gay people and islam

unknownuser

peace peaceful-muslim. Your responses were well founded and accurate.
You also did us a favour by pointing out some 'erratic' posts.(and defending tolerance). Im sure some people will agree with you,and some will dis-agree.That is the nature of people and discussion. Take it easy.
Peace all.

unknownuser

This thread is now due for closure...

Regards,

unknownuser

Peace be upon you Ahmed,

What was he comment that was made to you?

Good morning bro

just had a couple of hours of sleep and actually could not sleep well becauise of what happened last night

firstly I can't see that I did anything wrong, but I'm sure all the members who will see the Quran message I'm posting unpopular will come togehther in arms and in their wagen trying hard to mauipulate the facts

if you look a few pages back, you will see where things went wrong

I was directing a comment to elena and stated that if homosexuality was not prohibited we ( I menat the hetros ) may be like them and sleeping with them, thiis was just a sacrcastic comment and you will see that I addedd a smiley face straight after it

pm came with a very silly comment suggesting that if it is not for the Quran I would have tried it (she said every thing) this will include prostotution, pimping, murder, adultery and bloody everything that is prohibited in the Quran

my response to her was simple

I responded to her silly comment expressing that her comment was stupid and I told her that it seems to me that a homo activist had already tried
then I posted further evidences about the homosexual ridden diseases
and also posted the story of prophet Lut

now where I got it wrong?

for defending myself against a perpetrator who intentionally trying to embaress me, well if this is wrong then I'm proud for committing that wrong

peace be with you

unknownuser

Peace be upon you Ahmed,

What was he comment that was made to you?

here it is bro

please be aware that she responded to a comment that was not directed to her

her only purpose is to embaress me

clear as light mate

I guess she is the one that didnlt respect herself

cheers

unknownuser

The Quran is giving us an example of a hetro who is a homo activist

We read in the story of Lut that his wife went to the homos to call them to her house to see the beautiful men in there, and because she was married toa man (Lut), she has to be a hetro, but it seems that she was also a homo activist, because she invited the homos to her house to see the beautiful men

We can clearly read when the order was given to prophet Lut that to leave the town, his wife was excluded explicitly

Why Allah excluded that woman while she was a hetro then she was destroyed with the homos?

I guess because she is a homo activist

Peace be with any who follows the true guidance

sawtooth

Ahmed, you have to understand that the way you express yourself MAY lead people to believe that you will only do what is directed by the Koran, no more no less. I think you need to understand that and take a look at how you may be being perceived and why.

BTW thank you for the paraphrase in the last post, as the but and paste was getting too tiresome to read and generally causing you to loose your audience I think.

unknownuser

Peace be upon you,

KGB, what part of the "quranic message" says to speak disrespectful to people? If you can show me where there is ANY EXAMPLE of a prophet or messenger speaking the way Ahmed has done, then there will be no problem.

The good response is not equal to the bad response, remember that verse?

I wait to see what verse you provide.

I hope you read it in KJB comment (Thanks KGB, appreciated bro)

and I posted it again

please note her comment was very offensive as she accused me of TRYING EVERY THING, like

stealing which is also prohibited in the Quran
kiling, which is also prohibited in the Quran
Adultry which is also prohibited in the Quran
Homosexuality which is also prohibited in the Quran
all in all, anything that is prohibited in the Quran, she accuse me of committing if it was not for the Quran

see, how rude silly she was?

now I accused her of homosexuality only, and this should not offend her, because she believes being a homosexual is nothing wrong

see how she got it very wrong?

but sure the pack in their wagen will have some effect on the admins, in egypt we used to say the missed shot will make noise at least

bro, I donl;t cri on the spilled milk, I will keep saying the word of truth as it appear in the Quran and I will defend myself hard against anyone who will try to embaress me without any point in hand

peace bro

unknownuser

Look like another person is going to get banned because he is defending the Qur'an message. He is saying what is right not what is popular in the Western societies. So sad Ahmad Baghat I will miss you.

Thank you bro, it is in the hand of Allah mate, not in anyone's hand, if they ban me unjustly, so be it, they will not escape Allah

thanks again for standing for the truth bro, that is what the Quran told us to do

peace be with you

KGB

Salaam Alleikum Brother Ahmed Baghat,

No need to thank me for saying what is right. You went to sleep so I posted that for Kyle and two hours sleep is way too little for comfort.

unknownuser

Ahmed, you have to understand that the way you express yourself MAY lead people to believe that you will only do what is directed by the Koran, no more no less. I think you need to understand that and take a look at how you may be being perceived and why.

BTW thank you for the paraphrase in the last post, as the but and paste was getting too tiresome to read and generally causing you to loose your audience I think.

saw

i don't have an audience, neither I want some

regarding the Quran, of course I express it this way that Islam is the Quran and nothing but the Quran

for the preception, it is only one preception in my book, which is, I'm conveying the message of the Quran "as a muslim" to others when I see it fit, other than that, the audience preception is the least priotity for me

cheers

unknownuser

Salaam Alleikum Brother Ahmed Baghat,

No need to thank me for saying what is right. You went to sleep so I posted that for Kyle and two hours sleep is way too little for comfort.

cheers brother

I could not sleep man, because my precption that PM is a nice and decent woman, but her insitance on opposing the message of the Quran and my insistance on defending the message of the Quran made a few here hate me, but sure I careless about that, I only care about deleivering the message of the Quran when I see it fit

yeh man I could not even sleep those two hours, I have a tooth that is hurting me bad and the next possible appointment is next monday (bloody 8 days away), i donlt know what to do bro, it hurts bad if I drink cold drinks and it stays hurting for amin of 30 min before it cools down, i hope I casn stand those 8 days,

this is rediculous man to be desperate for tooth treatment and they tell you the first possible time is 8 days away, I even thought about going to egypt to do it there if the pai is unbearable and could not find a dentist in australia lol

now it is time to take my 20 month old son to his week end joy ride, he loves it

peace be with you

KGB

Salaam Alleikum Ahmed Baghat,

Don't worry about her. Never get along with her since she joined Free Minds. My differnces with her started when she called Laws of God to be cruel. I only care to say what is right and sure am not very popular member on this forum.

unknownuser

Salaam Alleikum Ahmed Baghat,

Don't worry about her. Never get along with her since she joined Free Minds. My differnces with her started when she called Laws of God to be cruel. I only care to say what is right and sure am not very popular member on this forum.

welocme to unpopularity club brother, I'm proud to join that club with you

peace be with you

zenje

i don't have an audience, neither I want some

regarding the Quran, of course I express it this way that Islam is the Quran and nothing but the Quran...

...my insistance on defending the message of the Quran made a few here hate me, but sure I careless about that, I only care about deleivering the message of the Quran when I see it fit

Peace brother,

Keep it up D

There are a lot of people here who try to portray that we don't need God's words or some go as far as we don't need God. Truly humans are arrogant creatures.

Peace

unknownuser

Peace KGB. What about the verses on back-biting and making peace between muslims in your quran? 499- 49;13. Please quote and explain these to me,if you are promoting the message of quran.
Peace KGB.

KGB

This is not back bitting. I am saying it openly on the open forum without any fear. I have no intentions of getting into end less unproductive disscussion with you Enquirer. Nothing personal I know your views about God Qur'an and thats fine with me.

unknownuser

Peace be upon you KGB,

Backbiting was not the only example extended to you to answer, but it seems it is the only one you addressed.

What about making peace between muslims?

Also, can you show me ONE EXAMPLE of a prophet or messenger speaking disrespcetfully?

KGB

Peace Be Upon You Kyle,

You did not read my reply to Enquirer. I also said that I have no intentions of getting into discussion with Enquirer.

Ask these liberals to learn to respect the words of God and respect the person who is brining out the clear message to prove his point.

I remember you also said that you are done with this topic. wink

savage_carrot

Peace all,

I think some things need to be clarified here. There are two issues. One of being crass towards someone using unnecessary vulgarity and the other...the pressing issue of people giving opinions on threads where people ask for a quranic response and debate. This has been happening for quite some time and is annoying to put it mildly. I have some questions for people...

On many threads that require an answer from a quranic standpoint, I'm seeing opinions from people who don't believe the quran to be authentic let alone one God, inclusive of some who funnily enough haven't even read the quran, yet stumble in for some chat time...

I would understand this to be-

a) We want you to question yourself and what you believe in!

That's fine, just don't interfere with discussions that require a quranic response then, yet this goes on unabated these days. If it was me starting a thread requiring a quranic response and the thread devolved into yet another 'why must we follow the quran?' and 'Hmm what is God after all'... I would be rightly pi$$ed.

b) We want to learn from you!

From what I've read, this is really not going on...questions regarding the quran alone stance are not being asked, rather...let's go to something better, the quran is archaic...a copy of other manmade religions.

c) We want to teach you!

Right. Same response as 'a' then.

d) Why the heck are we even doing this, if not any of the above responses, on a forum that espouses God alone based on the quran?

You got me. I was wondering the same thing.

The underlying point is...it has people wondering where all the serious quran based discussions have gone to...

unknownuser

Peace brother,

Keep it up

There are a lot of people here who try to portray that we don't need God's words or some go as far as we don't need God. Truly humans are arrogant creatures.
Peace

God never spoke any words to any man. All Scripture is an INspiration from within.

Regards,