(the message) 6010 O you who believe, if the believing females come emigrating to you, then you shall test them. God is fully aware of their belief. Thus, if you establish that they are believers, then you shall not return them to the rejecters. They are no longer lawful for one another. And return the dowries that were paid. And there is no sin upon you to marry them, if you have paid their dowries to them. And do not keep disbelieving wives, and ask back what dowries you paid. And let them ask back what dowries they had paid. Such is the judgment of God; He judges between you. God is Knowledgeable, Wise. If you read the verses before it it will be clear to you that these women were expelled by their disbelieving husbands/family because they became believers. Also look at this line from aboveThus, if you establish that they are believers, then you shall not return them to the rejecters. Allah is being fair here. The women were rejected. They have all the right to remarry. Hence, divorce is the way to go. In other words, the verses are not saying that if a spouse changes her/his religion or become atheist they deserve divorce. Love is the symbol of Allah. One who doesn't honor it is bound for hell on this planet.

Salaam. Go to http//free-minds.org/quran And when you are reading a Sura, click the verse number. Then you will also see the original Arabic text. But it won't work in search result. Sorry no pdf for you regards Yuliana

Please read the Four Lessons of Liao Fan which explores this. Liao Fan is a man who did precisely this. http//www.buddhanet.net/liaofans.htm Then perhaps you shall see the true severity of your deeds. You shall see that for example with the 20% tax you pay on your "money", you are directly purchasing bullets and missiles to kill children with your own two hands. This burden is yours. They who shoot the missiles shall not bear that burden, this burden is yours. You killed those children with your own two hands; even though you did not touch them or see them. This is the shirk that we commit every day. It is purely your choice to put "money" towards this. It is purely your choice to submit to tyranny. To submit to tyranny is to submit to satan. To submit to satan is unforgivable, in God's own words. All else is forgivable, except the decision of a sovereign being to submit to tyranny. ONLY the decision itself is unforgivable - the results of the decision are transient, the entire heavens and Earth shall pass and decay, it is only here for trial. But this very decision is worthy of hell for a very long time. If you looked at the true extent of your deeds, you would see many dead bodies and rivers of blood. You went to the Iraq protests. You actively strive for Palestine perhaps. Then you go home and turn on your TV. And pay for the bombs to kill both the Iraqis and subjugate the Palestinians. Net effect of deeds MURDER If you looked towards the food you ate you would see a mountain of shit higher than the sky, a mountain of screaming creatures oozing with pus, pain, torture and deprivation, screaming out to God If you looked towards the clothes you wear... you would see prisons upon prisons full of cages upon cages of sweaty pained starving children, stitching away for a miserable price Then one day you step on an ant or kill a fly. And you shed a few tears, "I was so good and pure and perfect and innocent but now I killed this ant, and I am eternally tarnished" rotfl Of course for most of us hopefully our good deeds leads to many more live bodies and many rivers of living blood to overcome such a thing. Except... And if We make him taste mercy from Us after distress that has touched him, he would most certainly say This is of me, and I do not think the hour will come to pass, and if I am sent back to my Lord, I shall have with Him sure good; but We will most certainly inform those who disbelieved of what they did, and We will most certainly make them taste of hard chastisement. (4150) But those who are unaware of this, those who in their ignorance wander onwards working for major corporations under the idea of being powerless... they eat up evil every single day yet kiss their wives to sleep and fast and do their "salat" and all around think of themselves as "Good Muslims". And this is not one in a hundred... this is 8 or 9 of every ten people you meet. {1} I swear by the time, {2} Most surely man is in loss, {3} Except those who believe and do good, and enjoin on each other truth, and enjoin on each other patience. peace

Peace everyone, Quran only Muslims are certainly not alone in this rejection/not knowing in how other people will react to them. There's Pagans/Wiccans/Witches - get routinely mocked for believing in magic as well, homosexuals, atheists, traditional Muslim or any Muslims who want to tell their parents or family about leaving their respective faith for Islam, anyone else of any other faith who faces hostility because their family does not approve of anything outside of their religion. This is more about human nature at the end of the day, than it is about anything else. Some people are accepting, they may even want to learn, other people are rejecting. Some people are happy with their family only knowing a little about their spirituality or whatever it is, others want to ensure they know everything. So its all about each side in the situation as well.

Salamun Alayka, You are doing fine with your emoticons, but you have to work on your emotions. "Bendeeeeerrrrrr you stole my chance" is a cry of someone who can't control his anger management and besides this it's also a big lie. I wonder what the penalty is for accusing someone for stealing something which in not even his hmm A -- chopping of the fingers who typed it B -- chopping of the tongue who spoke it out C -- chopping of the brains who thought it Salaam, Bender ps. there is also an option D D -- send a big amount of $$$ to my account to compensate me for the big emotional damage and some extra $$$ for harming my good name on this forum. Salamun Alayk, Woah woah woah, ..... I should have better known that free-minds has sharp and intelligent minds too ;D However, though your analysis is quite accurate, there are three points I would like to raise The sentence at hand was initially supposed to come in a "jokingly" or "teasingly" manner, not "angrily". Where I come from, extending someone's name like that is to depict light desperation or frustration for doing something slightly disliked by the person saying it, yet in a very light mood and tone, certainly not with a "mad" or "angry" one. So perhaps it's due to the cultural difference that you misunderstood me, for talking like this to someone does not give the impression of actual anger or mismanagement of anger in my society. Extending someone?s name like that in a sentence does not mean that one is screaming, or having a harsh tone, but simply showing slight disheartenment. Such expressions are followed by ?But it?s cool/okay? and a smile. Conclusively, my intention was not to show that I am angry or have an anger mismanagement problem, but was simply, slightly disheartened. My apologies for using the word "Steal", I realized how absurd it sounds, I should have you used the word "Took", or should have said "Bendeeeeeeerr,r I missed my chance because of you", or "Bendeeeeerrr, you made me miss my chance". Though, then again, ever heard the phrase "Steal someone's thunder"? Well as per the dictionary I possess, it means "Win praise for oneself by preempting someone else's attempt to impress", where one of the meanings of "Preempting" is "Acquire or appropriate (Something) in advance". Hence, my usage of "Steal" does not necessarily mean the traditional "Taking something from someone without permission or right", but can very well mean taking something that I could've done. Though now I have realized that it?s not your posting before me that is the cause me not being able to share the verse, but it?s my lack of being attentive that is the cause, hence I acknowledge my bad usage of words, but even then, I didn't have the intention of accusing you directly or indirectly at all, but simply joke around. I used the phrase "Just kidding" later, which more or less negates what I said before it. At Urbandictionary.com, a person wrote that the following are the usages of this expression (and got a positive feedback too) You were just joking around with somebody You were actually serious but decided what you said was actually very mean You were actually serious but since that person took what you said offensively you cover it up by saying" just kidding" When you try to confess to something and that person is either laughing at you in disbelief or just very angry you cover it up by saying just kidding 3 and 4 cannot be the case for I wrote the expression before any reaction by you, hence, 1 and 2 are left. Since I'm the guy who said it, I would obviously know better what my intention was, and it was certainly 1, not 2. I never thought that it is "actually very mean" to begin with, and was in reality "joking around" with you, that's all. As far as "joking" is concerned, well as per thefreedictionary.com, here are the meanings of this term joke (jk) n. Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line. A mischievous trick; a prank. An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation. Informal a. Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality The accident was no joke. b. An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock His loud tie was the joke of the office. v. joked, jok?ing, jokes v.intr. To tell or play jokes; jest. To speak in fun; be facetious. v.tr. To make fun of; tease. See the "Something not to be taken seriously", and "Tease"? Well that is exactly what I had in mind, to simply say something not to be taken seriously, and was simply "Teasing" you. Hence, dear brother Bender, my apologies for any misunderstandings, I take back what you said if you got offended by my comment -[, and I let all people who read this know that I had no intention of harming Bender's good name at the forum at all ) Peace

Maybe it is some relief to know that the Prophets suffered too, like Ibrahim had a father who believed in idols and he could never convert him even despite praying, and Nuh had a son who disbelieved and a wife who was noted as not a good lady. Musa was surrounded by bad people, even among those he was trying to help. In the Bible, Job's friends all betrayed him and blamed him for his illness. Jesus had almost no one either, and on and on. It seems to be made that way, that the sincere are few and far between and the majority are always believing silly things. For me, it isn't so much about relief noting that, but accepting the way reality is and coming to terms with it. Its undoubtedly hateful, and you're not wrong to feel bad about a bad situation, but such were the situations in the past too 2214 do you think that you could enter paradise without having suffered like those who passed away before you? Misfortune and hardship befell them, and so shaken were they that the apostle, and the believers with him, would exclaim, "When will God's succour come?" Oh, verily, God's succour is near! Someday you might move out of the closet, and into a spacious cupboard or pantry.

Sorry sis for the assumption I made about you leaving sunnism and getting sick and all. Sorry to hear about your discomfort. Eventhough we might have a difference of opinion about what the crime is (you said homosexuality versus I say definately not) there is something that we all can agree upon. Namely what all these "crimes" have in common. So far the only thing I can see is that they all in some way deny Allah or peoples freedom to believe in Allah. The lewd people of Lot denied him as a prophet of Allah, the people stopping people from doing the Hajj would have been stricken down if not for prophet Muhammed being around....just two examples that I can think of on top of my head.....but you get what I mean. It is a bit tricky because in the Quran some parts are allegorical, so a story about Allah striking down people because of their sins cannot be automatically be taken literally. Shirk is.....different. That is the only sin not forgivable by Allah (on judgement day). So unless you are not actively trying to stop Allah or not letting people believe in him you will not be punished here on earth. jedi If you are just trying to find your way and during that you go against Allah, then He will (hopefully) forgive on judgement day......But He will definately not punish you while alive 2286 God does not burden a soul except with what it can bear. For it is what it earns, and against it is what it earns. "Our Lord, do not mind us if we forget or make mistakes; our Lord, do not place a burden upon us as You have placed upon those before us; our Lord, do not place upon us what we cannot bear; pardon us, and forgive us, and have mercy on us; You are our patron, so grant us victory over the disbelieving people." When it comes to Allah testing you is however very clear in the Quran. Best to look at http//www.quran-islam.org/articles/part_3/human_suffering_(P1381).html Thank you so much for this link, it is exactly what I've been looking for! Very informative. I'm slowly opening up to the idea that Lot's people were not homosexuals. Farouk A Peru's video on youtube really opened my eyes to some facts that it just isn't possible. But I'm still in the pre-acceptance phase, as I am still separating myself from my old sunni education.

Yes sunni and shia scholars denounce each other's hadiths and fatwa.. More than that, they announce each other as infidel and heretics. Thus, if you denounce shiite's hadith you have sunnis as your friend and when you denounce sunni's hadith you have the shiites as your friend. (the enemy of my enemy is my friend) Salam / Peace Thanks for replying ). I meant are there any sunni scholars or shia scholars or shiekhs that have become quranists? Just clarifying for everyone.

Oh, and don't worry, You can have a "display name" inside. My original avatar name is Maddie Diker. But I have a display name of Pixel Angel Baby. ). You can change Display Names once a week if you want. It helps for roleplaying environments.

peace. The true Shahada is in 318 we Cannot BEAR WITNESS that muhammed is a messenger because he is dead and no longer a messenger We are commanded to NOT make a distinction between messengers Putting muhammed's name besides God's name is setting up partners with God

your hair had better balance because you covered it, if your skin tans your hair tans too. You mean this as cosmetic advice? Salaam

Peace Amina, You are so blessed to have a friend like that. I'll tell you over private message of a couple that my husband met randomly. I believe they are also Quran only or at least very progressive in their thinking. I think your experience is very reassuring. I think I am definitely going to try, and meet up with some of these women. Hopefully, I will meet at least one person who will accept as I am, God willing.

salamun 3alaiky See PRACTICES http//quransmessage.com/articles/practices%20FM3.htm POPULAR BELIEFS http//quransmessage.com/articles/popular%20beliefs%20FM3.htm FOOD AND DRINK http//quransmessage.com/articles/food%20FM3.htm WOMEN http//quransmessage.com/articles/women%20FM3.htm

Peace and blessings be upon all of you My name is Madiha and I'm an american egyptian living in cairo,egypt. My story... It started last week I happened to be saying prayers to Allah out loud with my husband, to guide me and him and bless us and many other things. I was very calm and sincere about it. It was a very intimate moment between us as I prayed (my husband I mean)... The next day, I was searching on google about the permissibility of wearing a wig in Islam (for fashion and only to mahram), when out of nowhere I came upon a wikipedia article called "Criticism of Hadith" and it intrigued me. I learned that there were various scholars and maybe even caliphs that apposed and rejected the collection of hadith, and this was the first time I ever knew anyone had rejected it entirely. I'm not sure but I think it mentioned a type of Muslim that follows the quran only and from there I did more research. Days went by in turmoil, insomnia, emotional breakdowns and intellectual debates. My brain hurt so bad from thinking back and forth, checking verse by verse cited by "Quranists" about how Allah mentions in the Quran not to follow hadith and how doing so is enjoining partners with Allah. I would fall asleep forcibly with my iphone still in my hand sometimes, trying to stay up and verify everything I was reading, and praying to Allah to guide me on the straight path and please don't let me go astray and be like the ones you have veiled and blinded. I became obsessed. And very upset. "No..I couldn't have been wrong all my life..verily I was a Muslim..my parents couldn't have raised me wrong? I couldn't have possibly been lied to all my life, that was the "unbelievers" that live that life. That life of shirk. I'm sure I'm on the right path...all I do is follow Allah and his Messenger! What's wrong with that?" I thought. Every time I had questions I begged Allah to guide me and keep me straight and not to let me go astray. And after each time I discovered new sources of information pertaining the fabrication of hadith and how Allah warned us of doing the same as the people of the previous scriptures. It was when I bumped into a video of Teddy3indc on youtube, who recommended everyone watch 3 videos by a user named Humblservant, because she cited from the Quran the entire time, supporting the permissibility of following hadith other than Allah's. Her videos are called "Hadith...is it islam?" if you want to look it up. I admit I first looked into so called Quranism with a skeptic eye, but that's what anyone with any sense would do. I was SO SCARED. I was TERRIFIED that I might be doing something wrong or that I was going astray,...or even worse..that this IS the truth and that I've been lied to since I was born and never knew islam for what it really is. I am at part to blame. I called myself a muslim since birth yet I had never ONCE read the entire quran from cover to cover. I never completed it. Not even in ramadan. And whatever it is I had read, it wasn't significant, and I do realise I may have emphasized the hadith too much. For some reason I didn't understand why Allah would keep repeating the same warnings over and over again in the Quran, especially aimed at a people that were before the Quran....so hadith seemed more "detailed" and tailored to tell me specifically right from wrong. Although I didn't like hadith most of the time, I bit my tongue and took it, not all the time of course, but I believed that I couldn't say a hadith is false, because I wouldn't really know and if I was wrong I would suffer for assuming. And that if one was wrong, then the rest don't hold water and I didn't want to disobey Allah, thinking to myself "Who am I to question Allah's will and wisdom?". Little did I know I wasn't following Allah's will and words at all.......... Anyways..I have to tell you how I felt after watching Humblservant's video. I felt FREE! I felt like I finally got the answers I was looking for all my life. And that Allah answered my prayers. And that every doubt I had about hadith in the past was absolutely right, but I hadn't dared to act on it! I felt like the hugest weight was lifted off my shoulders. My constant feeling of guilt, shame and worthlessness was GONE. You know, how you feel for not doing every little thing required in "Islam" and giving up entirely out of frustration and the inability to maintain it. I was worried at first if this was the feeling of emptiness I had when I left islam as an early teen (13 yrs) and converted to Christianity due to my lack of knowledge in Islam...but it wasn't. I felt totally and utterly free! I felt free of the prejudice and opinions of the clergies and scholars! I felt free from the "responsibility/burden" to carry out every hadith, or at least believe in them, however twisted they sounded. I felt free in knowing the Creator guided me and answered my prayers! Insha Allah I felt free and at awe at the inconceivable mercy Allah has bestowed on his worshippers. That Islam DOESN'T have to be SO HARD. I felt free knowing that there IS HOPE FOR MY SOUL! That If I just did the basics Allah asks in the Quran..THAT I STAND A CHANCE!! Insha Allah! I felt free and not so guilty and heavy hearted! I thank Allah for guiding me, al hamd lilah! I hope Allah always guides me to the straight path, whatever that may be, till the day I die.. Having said all that up there...anyone else experiencing a loss of "guilt" and shame? For some reason I feel like that was the only thing that connected me to Allah. That constant fear, guilt and shame for not meeting up to Allah's commands. I know Allah says you should fear him...but I can't help but just LOVE him and revere him and praise him...somehow I feel that Allah isn't "there" when I feel this liberation and burden-lifted after supposedly finding the truth. Why is that? Does anyone know what I'm talking about? I also have this overwhelming feeling of the absence of shaytan. I don't know how to explain it...but it's as if he doesn't exist to me! I can't hear his whispers...I dunno why but whatever voice is in my head...it feels like my own. Anyone else feel this? Thanks for going through my really long intro, but I just had to get it out there! I want the whole world to know I will no longer worship anything but Him, and that I bear witness there is no God but Allah! ) ) ) ) ) Salamz! Salam and welcome Great introduction . God blees you Peace )