Pork is HALAL

Mahdi_Ibrahim

And why should I give a damn about what was forbidden to them or not?

Because

The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is also halal for you ... anyone who rejects iman (in halal foods, ie. pork), his actions will COME TO NOTHING and in the Next World he will be among the LOSERS. (55)

The LOSERS

On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030)

Those who have iman/common sense and do natural actions, how few they are! (3824)

good_logic

Peace Mahdi.
Additional items means pork was already not halal before that.
According to your logic blood should also be halal since it is not mentioned like meat of pork?
You are making a simple mistake of ignoring context.
Or GOD has also forgotten to say blood?
For me flesh of pork is also forbidden, makes sense.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Mahdi_Ibrahim

Or GOD has also forgotten to say blood?
For me flesh of pork is also forbidden, makes sense.

How many root words for blood?

Is blood consistent with dead animal?

Is fresh pork consistent with fresh meat?

pork

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beef

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Abaddon

Brother, you have a one eyed methodology. Just like Rashad Khalifa had. The Qur'an cant be understood by using pure logic. Iblees also used pure logic. Stop it.

Mahdi_Ibrahim

Irrelevant, because it is with proofs and evidences...

Say, "This is my "Islam". "My Islam" is with proofs and evidences! I, as well as those who follow me, call you towards Allah/TRUTH (ie. call you towards proofs and evidences)". (1210

Mahdi_Ibrahim

The Qur'an cant be understood by using pure logic. Iblees also used pure logic

The Sunnatullah/Way of Allah/Nature is ALWAYS LOGICAL in EVERYTHING IT DOES... Pure Logic, The Law of Cause and Effect. The enemy of the Sunnatullah/Way of Allah/Nature/Logic is Iblees.

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On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030)

"We know that God exists because mathematics is consistent and we know that the devil/Iblees exists because we cannot prove the consistency." -- Andre Weil

good_logic

Peace Mahdi.
Dead animals is not blood. I do not know what you mean?
They are two different things.
Read in context 6145 and 6146.... GOD is saying for the Jews, because of their insolence, more was forbidden for them.
Qpran then listed the things that were forbidden for the Jews but halal for the believers . Qoran did not list the common forbidden items of both in 6146.
Proof, the list of 6146 are not forbidden in Qoran . Or do you say the fat of sheep and cattle are forbidden?

You also will have a problem with "the meat of animals dedicated to other than God." it is not mentioned in 6146 according to the logic you are following with 6146.

GOD bless you.
Peace.

Mahdi_Ibrahim

Dead animals is not blood. I do not know what you mean?
They are two different things.

This is what I mean... is this consistent?

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Abaddon

There is no logic in transmutation and miracles. Its pure Intuition. Allah is not one eyed. Stop spreading your "scientism islam". The Intellect is not everything. Its intuition which completes our soul. Use all of your brain capacities.

good_logic

Peace Mahdi.
Then,your translation of "Lhma Al Khinzeer is a problem. If you say it means Maggoty stinking meat then what about maggoty stinking fat?
Surely by your logic if Qoran does not forbid it then it is halal!!!
Or should I say bring me a verse that says "Shahma al Khinzeer is forbidden?
Bad food, maggoty stinking food, food you do not like are common sense. They come under "not Tayibat". Eat only"Tayibat" food.
GOD bless you.
Peace..

Mahdi_Ibrahim

There is no logic in transmutation and miracles. Its pure Intuition. Allah is not one eyed. Stop spreading your "scientism islam". The Intellect is not everything. Its intuition which completes our soul. Use all of your brain capacities.

Show me one thing from this universe without the LordLaw of Cause & Effect (is Logical)?

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Mahdi_Ibrahim

Peace Mahdi.
Then,your translation of "Lhma Al Khinzeer is a problem. If you say it means Maggoty stinking meat then what about maggoty stinking fat?
Surely by your logic if Qoran does not forbid it then it is halal!!!
Or should I say bring me a verse that says "Shahma al Khinzeer is forbidden?
Bad food, maggoty stinking food, food you do not like are common sense. They come under "not Tayibat". Eat only"Tayibat" food.
GOD bless you.
Peace..

It said "maggotty".

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good_logic

Peace Mahdi.
You said maggoty?
So Lahma Al Khinzeer means just maggoty?
I thought Lahma means meat. And Shama means fat!
So Lahma Al Khinzeer is maggoty meat?
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Mahdi_Ibrahim

If it is meat, without maggotty.. then it is HALAL.

pork

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beef

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good_logic

Peace Mahdi.
What about if it fat but maggoty is it forbidden?
Do you see your problem now?
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Mahdi_Ibrahim

The subject matter is "magotty"

What is my problem?

good_logic

Peace Mahdi.
Either you are now pretending you do not understand the issue or you are deviating. If you say, quote

The subject matter is "magotty"

I have already clarified for you here

You said maggoty?
So Lahma Al Khinzeer means just maggoty?
I thought Lahma means meat. And Shama means fat!
So Lahma Al Khinzeer is maggoty meat?

And here

What about if it fat but maggoty is it forbidden?
Do you see your problem now?

I am saying your translation is problematic if you follow your logic because Qoran has not forbidden "maggoty stinking fat"!
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Mahdi_Ibrahim

Who can eat this?

dead animal

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magoty stinking meat

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Mahdi_Ibrahim

What about if it fat but maggoty is it forbidden?
Do you see your problem now?

It said magoty..

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not necessarily meat alone, but also to date and walnut.

and here is the word meat/flesh

http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=35798

magoty + flesh/meat

so what is my problem?

good_logic

Peace Mahdi.
You know you have not answered the problem you have..
Actually you are now deliberately repeating the same thing.

Here is my two questions again then
Maggoty meat according to you is "Lahma Al Khinzeer" yes/no?

What is maggoty fat in Arabic and is it forbidden? It should be "Shahma al Khinzeer" if you follow the same translation.

GOD bless you.
Peace.