@ mmkhan hope u doing good. when u started this thread my position was different anyways some new perceptions from my side now. Quran is from GOD ? ? not only quran but also bible, geeta, veda, tora, budda scripture all are from GOD the one who controls everything? but the ideas and message is for human by a human and the continuity of work is also by human. is it possible that the mixing of falsehood with truth ? yes its possible. all that happened with previous scriptures. is it possible that with QURAN same thing happened ? yes why not God is divine not any book ? how we know the early generations what they did with words and the meanings of those words. even if they unable to change the arabic as per their claim. but what if they change the interpretation to the accordance of 7th century. invention of vowel marks also give new eras of explorations so we need to see what was the reason ? veey simple when u start sitting with christian, hindus, anyother u can feel they have same respect and faith on their scriptures same as muslim born do. neutrally i didnt see any nation scripture bad itself. its all about the system and tradition when we born in some specific nation we have to accept it otherwise we will b rebels of system. example if a christian go against christanity if a muslim go against islam if a hindu go against hinduism all three are rebels to their system but hero for other systems whatever system they accept. accepting system will not change anything but more confusion. example a person born in black nation cant become white( micky exception) he need to understand hez black. the reality of himself. he cant challange his nation, his color, nothing he can change same goes for every nation when we try to change what we are not we all ended up in a confusion. at this present world we been forced by very few systems amd mix and match of systems. one common thing in all systems ( they think their system is truth).

Peace bro You are most welcome Sorry but you are wrong because you have completely overlooked the word "ARSALNA" as such, you have read the verse out of context. The word not only means send but also if you read it in context, it means, "to keep up a correspondence / message, to exchange message / letters, to send to one another message / letters". Considering the fact that the verse itself mentioned about the language of the messenger and his people and to make things clear to his people, how shall the messenger convey the message in a language where his people could not be able to comprehend? From the verse which I quoted, i believe the Quran was not only sent down in Arabic but also in other languages, Sorry, but i do not see any logic... May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr insha ALLAH Peace bro Salaamun bro, These are the few places where the word ARSALNA is used 06006 07133 07162 Which simply says that the word ARSALNA = WE SENT. You cannot insert message in these aayaat bro. May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr mmKhan

Fasting from this world one should do all the time. This is better for them. Be well

Sura 37 He said "I will go to my Lord! He will surely guide me! (99) "O my Lord! Grant me a righteous (son)!" (100) So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear. (101) Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice So when they had both submitted their wills (to Allah), and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice), (103) We called out to him "O Abraham! (104) "Thou hast already fulfilled the vision!" - thus indeed do We reward those who do right. (105) For this was obviously a trial- (106) And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice (107) And We left (this blessing) for him among generations (to come) in later times (10 "Peace and salutation to Abraham!" (109) Thus indeed do We reward those who do right. (110) For he was one of our believing Servants. (111) And We gave him the good news of Isaac - a prophet,- one of the Righteous. (112) It is plain that Ishaq comes after Isma3il, and indeed much after Isma3l, since when Ishaq is announced the whole scene of the sacrifice has already been played out. And the association of Ismail with patience as somebody has already pointed out from hte Qur'an yies in with the passage of the sacrifice, so there is not much room for doubt as per the Qur'an. Some people in other thread I htink has suggested that in fact Ishaq is the son of Isma3il which might be so, because if they were already ald when the "first" boy is announced, the second might indeed have been the son of the son. Salaam 1439 "All praise is due to God, who has bestowed upon me, in my old age, Ishmael and Isaac! Behold, my Sustainer hears indeed all prayer 2927 And We granted to him Ishaq and Yaqub and We placed in his offsprings the Prophethood and the Book. And We gave him his reward in the world. And indeed, he in the Hereafter (is) surely, among the righteous. 684 And We bestowed to him Ishaq and Yaqub, all We guided. And Nuh, We guided before; and of his descendents, Dawood and Sulaiman and Ayyub and Yusuf and Musa and Harun. And thus We reward the good-doers. Hehe, cool, even Jacob is thrown in the same sentences.

Salaam, You are still the same > No changes > Salaam, Not true, I am older now yes I mean believing like believing in you or a computer or internet is OK. But if you don't believe in them you will go to hell. My question was believing as in blue, do we need to believe like this if we believe in Allah alone? Or believing in Allah alone is enough. It is hard not to believe in something which you have witnessed. If a messenger comes to me with a message from Allah, I will believe in both in Allah and in the messenger, how is it even possible to deny the messenger if you believe in his message? Would be strange to say "Yo messenger I totally belief in every word you had with you but I don't believe in you, I believe in Allah alone". Should we belief in things we have not witnessed? That's a more difficult question. I do not believe in angels like in the movies but I believe in malaikats, I do not know exactly what they are or who they are are but I believe in a book which mentions to my idea some creatures called malaikats so I do believe in them even without knowing exactly what or who they are. May Allah bless you pr mmKhan May Allah bless you 2 pr Bender I have the strange idea we are talking about different things hmm

Peace, RED I don't know Peace bro, Did I ask you? >( May Allah bless you pr mmKhan

can you make this clearer to non-Arabic readers please and don't forget the verse where Allah names us muslims even in the time of Abraham the father of monotheism. Salaam brother, Allah sent down His book in clear Arabic. So, I tried to show how those Arabic words clarifies and define its meaning. How precisely tanween or nunation is used in this Arabic language, alhamduliAllah. I don't think it is possible to clear these points for non-Arabic readers. But even if you look closer the Arabic words that I used as a examples, you will see there are differences in text. Or else you could take some help from transliteration. For example Kitaabu = Book or written text. KitaabUN = Specific book or specific written text. KitaabIN = Some book or some written text. KitaabAN = Single book or one written text. This is how Arabic words defines its meaning in detail. But I strongly believe that at least you should know how to read Arabic. Understanding Arabic is not required for guidance really. But at least you should know how to read Arabic to see and understand its patterns and styles. May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr mmKhan

Peace @FreedomStands Allah makes Himself known to us through His Attributes, which are Meaningful and Represent His Qualities. As for His Essence, the 112th Sura of the Quran clearly states that we cannot apprehend Him on this side, so no use, or better not advisable to try, remember the passage of Moses asking Allah to show Himself to Him, how it ended for a poor mountain. But that is the revelation that I use to reference what Allah is, because when Musa got up he said Subhan, that Allah is like Nothing, total annihilation of everything, like death, there is nothing to see because if anyone sees anything its a creation of Allah (information), and Allah is non-information. non-information can never be comprehended or experienced directly, but the concept at least can be understood. I don't think it is too safe to not have a clear idea of what Allah is because then some people might be saying Allah and imagining some old man in the sky or something.

Salaam, This is an update of understanding about Gh-Fa-Ra does not mean forgive/forgiveness. As per my current understanding Gh-Fa-Ra means to stop any azaab. Like for example, if you know how azaab is set with its ajal , we can stop it by Gh-Fa-Ra, inshaAllah. (Please click the aayat number to see more translations) 833 833 And Allah would not punish them while you are amongst them, and He was not to punish them and they were seeking Forgiveness . This aayat clarifies the meaning of Gh-Fa-Ra. If anyone having any question about it, please put it forward, inshaAllah, we will discuss further. May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr mmKhan

Greetings brother mmKhan. This is an excellent post. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. pr Salaam brother, Thanks you handshake May Allah bless you and shower His blessings and peace be upon you pr mmKhan

Peace This need a new thread to discuss . This thread is about and not about . In my post I said "example".I used that janaba for example. Red If you believe so, then we don't have anything to discuss on any topic. Without text how will you understand its message? Of course we need a text, because text is part of human language and how we communicate each other.So that's why Nabi Muhammad and his sahabat wrote it in text.And because this Arabic Quranic text is autharized by God and Nabi then this Arabic Quran labeled as the main legalized text for guidance for mankind. The main reason of I said "The real miracle of the Quran lies within it's message not in it's text" is because some people believe in misconception if Quran Mushaf have some miracle like code 19, magic healing etc. And this is also for refute your claim if Quran Arabic's structural is special and different.I just wan to told you if Quranic text written in ordinary Classical Arab, so it's okay if used Classical Arab dictionaries to understand it. Ok I will not confuse ths in this thread because off topic, but if you want discuss about this you can create a new thread or by PM.

I have not stdied it yet. But please note that the Quran has many dialetric errors, only the letters are preserved. Both the words you are trying to differentiate are the same, except with one dialetric difference. Please see the Warsh and Hafs version of Quran, there is an article on free-minds. You will be surprised. Peace, Red How will you proof this? From fake history or hadith? Please don't forget that we are talking about the Book of Allah. Do you think Allah allow people to make changes as they want? Sorry, I disagree. Please think again about what you said. If you have any supporting aayat from alQuraan for your claim, then inshaAllah, surely we will discuss it further. May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr mmKhan

It might help if we all clarify what our sawm is to others as Maryam did. I see no reason that one may not abstain from as many things as one likes unless one has a direct revelation from God telling them what they personally must not abstain from. Months should be understood as they were at the time of revelation, i.e. according to the Julian calendar.

alKitaab is a guidance for alMuttaqeen Not "el-kitaab", but "that Kitaab" (dhalike-l-kitaabu). Weled is about breeding, rearing, educating, rising, helping a child. It can be born child, but it can also be adopted child, or just a child one take care of. Ibn is born child. Its root refers to something interconnected, as in word beyne ("between&quot, and is also used as a verb benaa, in sense of "to build" (or to connect parts, building something). So, ibn is begotten male child and bint is begotten female child. Ed`iyaa' are adopted kids (lit. "called children&quot. Weled stands for all of them. Similarly, waalid and other words include all parents, ones who begot a child or adopted or took care of some child. In relation to Allah, weled means that He didn't take anybody to rise (educate), we all have our own will, nobody's programmed to be special in that, even son of Meryem. Main proof for me for this is in 7127, when NooH's asking from Allah not to leave his people, because they won't RISE, except faajir, keffaar.

Sejda as a word is not used in the Qur'an (same is for rukoo&#039, but 32nd surah is called Sejda. There's only one usage of words from s-j-d in 3215 from which we can understand the whole concept of Sejda. Prostration is best described through the verb kharre خَرَّ, which is used with words from roots s-j-d and r-k-'. Kharre can mean both, physical prostration or lowering self in front of Allah as opposite to istikbar mentioned at the end of 3215. But 3215 is crucial to understand when, why and how. Unfortunately, I don't know many people who could help me and remind me on Allah's aayaat. Root s-j-d is about accepting, welcoming somebody or something with full support and friendship. Jaada جادة is a broad road (as today avenue or boulevard) and harf seen is headway, or all mean that somebody is going towards something/somebody with his wide heart and mind, not with narrowness and enmity (as Iblees towards Aadem). Prostration should be due to our realization about errs we done and regretting, asking for forgiveness, but it can be non-physical.

Every action is an impulse which affects all around it, as we drop a solid dense object in water and it creates (concentric) circular waves. The root g-f-r describes removing effects of bad impulse we created by our action. For example, if we insult somebody whenever we meet him that action of insulting him will still have an effect on both of us, unless he "forgave us". We're doing bad things not just because we're bad persons in our nefs, but also due to not knowing better (way). We do our best but it comes out something very bad. His raHmet is needed in these situations when we can't help ourselves, and raHmet comes as His help to overcome an issue we're not able to solve. So, if we created a bad impulse, removing its effects is not the only thing we need, but we also need His raHmet to help us not to create the same or similar impulses again.

Salaam mmkhan Unfortunately you didn't gave explanation for what's "next time" means. Maybe you can see my thread http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605995.0. Quran have many synonym words, like the word Rabb in Surah Jusuf, the word Kitab (Please Read). Pleace notice this.

Salaam, 4152 4152 Say, "Have you considered if it is from Allah and you disbelieved in it, who would be more astray than one who is in extreme dissension?" 4153 4153 We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness? 4154 4154 Unquestionably, they are in doubt about the meeting with their Lord. Unquestionably He is, of all things, encompassing. Please take a look at these videos 1- How the universe works. 2- Respiratory system. 12105 12105 And how many a sign within the heavens and earth do they pass over while they, therefrom, are turning away. May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr mmKhan

Salaamun brother imrankhawaja and Timotheus. Thanks and may bless you with His special blessings pr handshake

Salaam Wakas and Bender, Thank you very much for your replies... And thanks a bunch for Bender for helping me out. But still is it not difficult to find this option for many like me and Wakas? hmm Is it not better to add a direct link into the menu items? hmm Thanks anyway.. mmKhan