &#1605
                                          http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                          Soul
                                          http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                          Heart
                                          (Language of the Heart)
                                          (Understanding of the Qur'an)
                                          (requirement = 100% obedience)
                                          http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                          Mind
                                          http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                          In between
                                          (Top Buddhist Monk +/- ??)
                                          http//static1.cargurus.com/gfx/cargurus/inventorylistings/circle_arrow_up_green_small.gif
                                          Nafs
                                          (We are here - nafs-i-ammara, or see below)
                                          Scientist and Philosopher?
                                          http//api.ning.com/files/uGCxg7sZSOsBbNwvSUN0m6uFBP5OUvR7e-3lYPcnfzzdki1NKdfBKi*MBEzKhhqFLbCaNgzbOCTwHTwBFp0cz3nyqUP-l7F1/arrowDownSmall.png
                                          Animal
                                          (requirement = 0% obedience)
                                          (<a href="http//quran.com/7/176">7176</a&gt

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