Qur'an Universe Model Is Geocentric
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BUNDLE of shames for the flat earthers yay
they are like the shameless PLAYER in boxing ring after having a decision of truth they are crying/yieling still on their loss. they are saying what if refree/audience selected him champion kts not written in quran hez a champion. hahaha its actually the pain of punches what make them scream again and again.
they accept they dnt have eclipse model still they are chatting shit. lmao
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peace, suggest study basic math and physics
Make sense? How does this nonsense make sense?
This is something which even today's high school student can easily explain.Peace
I was once an high school student, I took Maths, Physics Geography till graduation. And let me tell you, the questions I've raised were never even considered. The earth is sphere, it spins on its axis, it attracts object thrown upward, that is as far as it get.
Do a small experiment, when you're sitting in a forward moving car, throw a coin upward inside the car.
Does the coin moves backward?But how does this work? The interior of the moving car is not analogous to the exterior of a moving earth. The only conceivable explanation I've found is that the earth's atmosphere is rotating at the same speed as the earth itself. But this seem like a long shot.
It's also inline with the cosmological view of the surrounding people. (Jews, Egyptians, Babylonian / Persians, Greek / Byzantium Romans etc..) 1400 years ago.
They think sky is a roof, star is a lamp fixed on the ceiling of the sky (and they don't know the differences between star and planet) and a falling star is a missile thrown by Gods/Angels to chase away eavesdropping devil.
I've been reading ancient tafsirs lately, and this does seem like how they understood space through the Qur'an. I'll keep digging.
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God created this earth and the heavens and whatever between them with a strong purpose and not to play around... What is the purpose? To place the Men and Jinn on this earth and test them and find out who is more good in actions and to reward them in the end and meanwhile destroy what He created and produce another better than this earth... Isn't that the summary....
So to do this God had to create this entire things 14 billion years ago... While human in this earth they claim 200000 years.... (not my details these are accepted truth of those who say earth is ball.).. So God took to achieve his purpose of creation 14 billion years... And he created out of this gigantic so called universe a tiny mote... And rest of the others such a waste.... Is that what God says we created earth and heavens and whatever between them with purpose.... While we are on tiny mote so insignificant.... And destroy in the end everything man has never seen.....purposeless How bizzare that is.....Below are what the heliocentric scientist and NASA says... Let's see whether it matches with Quran that is to say with the word of the creator... Does Creator know better or the creation...
In the future, helium will continue to accumulate in the core, and in about 5 billion years this gradual build-up will eventually cause the Sun to exit the main sequence and become a red giant.Earth could continue to host life for at least another 1.75 billion years, as long as nuclear holocaust, an errant asteroid or some other disaster doesn't intervene, a new study calculates. But even without such dramatic doomsday scenarios, astronomical forces will eventually render the planet uninhabitable.
How old is sun? 4.603 billion years
How old is Earth? 4.543 billion years
Strangely myth of universe.. How old is that? As you know ..... 13.8 billion years...
Now compare this with this verse...
2130 "" Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe""Let's look How many days it took for God to create the entire heavens and Earth? That's 6 days (days of God)
So let's see the gap between the universe beginning to earth and sun ....
....... 13.8 minus 4.63 = 9.197 billion years difference for sun to get into shape since the universe beginning......... 13.8 minus 4.543 = 9.257 billion years difference for earth to get shape since universe beginning....
......4.603 minus 4.543 = 0.06 billion years after only earth has begun after sun....
Is that what Quran says.... God is so week to take billions of years to create this earth and heaven..... Then how can we trust the same God once destroyed this entire thing that He would take another 14 billion years..... after all these years men and jinn will be put into hell.... That's God's goal.... Oh how foolish that looks...
Now let's see when the lives of this very earth distinguish.. It is another 1.75 billion years.... So after another 1.75 billion years only the earth will be defunct ..... But God says the end days are nearing many verses... 1.75 billion years for earth is not nearing of End... Simply we can call it eternal.....
God says this worlds life is nothing but the life hereafter is eternal... But looking at these numbers this world is eternal....
Now look when sun dies... 5 billion years after... Wow that's so strange... So earth is gone and sun last another billions of years....
Is that what Quran says... Doesn't quran says All happens at once...Here is the real Magic....
Stars..... When will they die..... ????
""" Even the dimmest stars, the cool red dwarfs will use up their fuel ? although, it might taken another 10 trillion years or so. They too will turn into black dwarfs. And so, in about 100 trillion years from now, every star in the Universe, large and small, will be a black dwarf"""""
Did u see that... Not billions but trillions....It looks like if we believe all these heliocentric and their craps... The day of ressurection will never come.... God must be kidding by saying its near.... After very Cooly they made the God forgotten thing and made simply insignificant.....
People pls use your wits.... Are these looks stupid to anyone who believe in God.... Research.... Pls bring your researches and show to people the reality....
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What about the below crap... Dear believers who believe in flat earth.. Pls ponder...
In about 50 billion years, the Moon will stop moving away from us and settle into a nice, stable orbit. At this point, the Moon will take about 47 days to go around the Earth (currently, it takes a little over 27 days). When this new stability is achieved, the Earth and the Moon will be tidally locked to each other.
Now compare this with these two verses...
936 """ Indeed, the number of months with Allah is twelve months in the register of Allah the day He created the heavens and the earth;.......... ... """
2189 """"They ask you, about the new moons. Say, "They are measurements of time for the people ..... ...""""
Now the day earth and heavens created the moon runs as it was commanded .... These Actornauts claim that moon will take 47 days after 50 billion years..... Lies after lies... Let's hope that this moon and earth remain for another 50 billion years.... Wait a minute now 14 billion years already gone... Hmm ... So altogether 64 billion years....funny thing is God sealed the prophets with Mohamed 1400 years back... And still billions of years to go....my Gosh... Poor people of future. .....And our clowns hypocrites believe it and challenge the Quran.... There is limit for insanity... Either believe the crap totally or leave the Quran.... As of those mentally ill people left from the path of God to Atheism after believing in astronomy .... That's the end of those who believe in NASA and Simmultanously say we believe in Quran.... Their end is hilarious and pathetic...
812 ""When the stars turn dim/ scatter/ fall"""
To see this wait for another 100 Trillions years... .... God needed to warn this before trillions of years back..... That's funny...
Don't be amazed by these numbers... These are the same people who say Sun is 93 million miles away... .... They have made all numbering far from the reach of common people in order to hide their conspiracy come out... -
Peace jkhan.
What is time?
Irrelevant to GOD.
Is it not a fact that there was a time when the human being was nothing to be mentioned?How long was the human nothing to be mentioned before? Trillions of years? more?...
A day can be 50000 years or 1000years or more or less ..? It depends on the period GOD talks about.
The 6 days that GOD created the earth and our universe could have been billions,why not?To god belongs the future, it has infinite years. GOD creates and changes and keeps on creating and changing. How long each creation lasts is up to GOD.
This does not change shapes of things or the vastness of things or adds or takes away years from the predtermined time allocated.
For GOD things are near, for us things are far.
Innahum Yarawnahu Baeedan Wa Narahu Kareeban.
GOD bless you.
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peace, suggest study basic math and physics
new generation of GPS satellites launching
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=iShK3QubGWshttps//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNKgCmzdOMo
I suggest you do the same. Or even use simple observation. And the fact that you get your information from known fake sources like CNN and CBS tells us that you're either brainwashed and still asleep or a shill that's deliberately spreading misinformation. And good thing for you is that I have three proofs that the earth can't be spherical according to basic physics! So I challenge you to refute them, or even better, don't waste your time in vain and instead accept the simple and obvious scientific fact that the surface of the earth is concave and not a sphere as i'll prove again in this thread like I did in the other one, God willing.
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The surface of bodies of water like lakes and the ocean are always flat including water that we pour into containers. If the earth were a sphere then the surface of the ocean would have to bend around the outside and there isn't a single experiment to demonstrate that which means its an unscientific delusion that contradicts the physics of water. And if you claim that gravity is making it do that then that's a false belief and the fact remains. Otherwise, show us with an experiment that a static body of water can reside on the outside of a sphere (like globe theorists assume the ocean is doing). But we already know you'd be wasting your time because that's irrational and impossible.
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We can see objects across the flat surface of the ocean at distances that would put those objects below the horizon if the earth was curved. One short example is the Rogers Center across Lake Ontario which is 30 miles across and would produce a 455 drop according to earth curve calculators. The Rogers Center is only 282 feet tall and we can observe the entire building. So either we're looking at the actual object, which is the simplest and most rational explanation, or we're viewing an illusionary city that's floating over 600 feet in the middle of the air that's magically aligned with the horizon. The former is reality while the later contradicts occam's razor and is nothing but a desperate attempt that insane people use to try and deny the obvious.
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Globe theorists believe that the earth is spinning over a thousand miles per hour and the atmosphere is spinning with it. Except once you reach a certain altitude then there is no atmosphere and the earth would appear to spin rapidly below us, but it doesn't do that according to videos of high altitude aircraft and simple logic. Nor is the air, and especially lighter gasses like helium, dense enough to push those objects to keep up with it. And planes couldn't change directions without facing the speed of those winds.
These simple facts are more than enough to prove that the spinning globe theory is unscientific and false and that the surface of the earth is relatively concave and stationary to contain the water with edges higher than the center at minimum. Not to mention mountains of other evidence.
In the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful
8817 Will they not look at the camels, how were they created?
8818 And to the sky, how was it raised?
8819 And to the mountains, how were they set?
8820 And to the land, how was it flattened?
3110 He created the sky without pillars that you can see. And He cast onto the earth stabilizers so that it would not tumble with you, and He spread on it all kinds of creatures. And We sent down water from the sky, thus We caused to grow all kinds of good plants.
1611 He brings forth with it the vegetation and the olives and the palm trees and the grapes, and of all the fruits; in that are signs for a people who think.
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I suggest you do the same.
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The surface of bodies of water like lakes and the ocean are always flat including water that we pour into containers.
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We can see objects across the flat surface of the ocean at distances that would put those objects below the horizon if the earth was curved.
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Globe theorists believe that the earth is spinning over a thousand miles per hour and the atmosphere is spinning with it.
8820 And to the land, how was it flattened?
3110 so that it would not tumble with you
I did study have high degrees in computing and math favorite subject since childhood includes physics likewise visited many national laboratories e.g. Lawrence Livermore and NASA. (1736) Fermi Labs and NASA have tours open to public suggest visit.
- The earth is very large and if you were a giant held it in your hands the mountains and deepest oceans would not be as the groves of your finger tips.
The Deep Underground Neutrino Experiment (beams cut through earth).
http//www.dunescience.org/
https//youtu.be/nv13DswIKr8
Eratosthenes (mathematician) of Cyrene c. 276 BC calculated circumference of the Earth by simple means looking at shadows cast and angle -- he was off by only ~15% (1736) likewise you too can do same experiment
- (1736) simply go and try it!
http//www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm
30 miles = 158,400 feet
distance to the horizon 15.4 miles?Rogers center dome is 559 feet above Lake Ontario.
distance to the horizon 29 miles (getting closer!)the other side land would be ~5ft above lake surface
let?s say that you're eye level ~5ft above that as well
observation height = (5+5) 10 feet
distance to the horizon 2.7 milestherefore 29 + 2.7 = 31.7 miles to the horizon!
move away another 2 miles see it disappear!- not theory fact!
8820 and toward the land how suihat/spread out
3110 an/that shake with you
2130 do they not see the ones reject they of anna (i.e. ?an inna?/that indeed) the skies (celestial realms) and the land be dual sewn of so ripped we them dual and made we of from the water every thing live then so not believing 2131 and made we of in the land firm peaks an/that shake with them and made we of therein wide/ravine of paths of perhaps they guided being
an (lest/that)
anna ?an inna" (that indeed)
inna (indeed)
in (if/not use context)peace!
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I did study have high degrees in computing and math favorite subject since childhood includes physics likewise visited many national laboratories e.g. Lawrence Livermore and NASA. (1736) Fermi Labs and NASA have tours open to public suggest visit.
- The earth is very large and if you were a giant held it in your hands the mountains and deepest oceans would not be as the groves of your finger tips.
The Deep Underground Neutrino Experiment (beams cut through earth).
http//www.dunescience.org/
https//youtu.be/nv13DswIKr8
Eratosthenes (mathematician) of Cyrene c. 276 BC calculated circumference of the Earth by simple means looking at shadows cast and angle -- he was off by only ~15% (1736) likewise you too can do same experiment
- (1736) simply go and try it!
http//www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm
30 miles = 158,400 feet
distance to the horizon 15.4 miles?Rogers center dome is 559 feet above Lake Ontario.
distance to the horizon 29 miles (getting closer!)the other side land would be ~5ft above lake surface
let?s say that you're eye level ~5ft above that as well
observation height = (5+5) 10 feet
distance to the horizon 2.7 milestherefore 29 + 2.7 = 31.7 miles to the horizon!
move away another 2 miles see it disappear!- not theory fact!
8820 and toward the land how suihat/spread out
3110 an/that shake with you
2130 do they not see the ones reject they of anna (i.e. ?an inna?/that indeed) the skies (celestial realms) and the land be dual sewn of so ripped we them dual and made we of from the water every thing live then so not believing 2131 and made we of in the land firm peaks an/that shake with them and made we of therein wide/ravine of paths of perhaps they guided being
an (lest/that)
anna ?an inna" (that indeed)
inna (indeed)
in (if/not use context)peace!
- You still didn't provide an experiment to demonstrate your belief that a flat surface body of water can curve around the outside of a sphere and reside on the bottom. So until you can do that, which you can't because its a delusion that contradicts reality, then the globe theory is unscientific and false since we already have a working model (not CGI or drawings) for a concave surface. And calculating the angles of shadows doesn't demonstrate that the earth is a sphere either.
Its ironic that you quote 1736 while failing to use your eyesight to observe the flat horizon and surface of water.
"Lake Ontario elevation is 243 feet. The base elevation of the Rogers Center is 267 feet, making the total height of the Rogers Centre 306 feet above the lake."
https//www.google.com/search?q=how+high+is+rogers+center+above+lake+ontario&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b- Your math is ambiguous and off. The Rogers Center is 282 feet tall on the other side of the lake and the lake is 30 miles across which means the horizon is 3.8 miles and the target would be 455 feet below the horizon due to curvature with a 10 foot observer height. https//dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=30&h0=10&unit=imperial - Check it yourself or use a different calculator if you want. Yet we can see 200 feet of it at minimum above the horizon (white building - https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=__liPsAYnJs). And part of the bottom is only covered due to refraction and its still not entirely invisible like it would be if there was a curve.
- So you didn't provide an experiment to demonstrate the theory of an ocean covering a sphere.
- You didn't explain how an object that should be completely hidden can be seen across the lake. (The reason we can see it is because its actually there and the surface is flat. And there's other examples on Youtube of even farther distances.)
- And you didn't explain how planes can fly in multiple directions with winds that are moving a thousand miles an hour with a supposed spinning earth. Or why it doesn't spin below us while flying at the highest possible altitudes without an atmosphere.
So my original arguments remain as true and concrete proofs that the globe theory is nonsense while the surface of the earth is concave and stationary. And instead of continuing to argue against it in vain, just accept the truth for the sake of your own sanity and simply say, "Ok that makes sense, i'll look into it". And i'll respect you and congratulate you without arrogance or rubbing it in your face for having the courage and honesty to question what you've been taught.
In the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful
1736 And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of; for the hearing, eyesight, and heart - all these you are responsible for.
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^^^ jump in car use GPS guided by 4 of 24 satellites orbiting earth go there use cheap binoculars verify yourself take pictures moving away every few miles or take a plane ride to the poles ie get out of the house!
peace!
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^^^ jump in car use GPS guided by 4 of 24 satellites orbiting earth go there use cheap binoculars verify yourself take pictures moving away every few miles or take a plane ride to the poles ie get out of the house!
peace!
Take your own advice and go outside to see that there's not thousands of objects that weigh 6 tons each floating in the sky besides planes that rely on aerodynamics and buoyancy (That apparently 1000 mph sidewinds from a spinning atmosphere don't seem to affect). Not to mention the ridiculous notion that they never collide or the mathematical impossibility of trying to pick up a signal with a static dish while the supposed object is traveling at over a thousand miles per hour.
And they've been bouncing signals off the ionosphere without the need for "satellites" for decades, which is also used for GPS. https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave
But hey, whatever you wanna believe.
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This question was asked
?If Earth is in a round shape how is the ocean water still staying on Earth rather than slipping into the space?May be if you see a globe on your table, and you put water on it, the water will run across the globe and then leave the globe and hit the ground.
But on Earth, how is the ocean water still staying on Earth rather than slipping into the space?
Read on;
With the globe, if you put your finger on any point on the globe, you can find a tangent plane to the surface of the globe at that point.
If you haven?t learned tangent planes yet, think of a sheet of paper that is stiff and hold it to the globe with one finger pressing the sheet of paper to the globe. That sheet of paper is the tangent plane.Now, you can imagine a gravity vector that points in the direction of the force of gravity from that point. If your kitchen is like mine, the gravity vectors at every point are directed towards the floor. When you let something go in a gravitational field and it is not blocked by other things, it will start to move in the direction of the gravity vector.
Depending on where your point is on the globe, the gravity vector might be pointing to the inside of the globe. For a waterproof globe, the water isn?t going in that direction. However if you project the gravity vector onto the tangent plane, you can have a vector that is on the tangent plane and points to where the water would go.
i.e The water falls to the floor.OK, Imagine you are doing the same thing for the Earth. Standing somewhere on Earth, you imagine a tangent plane -
The gravity vector everywhere on Earth (aside from some very small wiggles) points to the center of the Earth. As you know from geometry, a vector from a point on the surface of a sphere to the center of the sphere is perpendicular to a tangent plane on the surface of the sphere.
So, no matter where you are on Earth, the gravity vector is pointing straight into the globe and since the projection of a perpendicular vector onto a tangent plane is zero, there is no tangential gravitational force on the water. It only goes down!
I guess the key difference is that for the Earth, the gravity vector is towards the center everywhere, whereas for a globe in your kitchen the gravity vector is towards the floor.
i.e water on earth does not spill to space.
GOD bless.
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This question was asked
?If Earth is in a round shape how is the ocean water still staying on Earth rather than slipping into the space?May be if you see a globe on your table, and you put water on it, the water will run across the globe and then leave the globe and hit the ground.
But on Earth, how is the ocean water still staying on Earth rather than slipping into the space?
Read on;
With the globe, if you put your finger on any point on the globe, you can find a tangent plane to the surface of the globe at that point.
If you haven?t learned tangent planes yet, think of a sheet of paper that is stiff and hold it to the globe with one finger pressing the sheet of paper to the globe. That sheet of paper is the tangent plane.Now, you can imagine a gravity vector that points in the direction of the force of gravity from that point. If your kitchen is like mine, the gravity vectors at every point are directed towards the floor. When you let something go in a gravitational field and it is not blocked by other things, it will start to move in the direction of the gravity vector.
Depending on where your point is on the globe, the gravity vector might be pointing to the inside of the globe. For a waterproof globe, the water isn?t going in that direction. However if you project the gravity vector onto the tangent plane, you can have a vector that is on the tangent plane and points to where the water would go.
i.e The water falls to the floor.OK, Imagine you are doing the same thing for the Earth. Standing somewhere on Earth, you imagine a tangent plane -
The gravity vector everywhere on Earth (aside from some very small wiggles) points to the center of the Earth. As you know from geometry, a vector from a point on the surface of a sphere to the center of the sphere is perpendicular to a tangent plane on the surface of the sphere.
So, no matter where you are on Earth, the gravity vector is pointing straight into the globe and since the projection of a perpendicular vector onto a tangent plane is zero, there is no tangential gravitational force on the water. It only goes down!
I guess the key difference is that for the Earth, the gravity vector is towards the center everywhere, whereas for a globe in your kitchen the gravity vector is towards the floor.
i.e water on earth does not spill to space.
GOD bless.
Peace.I know that's what you believe. Except there's no working model or experiment to demonstrate it which means that's unscientific conjecture. Science is about observing how things actually behave. And the fact that water always goes down because its denser than the surrounding substance only adds weight to the argument that the earth isn't a sphere floating in space because it would fall off the bottom. Even if you assume that "gravity" could make it stick up side down. That's not how things actually work when we test it. There's also no experiments to demonstrate that mass attracts like the concept of gravity relies on. Set two bowling balls next to each other on a flat surface and watch them do absolutely nothing, as previously explained. Mass alone does not attract. Substances are positioned relative to their density and move up and down simultaneously while fictitious gravity would only pull downward or towards the greatest mass like the earth.
Yet a concave or cup shaped model of the surface works just fine with real experiments to contain the water. Its also the simplest and best explanation. Not to mention how the horizon and static bodies of water like the ocean are completely flat when we observe them like the Qur'an tells us to. Regardless if people make excuses about it being too big to see the curve and despite proof that that's false like my second argument about being able to see objects across distances that would put them well below the horizon if it was curved.
So anyone can "explain" their belief like claiming that there's a giant spiderman in space who's holding the ocean on earth with his web, but that's not the same as being able to prove it with scientific models and experiments. And it comes down to Occam's razor versus conjecture, even if that conjecture seems to make sense. According to science, Occam's razor, basic physics, observation and reasoning among other proofs; the surface must be concave. And we shouldn't be desperately trying to cling to and explain alternate theories that contradict that and can't be demonstrated.
May the peace, mercy and blessings of God be upon you.
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Peace Sultan Brandon.
You mean rocks also fall to the floor?
Throw a rock in the air it falls to the floor but why is the moon above us not falling on you and me?You would say gravity? Gravity is also holding earth and all its contents from crashing/spilling .
Gravity is a force that pulls objects together. Two bodies in space (such as a planet and moon), under the influence of gravity, will move toward each other.
An orbit is a situation where a small object next to a larger object is moving at a velocity such that the gravity between them is balanced by the momentum. The moving object will naturally tend to go in a straight line past the large object, and the gravity will pull it straight towards the large object. When the forces are balanced, the small object will go in a circle around the large one. (There are other factors involved, and few truly circular orbits, but that's what makes an orbit work).
That is how all heavenly bodies are keeping the balance (not crashing into each other).Similarly the centre of the earth is what the water is being pulled to.
Observation counts as experiment brother. GO up there and observe. Or maybe when the space shutte for tourists is up and running(soon?).
GOD bless you.
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Peace Sultan Brandon.
Please allow me to clarify . I am not saying gravity is holding the earth s water from spilling,I am saying thisThe Earth?s mass plays a part in holding the water and the atmosphere in place. Because it creates a large enough pull towards its center of mass to hold the water to its surface. It?s why we don?t go flying off. Objects are pulled towards the center of mass, well, that center of mass is our planet?s core. So, we?re able to stand on the surface of the planet, and the water is able to blanket the surface of the planet.
GOD bless you.
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Peace Sultan Brandon.
You mean rocks also fall to the floor?
Throw a rock in the air it falls to the floor but why is the moon above us not falling on you and me?You would say gravity? Gravity is also holding earth and all its contents from crashing/spilling .
Gravity is a force that pulls objects together. Two bodies in space (such as a planet and moon), under the influence of gravity, will move toward each other.
An orbit is a situation where a small object next to a larger object is moving at a velocity such that the gravity between them is balanced by the momentum. The moving object will naturally tend to go in a straight line past the large object, and the gravity will pull it straight towards the large object. When the forces are balanced, the small object will go in a circle around the large one. (There are other factors involved, and few truly circular orbits, but that's what makes an orbit work).
That is how all heavenly bodies are keeping the balance (not crashing into each other).Similarly the centre of the earth is what the water is being pulled to.
Observation counts as experiment brother. GO up there and observe. Or maybe when the space shutte for tourists is up and running(soon?).
GOD bless you.
Peace.The moon doesn't fall to the earth because its transparent. If it was solid then it would definitely hit the earth since its not moving at a high velocity when we look at it. And if you say, "It looks slow because its far away" then that's false because there's no evidence of that and contradicts what we actually observe. Its also why you can see stars through it and where the star within the crescent symbol comes from https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7g9A5MkY2Y
Observation is not the same as experimentation. An experiment is demonstrating and replicating a phenomena with materials and devices, not simply looking at things.
Did you personally go to space to observe the earth? No. Which means you're trusting images from proven liars who admit to photoshopping composites of the earth and using the clone tool to duplicate clouds (Here's the voice of someone from NASA literally saying that https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOFimSy1Bg). Along with the colors and sizes of continents changing every year in their "pictures". That's not personal observation. Personal observation is looking at a flat horizon and flat surface of water for yourself and accepting that simple reality, or not.
You say mass is causing gravity to hold the water. But where is the proof that mass attracts? Refer to my bowling ball example. Even the cavendish experiment is nonsense where nothing happens without human interference, air currents or tension in the string. So its proof that mass doesn't attract and its false to assume otherwise. Attraction and repulsion is an electromagnetic phenomena that can be replicated consistently besides vertical orientation due to relative density and displacement.
So i'm not sure why you try so hard to hold on to the globe theory. Maybe you just don't wanna "lose" the argument at this point? Even though I would congratulate you instead of being arrogant. Or maybe you fear being criticized and labeled by hypocritical idiots? I don't. I'd rather know and accept the truth, God willing. Either way, I don't think there's much more to say and there's plenty of resources for further evidence and information but i'll read your replies. Thanks for the discussion. Peace.
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Peace Sultan Brandon.
Does going into space to observe not benefit both you and me? It means you will be sure.For me, all the signs , Science,day, night,time and seasons point to "spaceship earth" taking us on a journey brother.
I wonder how time will exist without motion.
Also I do not know what you mean by ,quote
The moon doesn't fall to the earth because its transparent.
Has it not got rocks on it?
Anyway, thank you also for the conversation.
GOD bless you.
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Peace kaltun.
Here are more
I wonder if someone has no limbs ,how they going to pray?.
I wonder if someone has an emergency to attend to, how are they going to pray?.
I wonder if someone is on the moon, how are they going to pray.?
I wonder if someone is at the north pole, how are they going to pray?
...etc.
All these have been taken care of in Qoran, if one is not capable or enable to be on earth or...Then they are excused. They do it in their head if they can or not at all. GOD is forgiver most merciful.The deen is not about rules and regulations ,it is about intentions , good morals and good work first and foremost.
The other helping items are there for the ones that can . each needs to follow GOD s instructions to the best of their abilities.
We cannot fool GOD or look for excuses. GOD is aware of each one of us . whether we are capable, where we are and whether we hear and obey him .
Or do you think we are left without GOD distinguishing our honesty and true intentions?
GOD bless you.
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Slm Goodlogic,
if one is not capable or enable to be on earth or...Then they are excused.
good answer )The deen is not about rules and regulations ,it is about intentions , good morals and good work first and foremost.
or i didnt understand you or you did error on this ....
The deen is not about rules and regulations ==> i see Quran as rules and regulations ...
intentions ==> agree
good morals==> agree
good work ==> agreeWe cannot fool GOD or look for excuses.
we fool our self first without knowing