Issue with Salat/ prayer
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yes, although we explain to benefit others perhaps; need "time out" forum for the ignorant.
2855 and when hear they of the nonsense turns away they of from it and said they of for us deeds ours and for you deeds yours peace upon you! not we seek the ignorant
Peace..
Quran shouldn't be judged with human made ludicrous genders which differs country to country...judge quran within quran...https//alphaomegatranslations.com/foreign-language/the-importance-of-gender-in-languages/
https//www.quora.com/Is-the-moon-masculine-or-feminine
https//www.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/14acd2/the_word_shams_sun_is_feminine_and_qamar_moon_is/
http//www.lionpath.net/zwoelf.html
All these are sheer nonsense based on each communities belief and culture..
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yes, although we explain to benefit others perhaps; need "time out" forum for the ignorant.
2855 and when hear they of the nonsense turns away they of from it and said they of for us deeds ours and for you deeds yours peace upon you! not we seek the ignorant
lol
i already felt it and predicted it too.i m still laughing he said all r draging WAKAS tail and wakas is confused himself. i hope wakas will gona laugh before passing any comment. i dnt remember if wakas having a tail hmm
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Thank you wakas.
Some ,for whatever reason, accept that day can have parts where brightness of the sun is weaker or stronger like morning .midday...
But think that night is only the dark period! Like dawn is part of the day to them?
In this case there are at least 5 parts to the day but only one part to the night.
Yet they never stop to think /ponder this!
GOD bless you.
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Thank you wakas.
Some ,for whatever reason, accept that day can have parts where brightness of the sun is weaker or stronger like morning .midday...
But think that night is only the dark period! Like dawn is part of the day to them?
In this case there are at least 5 parts to the day but only one part to the night.
Yet they never stop to think /ponder this!
GOD bless you.
Peace.Dear Brother GL a question away from Night and day but kind of personal but still relevant with Salat topic...
If you think you are going in line with the understanding of Waqas and you both agree that night start at sunset and day starts at sunrise... then... Why both of you contradict in the same topic while waqas choose two salat and you choose 5 ?...
What went wrong for both of you? Why not either waqas change to 5 or you change to two handshake -
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wakas didnt choose anything he claimed whats there in Book called Quran in a catagorised way.
1 salat ul fajar ( Time sala)
2 salat ul isha ( Time sala )3 Al salwat ul wusta (cetral/markazi salawat).
people who are adding more to it mean they are choosing more salwat with their own wish.
i m sorry i have to change my thinking as per the clear picture of your learning skills.
you need atleast TEN years undertanding what wakas is saying in all of his articles linking one thing to another, why you putting a burden in ur head what u cant handle? do pity urself and ur brain if its not understanding a simple case. just undertand what work u can get from brain like making pakoras or samosas something like that,whoever gave u advice of researching is ur enemy and it already done you over rotfl
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Peace jkhan.
You say, quoteDear Brother GL a question away from Night and day but kind of personal but still relevant with Salat topic...
If you think you are going in line with the understanding of Waqas and you both agree that night start at sunset and day starts at sunrise... then... Why both of you contradict in the same topic while waqas choose two salat and you choose 5 ?...
What went wrong for both of you? Why not either waqas change to 5 or you change to twoI also do not agree with you on how many Salat a day. Does that mean I change to yours or you change to mine?
But you are saying wakas and me agree on this clear grammar of Qoran; IT in the verses is the SUN. The issue is why do you disagree with it? You have not come up with a logical answer.
It does not matter where wakas and me agree or disagree on other matters. We are talking about day and night according to the verses mentioned.
GOD bless you.
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Peace jkhan.
You say, quoteDear Brother GL a question away from Night and day but kind of personal but still relevant with Salat topic...
If you think you are going in line with the understanding of Waqas and you both agree that night start at sunset and day starts at sunrise... then... Why both of you contradict in the same topic while waqas choose two salat and you choose 5 ?...
What went wrong for both of you? Why not either waqas change to 5 or you change to twoI also do not agree with you on how many Salat a day. Does that mean I change to yours or you change to mine?
But you are saying wakas and me agree on this clear grammar of Qoran; IT in the verses is the SUN. The issue is why do you disagree with it? You have not come up with a logical answer.
It does not matter where wakas and me agree or disagree on other matters. We are talking about day and night according to the verses mentioned.
GOD bless you.
Peace.This is not other matter as you claim. Salat is based on the movement of sun.. Sun guides for timing... Without sun and it's brightness world is under darkness... So sun and brightness decides Day and night to the earth... So you guys are in a concerted meaning and understanding of sun in Quran.... So when it comes to Salat why it goes contradictory... Hope both living in the same world if not in Midnight sun locations... Lol
BTW... I never agreed with u... So I am already contradictory with your and waqas's understanding.... That's irrelevant.... If you like to answer okay.. If not fine.. I don't want increase Your BP.... And I know it's hard to change after ages...
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correction
wakas didnt choose anything he claimed whats there in Book called Quran in a catagorised way.
1 salat ul fajar ( Time sala)
2 salat ul isha ( Time sala )3 Al salwat ul wusta (cetral/markazi salawat).
people who are adding more to it mean they are choosing more salwat with their own wish.
i m sorry i have to change my thinking as per the clear picture of your learning skills.
you need atleast TEN years undertanding what wakas is saying in all of his articles linking one thing to another, why you putting a burden in ur head what u cant handle? do pity urself and ur brain if its not understanding a simple case. just undertand what work u can get from brain like making pakoras or samosas something like that,whoever gave u advice of researching is ur enemy and it already done you over rotfl
I wonder why the tail comes out first before the head... Yes.. It's the habit of those who hang on... Forgetting where they hang...
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Peace to all
Are these not classes of night?
Dark Night
Layl muzliman the dark night 10/27Night
Layl the night 11/81, 15/65Peace...
Of course night has stages of darkness... Don't you see it naturally... Not only night has stages but night differs season to season and even within a month... If full moon there it is not a dark night.... But still night.... When the first twilight is over I mean civil twilight... You can see the darkness trying to cover the brightness.... At the dawn the opposite... Every moment it brightens..... When the civil light of dawn. Appeared... There is no sign of night... Even you see the sun rise or not... Or a cloudy day...
Breaking fast based on the assumption of sun set is always tricky.... You will never know unless you have the horizon.... But no need to bother to breakfast at night. When civil light over... Simply you need assistance of artificial light Evey moment you pass on -
Its a pity that Allah did not give clear timing and other details for the most important ritual in His last communication to the mankind. He left it open for poor humans to argue, debate and find their own ways of performing the ritual. bravo bravo bravo
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Its a pity that Allah did not give clear timing and other details for the most important ritual in His last communication to the mankind. He left it open for poor humans to argue, debate and find their own ways of performing the ritual. bravo bravo bravo
Peace Everyone
this particular reply is for those who ask for clear indications of everything... First of all God created this world and didn't put a signature on the sky ... Creator of this is GOD... everything is left for the human and Jinn to research ... salat verses are clearly indicated or not is left with the search and if anyone is screened behind it without being able to perceive... that's unfortunate...
God created animals and told us it is lawful with some exception... Did God explain us saying you should eat by cooking, baking, steaming frying... That's option and preference with god gifted knowledge...
So God's preference in everything is to research and find out the truth ... That's why this peculiar book itself entirely different to all human made books which are straightforward complying with the topic...But God's book is almost like hilarious if one read it first time... it won't take you with one mind set... the taste of it only could be grasped by those who reads it again and again... Any book in my life which i have read is only once and never tried to read it again... but God's book how many times i read, i feel like i never read it before...
There is no point by any believer who claim that God has not unfortunately explained this and that... if explained then that's it .. if not explained then that is not part of book...
This is a common message and not personal to anyone.. but to all who wants more from the book while book is detailed... -
Example of fake ?example? rotfl
God created animals and told us it is lawful with some exception... Did God explain us saying you should eat by cooking, baking, steaming frying...
so you trying to say therez nothing mention about cooking of animals?
it showing ur knowledge is more weaker then i expected.here u go.
do u remember when abraham bring the ?roasted calf ? for malaika hmm yes eat
i just cant stop rotfl when i read ur full post when u said u read it many times ? haha oh my gosh ok did u see now the book of god is saying u same thing i.e lack of care while reading the book or lack of understanding.
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Example of fake ?example? rotfl
so you trying to say therez nothing mention about cooking of animals?
it showing ur knowledge is more weaker then i expected.here u go.
do u remember when abraham bring the ?roasted calf ? for malaika hmm yes eat
i just cant stop rotfl when i read ur full post when u said u read it many times ? haha oh my gosh ok did u see now the book of god is saying u same thing i.e lack of care while reading the book or lack of understanding.
Man....
Ibrahim's roasted calf is his own preference .... and not law of God.. he would roast it or bake it... No need instructions.... How people found out the tree of fire .. all by experiment and they found out to roast or broth ... just simply use your wits..
your knowledge is so weak with your arrogance and adamant approach in only targeting people like me... your history is such a worse when i read waqas's last link... just you have been doing this with people for ages... they all looked innocent.... I don't blame waqas.. but you are hidden inside his cloth whether he is right or wrong... I appreciate waqas at the same time i criticize him... coz i am looking for truth and not important who waqas is but what he says is in line with quran or not is what is important... till doubt clears i will challenge any such people... if they get out of my questions and neglect by sticking only to one thing that shows there is something wrong in the mentality be it waqas or any one.. no chance of adhering to scholars blindly... but you are such a toy... dancing to the tune of your icons ... ...
Just i thought i can be friendly with you by seeing your post few weeks back... but you are someone loving in being arrogant and insulting others .... just scroll and see how many people you keep doing this with... sheer self pride... God bless you at least before your death... arrogance and pride is only for the Creator of everything... -
arrogance and pride is only for the Creator of everything...
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may God give u peace in heart.
i decide not to continue debate with you at this point of thinking. u ll never see any advice and critical point from my side again. have a nice life. -
When Allah gives commands in His detailed book it is like this
6151-152
Say come I recite you what is haram for you
That do not associate with Him anything
and with parents be good
and do not kill your children for poverty, we provide you and them
Do not go near the "fawahisha" whether apparent or hidden
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and do not kill anyone except with the truth, Allah has made it haram, this is advised to you may be you could save yourself.
and do not go near the belongings of orphans except for what is good untill they reach maturity
and give your weight and measure with justice..........
and when you say something then do justice even if someone is near
and fulfil your contract with Allah
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this is advised to you , may be you remember it.
So commands are clear and anyone can follow them which is doing salat and giving growth and purity to society.
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may God give u peace in heart.
i decide not to continue debate with you at this point of thinking. u ll never see any advice and critical point from my side again. have a nice life.Peace...
that's a relief.... i am not bothered you reply or not... but i will always learn from anyone.. even from you...
At least be stick to what you said "I decide not to continue debate with you .." Thank you.. that will definitely help to preserve each and every topics and thread abide to its value... whenever you reply to me is only spoiling the whole thing... going far from the topic and keep mocking...Why ARROGANCE is highlighted.... can't God be arrogant... definitely He is unless u don't know the meaning of arrogance..
Arrogance Having or revealing sense of one's own importance or capacities.
God can do what He likes.. we are not to ask why... God can destroy anything... if you spent entire life to build a house and he can destroy it with a whirlwind or hurricane... regardless why it was done.. God knows what he does... He can send anyone astray and can guide anyone... no one can ask why...
He can tell i created everything and call us slave and to make sujud to him...
He destroy all effort of people to grow things and destroy since they didn't say In Sha Allah...
He deserve any kind of quality of behavior.. we are not in a position to question... meantime He is not equal to anyone's kindness..God is unique...
Wish you won't disturb any other the same way you disturbed me which gave no meaning to any of the member for the purpose they are in the forum....
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Peace...
Of course night has stages of darkness... Don't you see it naturally... Not only night has stages but night differs season to season and even within a month... If full moon there it is not a dark night.... But still night.... When the first twilight is over I mean civil twilight... You can see the darkness trying to cover the brightness.... At the dawn the opposite... Every moment it brightens..... When the civil light of dawn. Appeared... There is no sign of night... Even you see the sun rise or not... Or a cloudy day...
Breaking fast based on the assumption of sun set is always tricky.... You will never know unless you have the horizon.... But no need to bother to breakfast at night. When civil light over... Simply you need assistance of artificial light Evey moment you pass onSalam jkhan
If civil twilight after sunset is part of nahar then HA in 91/4 is not referring to the sun because it is was already covered during nahar.
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Peace jkhan.
Now you are just arguing your case with no reason.
Brother Mahdi does it in his threads and you are following his example.
End of replies from me here on the sun ,day and night.
Thank you.
GOD bless you.
Peace.
