A Quran related question to Quranists
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Or accept that Quran is not capable to reply to these simple primliminary questions even.
So this means we must follow religious guidance/law outside of the quran? What's wrong with your logic?
We are not discussing other source of religious guidance for the time being.It is too premature.Sorry to say.
D Then peace be upon you. That's all that needed to be said.
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So this means we must follow religious guidance/law outside of the quran? What's wrong with your logic?
Then peace be upon you. That's all that needed to be said.
Suppose a non muslim who is interested in islam , wants to know the anwer of these three question in a scenario in which I have already recited these Quranic Ayaas to him
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How can I answer these question from the Holy Quran ?? -
Peace Leoxyz
The Holy Quran is not a history book. It is guidance on how we should live our life.If history is so unimportant
Then why Quran narrated the History of jews in such detail history when it is irrelavent to guidance?When the muslims do not know answer of such three preliminary simple question ,then what about the claim of talking about hereafter.
If the things on the surface of the earth cannot be answered ,how you can answer the questions regarding the life after death.
Every one who is going to embrace Islam ,he has the right to investigate
1Who was the person who claimed that this book has been revealed---- No answer
2What was the character of that person ---- No answer
3Was he in the habit of telling lies and fabricating matter or he was dishonest----- No answer
4How much time has passed since this scripture was revealed .Was concocted just 200 yrs ago? ------ No answer
5What sort of changes did this scripture produce in the followers of that Prophet.------ No answer
6What a funny teaching of this book that its followers including the person to whome this scripture was revealed could not know for 1400 yrs the exact meanings of
a Salat
bMasijudul Haram
cHajj
In other words this book produced only "stupids" for 1400 yrs.----- -LoL
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Suppose a non muslim who is interested in islam , wants to know the anwer of these three question in a scenario in which I have already recited these Quranic Ayaas to him
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How can I answer these question from the Holy Quran ??It really is comical when you yourself quote these verses? Do you not believe in the quran?
The day will come when we will raise from every community a witness from among them, and bring you as the witness of these people. We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance, and mercy, and good news for the submitters.
All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book. To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.
Why draw the line at the history of islam? Why not go further? The quran doesn't explain the details of how an internal-combustion engine operates, it doesn't list the World Cup champions for the past 20 years, etc. Do you not see how flawed your logic is? The quran doesn't claim to be an explanation for everything that ever existed in the universe since the beginning of time til the end of time.
You simply need to realize the context of the quran GUIDANCE. Nothing is left out of it for our guidance. Therefore, we do not need outside sources for our guidance. Sure, to explain everything that ever existed in the universe since the beginning of time til the end of time we need outside sources. But for guidance/law, all we need is the quran as it states.
It really is VERY easy to see. This shouldn't be needed to repeated over and over.
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It really is comical when you yourself quote these verses? Do you not believe in the quran?
The day will come when we will raise from every community a witness from among them, and bring you as the witness of these people. We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance, and mercy, and good news for the submitters.
All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book. To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.
Why draw the line at the history of islam? Why not go further? The quran doesn't explain the details of how an internal-combustion engine operates, it doesn't list the World Cup champions for the past 20 years, etc. Do you not see how flawed your logic is? The quran doesn't claim to be an explanation for everything that ever existed in the universe since the beginning of time til the end of time.
You simply need to realize the context of the quran GUIDANCE. Nothing is left out of it for our guidance. Therefore, we do not need outside sources for our guidance. Sure, to explain everything that ever existed in the universe since the beginning of time til the end of time we need outside sources. But for guidance/law, all we need is the quran as it states.
It really is VERY easy to see. This shouldn't be needed to repeated over and over.
Please then tell me how can I satisfy that non -muslim?
1What is the name of the person to whome this book was revealed
2When was it revealed ?
3What is the location of this revelation ?
So give me the answers please but with reference .
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Please then tell me how can I satisfy that non -muslim?
1What is the name of the person to whome this book was revealed
2When was it revealed ?
3What is the location of this revelation ?
So give me the answers please but with reference .
Thanksgiveup
1746 And We place shields over their hearts and minds to prevent them from grasping it, and cause deafness in their ears. Their minds, hearts, and ears act impermeable when you mention your Lord in the Qur?an; Him alone, they turn their backs in disgust.
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Please then tell me how can I satisfy that non -muslim?
1What is the name of the person to whome this book was revealed
2When was it revealed ?
3What is the location of this revelation ?
So give me the answers please but with reference .
Thanks3340 MUHAMMAD is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets and Allah has full knowledge of all things.
472 But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to MUHAMMAD - for it is the Truth from their Lord,- ?.
Who was ?the Seal of the Prophets? and was not Qur?an the last revelation?
Simple logic!
Transitive Property of Equality if a = b and b = c, then a = c
For when/where, study sciences and histories from various sources to triangulate info.
Do the same for time of Big Bang; Y-chromosome Adam; etc., http//www.google.com
Qur'an transcends time-space which time is a relative illusion and makes no difference.
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3340 MUHAMMAD is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets and Allah has full knowledge of all things.
472 But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to MUHAMMAD - for it is the Truth from their Lord,- ?.
You did not give arabic text as usual these are as follows
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472First of all both these Aya do confirm that Muhammad PBUH was a Prophet.But they do not show that Holy Quran was revealed to him PBUH.
In the first Aya verb "Kaana" is used which is used for present tense (Is) and past tense (was) .
In the second aya again past passive (Nuzzila) is used .Again let me say these Aya do not indicate the Holy quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
Might be the period of Muhammad PBUH is much before that person to which Quran was revealed.Because the person about whome ISA PBUH gave us the new was "AHMED" not Muhammad.
Were these two one and same personalities or different ones?? -
giveup
1746 And We place shields over their hearts and minds to prevent them from grasping it, and cause deafness in their ears. Their minds, hearts, and ears act impermeable when you mention your Lord in the Qur?an; Him alone, they turn their backs in disgust.
Now you understand your helplessness . yay rotfl yay rotfl
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You did not give arabic text as usual these are as follows
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472First of all both these Aya do confirm that Muhammad PBUH was a Prophet.But they do not show that Holy Quran was revealed to him PBUH.
In the first Aya verb "Kaana" is used which is used for present tense (Is) and past tense (was) .
In the second aya again past passive (Nuzzila) is used .Again let me say these Aya do not indicate the Holy quran was revealed to Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
Might be the period of Muhammad PBUH is much before that person to which Quran was revealed.Because the person about whome ISA PBUH gave us the new was "AHMED" not Muhammad.
Were these two one and same personalities or different ones??3059 Thus does Allah SEAL up the hearts of those who understand not.
Stop playing ?mullah the dunce? and read!
http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/3/3_144.htm
http//www.answering-christianity.com/aramaic_society.htm
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3059 Thus does Allah SEAL up the hearts of those who understand not.
Stop playing ?mullah the dunce? and read!
http//www.islamicity.com/mosque/arabicscript/Ayat/3/3_144.htm
http//www.answering-christianity.com/aramaic_society.htm
Please copy paste here so that every one knows.And show me what quranic source proves that Quran was revealed to Muhamad PBUH.
Look at the Qurani Aya;
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The Prophet about whome ISa ibne Maryam PBUH told was "Ahmed" not Muhammad PbUH.
The Prophet Muhammad PBUH should have been earlier than Isa ibne Maryam PBUH.
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Please copy paste here so that every one knows.And show me what quranic source proves that Quran was revealed to Muhamad PBUH.
Look at the Qurani Aya;
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The Prophet about whome ISa ibne Maryam PBUH told was "Ahmed" not Muhammad PbUH.
The Prophet Muhammad PBUH should have been earlier than Isa ibne Maryam PBUH.
Prove that these two names were of the same personalities."But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 1426
"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Paraclete shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you." John 167
"When the Paraclete comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness of me." John 1526
"But when he, the Spirit of Truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative, but whatever he hears, he will speak..." Jn. 1613
"He shall glorify me." John 1614
"He shall take mine and shall disclose it to you." John. 1614
"He will teach you all things." John 1426
"He will bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John. 1426
"He will bear witness of me" John 1526
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"But the Paraclete, the Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 1426
"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Paraclete shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you." John 167
"When the Paraclete comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness of me." John 1526
"But when he, the Spirit of Truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own initiative, but whatever he hears, he will speak..." Jn. 1613
"He shall glorify me." John 1614
"He shall take mine and shall disclose it to you." John. 1614
"He will teach you all things." John 1426
"He will bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John. 1426
"He will bear witness of me" John 1526
Extra Quranic sources ?????
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Please copy paste here so that every one knows.And show me what quranic source proves that Quran was revealed to Muhamad PBUH.
Look at the Qurani Aya;
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The Prophet about whome ISa ibne Maryam PBUH told was "Ahmed" not Muhammad PbUH.
The Prophet Muhammad PBUH should have been earlier than Isa ibne Maryam PBUH.
Prove that these two names were of the same personalities.You are correct. Now, let us suppose they spoke English back in those days. What if they said "His name shall be Mahomet", does that rule out "Muhammad" from the names?
How many messengers were there after Jesus? Which one was the most prominent?
One only has to use the grey lump of matter residing in the hollow of their skull.
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You are correct. Now, let us suppose they spoke English back in those days. What if they said "His name shall be Mahomet", does that rule out "Muhammad" from the names?
How many messengers were their after Jesus? Which one was the most prominent?
One only has to use the grey lump of matter residing in the hollow of their skull.
The Prophet coming after Jesus PBUH was "Ahmed" PBUH.This is what Quran says.
Do not run for suppositions and extra Quranic sources.
Bring the proof/evidence from the Quran;
1The name of the person to whome Quran was revealed
2When was Quran revealed (how many yr back (4yr ,200 yr or 1400 yr back)
3 In which part of middle East was the Holy Quran revealed
4Who is Ahmed PBUH ? Are Muhammad and Ahme PbUH one person proof from the Quran please
5Were the Ihraab present on it when Quran was revealed ? If not who put them on the alphabets.If yes bring the proof from the Quran . -
1The name of the person to whome Quran was revealed
2When was Quran revealed (how many yr back (4yr ,200 yr or 1400 yr back)
3 In which part of middle East was the Holy Quran revealed
4Who is Ahmed PBUH ? Are Muhammad and Ahme PbUH one person proof from the Quran please
5Were the Ihraab present on it when Quran was revealed ? If not who put them on the alphabets.Greetings leoxyz,
I'd like to understand why you are pressing people to answer these questions. Are these issues that have been determined to be necessary for one's salvation from the state of hell? Or to reach the state of jannah? What's your goal here? Do you believe that one will not ever make it to 'jannah' unless one can answer them? &
If not, then this line of questioning has no foundation and is moot.
peace