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  • Spiritual Rock Bottom

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    Salaams Feshari, I thank you very much for venting out some the steam. Your situation is not good and my heart is with you but you know what, I think that the solution is in your hand and within your budget too but will you follow through? Can you forget all about religion, what you believe in and what others believe in and just focus on your physical self? Can you join a health club or do a sport that would take all your energy so that you won?t have any left to waste on others? Others can be hell, absolutely. I can describe the situation here, in the Middles East around me, as such! But where can I go? How can I escape? No escape that is my fate! And that is why I keep myself really busy from others because they almost kill me with what they do and say, etc?And when I really have to be with them, I would pretend like I am enjoying every second! This pretending is hard work but being with them teaches me things which then balances out the accumulating stress from such gatherings. And I would reassure myself that these gatherings do not happen every day, thankfully. If you believe that what people do or say has nothing to do with you, you will surely feel much better. The Quran was not intended to make those who believe in it feel miserable. You are in charge of your feelings, not others. What your Mom believes is her personal choice and not only should you not argue with her rather you should support her in her choice and understanding. You don?t want to maximize the friction between you and others, especially your Mom.
  • The BIGGER picture: I'm focused, man!..or am I?

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    However, what are some of you guys doing in regards to "being a Muslim"...particularly respective to fighting for basic human and environmental rights? peace, i've been writing letters to quite a few politicians regarding oil drilling in pristine areas of Alaska, also against logging in the northwestern US old-growth forests, i've been planting trees, composting, recycling, gave up eating meat, helping to care for an elderly person, handed out literature, joined the Green Party. hmmm, can one be a hippie and a muslim?
  • Angels

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    Peace be upon you, "malaika" are forces of control. It comes from the root M-L-K which implies control. If we continue to blindly follow the term "angel" we will continue to seek the wrong paths. There are no names mentiond for "malaikas", it is only when ONE differentiates itself that we see a DESCRIPTION , "iblis" which describes the state of desperation. It is only when we seperate from the WHOLE(GOD) that Limiting DEFINITIONS(opposite of infinite) become necessary.
  • arabic article

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    Salaam Omar, ...free-minds is not very organized as an organization. Just a small correction... free-minds is not an organization. ) Peace.
  • The Paradox

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    Peace Esimsek, See I can't agree with this. Mathematics has no beginning or end. 1+1 will always equal 2. Whether in this realm or another 1 with another 1 makes two parts. I think what we're dealing with is not the constitution of mathematics, but the constitution of perception. You told me a few posts back to think outside the box. I suggest the same. You have to understand that without time and space, mathematics has nothing to calculate. Math is locked into this reality. But time and space are temporary. What will math measure when there is no time and space? Think about that for a moment. What can you say exists irrespective of time and space? I can think of a few things Love Imagination Compassion Ambition Beauty Now tell me, can math measure any of the above? Probably the problem is (when arguing such a topic) is that space and time are by products of the Big bang, and therefore do not exist outside of this universe. Exactly! Now just make the connection between math and time and space and you'll see what I am saying. Math has no other purpose. It is a tool for us to understand time and space. But there are other aspects of reality, and other tools to decipher them. Peace, Tay
  • 'Christ'

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    Peace Kyle, I'm actually a little (actually very) surprised that you allow the virgin birth to be a part of your admittedly symbolic understanding of things. We had a discussion on the absence of evidence for a virgin birth recently. Regards
  • What does Islam mean to you

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    Salam I do not think that one is expected to blindly accept others interpretation of the appropriate way to practice the teachings of Islam. Or that one would be expected, in their infancy stages of learning, to following all of the rules from the very beginning. It would be like expecting a child to run before they can crawl. I believe that Islam is a journey in developing a closeness with God and that one must first understand in order to effectively practice. I agree here absolutely with Searching 4 God. Fortunately I found my way to God and Islam, which is firm and solid. Thanks to God and this Site I stopped floating around between the traditionalists with their perception of a too strict haram/halal Islam, which confused me and removed me again from my path, and the disbelievers who don't care about God and the Islam. Islam means to me a deep respect and gratefulness to our Creator, which I express in my daily prayers (let it be contact prayers as well as Du'as). Being good and respectful to people AND animals and the nature, the creation of God. Being aware of what is happening around me and try to make this world a better place in being absolvent and teaching my kids this values. I read the Quran and try to understand it. I try to uphold Gods commands. Although I don't agree with everything, this Site helps me lot in my efforts. This is why it is so worthy to me and I find the members of FM in their efforts to understand the dunja very sympathetic. My faith means my backbone for which I am very thankful that I can feel it. On the other hand I'm not at all a missionary, I don't see my salvation in talking endlessly about my faith to disbelievers. I still have a lot to learn and sometimes I even think that my little head is just too small to understand all of it. Then I just leave it - hoping that I will understand another time or accepting that there are thousands of things I am just unable to understand. (I hope we once will get an answer to it all) I try to be patient with everything and everybody which is a big task in our life and hard to reach. Salaams warda
  • Etiquette with the Quran

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    Peace. There is a distinction between things that with logic everyone can understand, but not those like Ansar. That difference is the distinction between respect and idolatry. We must should respect the message, becuase thats what God gave us, he didn't give us paper with ink on it, if it was like that then he would have just thrown down a book. Doing all this kissy kissy stuff is just out of the question, the book is not going to get anything out of it, no? Even though the Quran is God's word, it can still be set up as an idol besides him, like those who hang up arabic in their homes thinking it'll protect the home so they don't have to insure it... I give the book just as much respect as I would a phone directory, use it for information, but it in a decent place away from dirt and everything, but I wouldn't go around kissing it and not turning my back to it, that kind of restriction is just not logical. Peace. Natu on the line.
  • What is going on?

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    Apple Pie is a capital T - Troll. She is simply taking advantage of the good nature of people here. Let her just hurry up and say what it is she has to say then hopefully she can make her way to other places. We assure her that she won't be missed, nor will her attitude.
  • ANNOYING

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    Just to illustrate with a quantitative example THis really interesting article recently posted under "Modern Science Finds God" Approximate number of replies roughly related to the issue 6-7 Approximate number of replies totally unrelated 30-31
  • Interesting argument

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    Wow, Thanks for the hilarious link. Actually, Ive received a death threat before as I am sure some of you have...at my college there was a harcore Taliban Sympathizer who gave me lots of problems...After I informed a friend of his that the revered narrator of Hadith Mr. Abu Hurayra was in fact accused of being a liar by Aesha and Omar Al Khattab according to well known sunni history books, he informed me that if his cousin were there to hear me utter such a blasphemy he would have killed me on the spot with no regrets!! What a sad world we live in...the vast majority of sunnis though, manage to develop a schitzophrenic personality where they believe and disbelieve in this nonsense at the same time. Majority dont dare follow it, just believe in it and talk about it for they know if they were to follow much of hte uttered nonsense they would immediately be removed form the civilized world. Peace, Omar
  • Modern Science Finds God

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    I kindly suggest that you admit when you have no "argument" to fall back on...and please try to keep your "fatal attraction" down to a dull roar?. We all know that even the ?moderators? in this forum don?t enforce their very own rules?
  • QURAN AND ALCOHOL

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    Salam anmarb ok that just confused .... i never know alcholol was said to be allowed on this forum ... hehhe .. Do you mean you expect this forum to tell you what to do? shock wink Elke
  • NOTICE: Forum software is corrupted and leading to errors.

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    Peace, Also, Layth, maybe you havent noticed, but if somebody tries to enter the forum from free-minds.org from ANY other page on the website other than the index/main page, then you actually enter another forum!! I think it is the previous progressive Muslims forum which seems to be completely abandoned...I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me at first and I had problems signing in.. Sometimes I would go in one forum and at other times in the other, and I would notice how there seemed to be far less posts than I previously noticed, thinking I was accessing the same forum the whole time... Also, I was shocked to find out that there are some porn ? links to some ppl's personal websites under the other forum. I pm'd you about that but I guess since it is practically abandoned you did not get it. If you can eliminate the other forum (accessible by clicking on 'Forum' from any other page on the free-minds website) then that would be great as I am sure other new members may get confused. Peace, Omar
  • Some questions 2 'Lote Tree'

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    So complexity can arise from very simplicity. Good. Now this simplicity obviously needs some rules for it to interact with each other?
  • Important Statement made by EX-evolutionist Dr. Gary Parker

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    Hello Truth, I have just had a quick look at the 19.org for Uri Geller threads. I feel that I have wasted my time -( Regards,
  • Plz see this http://creationists.org/debates.html

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    Yes you are right I am PREJUIDICED! I am prejudiced against people's stupidity! And how many times do I have to tell you that I have read the Creationist SOURCE materials, why do I have to rely on second hand knowledge from non-scientist like Dr. Kent? And again I say to you - you are free take Dr Kent seriously that's up to you. My God-given reason tells me I can't... -) Regards
  • Any truth ?

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    E Codes E100 Curcumin, turmeric E101 Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), formerly called lactoflavin (Vitamin G) E101a Riboflavin-5'-Phosphate E102 Tartrazine E103 Chrysoine Resorcinol E104 Quinoline Yellow E105 Fast Yellow AB E106 Riboflavin-5-Sodium Phosphate E107 Yellow 2G E110 Sunset Yellow FCF, Orange Yellow S E111 Orange GGN E120 Cochineal, Carminic acid, Carmines E121 Orcein, Orchil E122 Carmoisine, Azorubine E123 Amaranth E124 Ponceau 4R, Cochineal Red A, Brilliant Scarlet 4R E125 Scarlet GN E126 Ponceau 6R E127 Erythrosine E128 Red 2G E129 Allura Red AC E130 Indanthrene blue RS E131 Patent Blue V E132 Indigo carmine, Indigotine E133 Brilliant Blue FCF E140 Chlorophylls and Chlorophyllins (i) Chlorophylls (ii) Chlorophyllins E141 Copper complexes of chlorophylls and chlorophyllins (i) Copper complexes of chlorophylls (ii) Copper complexes of chlorophyllins E142 Greens S E150a Plain Caramel E150b Caustic sulphite caramel E150c Ammonia caramel E150d Sulphite ammonia caramel E151 Black PN, Brilliant Black BN E152 Black 7984 E153 Carbon black, Vegetable carbon E154 Brown FK, Kipper Brown E155 Brown HT, Chocolate brown HT E160a Alpha-carotene, Beta-carotene, Gamma-carotene E160b Annatto, bixin, norbixin E160c Capsanthin, capsorubin, Paprika extract E160d Lycopene E160e Beta-apo-8'-carotenal (C 30) E160f Ethyl ester of beta-apo-8'-carotenic acid (C 30) E161a Flavoxanthin E161b Lutein E161c Cryptoaxanthin E161d Rubixanthin E161e Violaxanthin E161f Rhodoxanthin E161g Canthaxanthin E162 Beetroot Red, Betanin E163 Anthocyanins E170 Calcium carbonate E171 Titanium dioxide E172 Iron oxides and hydroxides E173 Aluminium E174 Silver E175 Gold E180 Pigment Rubine, Lithol Rubine BK E181 Tannin E200 Sorbic acid E201 Sodium sorbate E202 Potassium sorbate E203 Calcium sorbate E210 Benzoic acid E211 Sodium benzoate E212 Potassium benzoate E213 Calcium benzoate E214 Ethyl para-hydroxybenzoate E215 Sodium ethyl para-hydroxybenzoate E216 Propyl para-hydroxybenzoate E217 Sodium propyl para-hydroxybenzoate E218 Methyl para-hydroxybenzoate E219 Sodium methyl para-hydroxybenzoate E220 Sulphur dioxide E221 Sodium sulphite E222 Sodium hydrogen sulphite E223 Sodium metabisulphite E224 Potassium metabisulphite E225 Sodium sulphite E226 Calcium sulphite E227 Calcium hydrogen sulphite E228 Potassium hydrogen sulphite E230 Biphenyl, diphenyl E231 Orthophenyl phenol E232 Sodium orthophenyl phenol E233 Thiabendazole E234 Nisin E235 Natamycin, Pimaracin E236 Formic acid E237 Sodium formiate E238 Calcium formiate E239 Hexamethylene tetramine, Hexamine E240 Formaldehyde E242 Dimethyl dicarbonate E249 Potassium nitrite E250 Sodium nitrite E251 Sodium nitrate, saltpetre E252 Potassium nitrate (Saltpetre) E260 Acetic acid E261 Potassium acetate E262 Sodium acetates (i) Sodium acetate (ii) Sodium hydrogen acetate (sodium diacetate) E263 Calcium acetate E264 Ammonium acetate E270 Lactic acid E280 Propionic acid E281 Sodium propionate E282 Calcium propionate E283 Potassium propionate E284 Boric acid E285 Sodium tetraborate (borax) E290 Carbon dioxide E296 Malic acid E297 Fumaric acid E300 Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) E301 Sodium ascorbate E302 Calcium ascorbate E303 Potassium ascorbate E304 Fatty acid esters of ascorbic acid (i) Ascorbyl palmitate (ii) Ascorbyl stearate E306 Tocopherol-rich extract (natural) E307 Alpha-tocopherol (synthetic) E308 Gamma-tocopherol (synthetic) E309 Delta-tocopherol (synthetic) E310 Propyl gallate E311 Octyl gallate E312 Dodecyl gallate E315 Erythorbic acid E316 Sodium erythorbate E317 Erythorbin acid E318 Sodium erythorbin E319 Butylhydroxinon E320 Butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA) E321 Butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT) E322 Lecithin E325 Sodium lactate E326 Potassium lactate E327 Calcium lactate E329 Magnesium lactate E330 Citric acid E331 Sodium citrates (i) Monosodium citrate (ii) Disodium citrate (iii) Trisodium citrate E332 Potassium citrates (i) Monopotassium citrate (ii) Tripotassium citrate E333 Calcium citrates (i) Monocalcium citrate (ii) Dicalcium citrate (iii) Tricalcium citrate E334 Tartaric acid (L(+)-) E335 Sodium tartrates (i) Monosodium tartrate (ii) Disodium tartrate E336 Potassium tartrates (i) Monopotassium tartrate (cream of tartar) (ii) Dipotassium tartrate E337 Sodium potassium tartrate E338 Phosphoric acid E339 Sodium phosphates (i) Monosodium phosphate (ii) Disodium phosphate (iii) Trisodium phosphate E340 Potassium phosphates (i) Monopotassium phosphate (ii) Dipotassium phosphate (iii) Tripotassium phosphate E341 Calcium phosphates (i) Monocalcium phosphate (ii) Dicalcium phosphate (iii) Tricalcium phosphate E343 Magnesium phosphates (i) monomagnesium phosphate (ii) Dimagnesium phosphate E350 Sodium malates (i) Sodium malate (ii) Sodium hydrogen malate E351 Potassium malate E352 Calcium malates (i) Calcium malate (ii) Calcium hydrogen malate E353 Metatartaric acid E354 Calcium tartrate E355 Adipic acid E356 Sodium adipate E357 Potassium adipate E363 Succinic acid E365 Sodium fumarate E366 Potassium fumarate E367 Calcium fumarate E370 I,4-Heptonolactone E375 Nicotinic acid, Niacin, Nicotinamide E380 Triammonium citrate E381 Ammoniumferrocitrate E385 Calcium disodium ethylene diamine tetra-acetate (Calcium disodium EDTA) E400 Alginic acid E401 Sodium alginate E402 Potassium alginate E403 Ammonium alginate E404 Calcium alginate E405 Propane-1,2-diol alginate (Propylene glycol alginate) E406 Agar E407 Carrageenan E407a Processed eucheuma seaweed E410 Locust bean gum (Carob gum) E412 Guar gum E413 Tragacanth E414 Acacia gum (gum arabic) E415 Xanthan gum E416 Karaya gum E417 Tara gum E418 Gellan gum E420 Sorbitol (i) Sorbitol (ii) Sorbitol syrup E421 Mannitol E422 Glycerol E425 Konjac (i) Konjac gum (ii) Konjac glucomannane E430 Polyoxyethylene ( stearate E431 Polyoxyethylene (40) stearate E432 Polyoxyethylene (20) sorbitan monolaurate (polysorbate 20) E433 Polyoxyethylene (20) sorbitan monooleate (polysorbate 80) E434 Polyoxyethylene (20) sorbitan monopalmitate (polysorbate 40) E435 Polyoxyethylene (20) sorbitan monostearate (polysorbate 60) E436 Polyoxyethylene (20) sorbitan tristearate (polysorbate 65) E440 Pectins (i) pectin (ii) amidated pectin E441 Gelatine E442 Ammonium phosphatides E444 Sucrose acetate isobutyrate E445 Glycerol esters of wood rosins E450 Diphosphates (i) Disodium diphosphate (ii) Trisodium diphosphate(iii) Tetrasodium diphosphate (iv) Dipotassium diphosphate (v) Tetrapotassium diphosphate (vi) Dicalcium diphosphate (vii) Calcium dihydrogen diphosphate E451 Triphosphates (i) Pentasodium triphosphate (ii) Pentapotassium triphosphate E452 Polyphosphates (i) Sodium polyphosphates (ii) Potassium polyphosphates (iii) Sodium calcium polyphosphate (iv) Calcium polyphophates E459 Beta-cyclodextrine E460 Cellulose (i) Microcrystalline cellulose (ii) Powdered cellulose E461 Methyl cellulose E462 Ethyl cellulose E463 Hydroxy propyl cellulose E464 Hydroxy propyl methyl cellulose E465 Ethyl methyl cellulose E466 Carboxy methyl cellulose, Sodium carboxy methyl cellulose E468 Crosslinked sodium carboxymethyl cellulose E469 Enzymically hydrolysed carboxymethylcellulose E470a Sodium, potassium and calcium salts of fatty acids E470b Magnesium salts of fatty acids E471 Mono- and diglycerides of fatty acids (glyceryl monostearate, glyceryl distearate) E472a Acetic acid esters of mono- and diglycerides of fatty acids E472b Lactic acid esters of mono- and diglycerides of fatty acids E472c Citric acid esters of mono- and diglycerides of fatty acids E472d Tartaric acid esters of mono- and diglycerides of fatty acids E472e Mono- and diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono- and diglycerides of fatty acids E472f Mixed acetic and tartaric acid esters of mono- and diglycerides of fatty acids E473 Sucrose esters of fatty acids E474 Sucroglycerides E475 Polyglycerol esters of fatty acids E476 Polyglycerol polyricinoleate E477 Propane-1, 2-diol esters of fatty acids, propylene glycol esters of fatty acids E478 Lactylated fatty acid esters of glycerol and propane-1 E479b Thermally oxidized soya bean oil interacted with mono- and diglycerides of fatty acids E481 Sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate E482 Calcium stearoyl-2-lactylate E483 Stearyl tartrate E491 Sorbitan monostearate E492 Sorbitan tristearate E493 Sorbitan monolaurate E494 Sorbitan monooleate E495 Sorbitan monopalmitate E500 Sodium carbonates (i) Sodium carbonate (ii) Sodium hydrogen carbonate (Bicarbonate of soda) (iii) Sodium sesquicarbonate E501 Potassium carbonates (i) Potassium carbonate (ii) Potassium hydrogen carbonate E503 Ammonium carbonates (i) Ammonium carbonate (ii) Ammonium hydrogen carbonate E504 Magnesium carbonates (i) Magnesium carbonate (ii) Magnesium hydroxide carbonate (syn. Magnesium hydrogen carbonate) E507 Hydrochloric acid E508 Potassium chloride E509 Calcium chloride E510 Ammonium chloride, ammonia solution E511 Magnesium chloride E512 Stannous chloride E513 Sulphuric acid E514 Sodium sulphates (i) Sodium sulphate (ii) Sodium hydrogen sulphate E515 Potassium sulphates (i) Potassium sulphate (ii) Potassium hydrogen sulphate E516 Calcium sulphate E517 Ammonium sulphate E518 Magnesium sulphate, Epsom salts E519 Copper sulphate E520 Aluminium sulphate E521 Aluminium sodium sulphate E522 Aluminium potassium sulphate E523 Aluminium ammonium sulphate E524 Sodium hydroxide E525 Potassium hydroxide E526 Calcium hydroxide E527 Ammonium hydroxide E528 Magnesium hydroxide E529 Calcium oxide E530 Magnesium oxide E535 Sodium ferrocyanide E536 Potassium ferrocyanide E538 Calcium ferrocyanide E540 Dicalcium diphosphate E541 Sodium aluminium phosphate, acidic E542 Bone phosphate E543 Calcium sodium polyphosphate E544 Calcium polyphosphate E545 Aluminium polyphosphate E550 Sodium silicate E551 Silicon dioxide (Silica) E552 Calcium silicate E553a (i) Magnesium silicate (ii) Magnesium trisilicate E553b Talc E554 Sodium aluminium silicate E555 Potassium aluminium silicate E556 Calcium aluminium silicate E558 Bentonite E559 Aluminium silicate (Kaolin) E570 Stearic acid (Fatty acid) E572 Magnesium stearate, calcium stearate E574 Gluconic acid E575 Glucono-delta-lactone E576 Sodium gluconate E577 Potassium gluconate E578 Calcium gluconate E579 Ferrous gluconate E585 Ferrous lactate E620 Glutamic acid E621 Monosodium glutamate E622 Monopotassium glutamate E623 Calcium diglutamate E624 Monoammonium glutamate E625 Magnesium diglutamate E626 Guanylic acid E627 Disodium guanylate, sodium guanylate E628 Dipotassium guanylate E629 Calcium guanylate E630 Inosinic acid E631 Disodium inosinate E632 Dipotassium inosinate E633 Calcium inosinate E634 Calcium 5'-ribonucleotides E635 Disodium 5'-ribonucleotides E636 Maltol E637 Ethyl maltol E640 Glycine and its sodium salt E900 Dimethyl polysiloxane E901 Beeswax, white and yellow E902 Candelilla wax E903 Carnauba wax E904 Shellac E905 Microcrystalline wax E907 Crystalline wax E910 L-cysteine E912 Montanic acid esters E913 Lanolin, sheep wool grease E914 Oxidized polyethylene wax E915 Esters of Colophane E920 L-cysteine hydrochloride E921 L-cysteine hydrochloride monohydrate E924 Potassium bromate E925 Chlorine E926 Chlorine dioxide E927b Carbamide E928 Benzole peroxide E938 Argon E939 Helium E941 Nitrogen E942 Nitrous oxide E948 Oxygen E950 Acesulfame K E951 Aspartame E952 Cyclamic acid and its Na and Ca salts E953 Isomalt E954 Saccharin and its Na, K and Ca salts E957 Thaumatin E959 Neohesperidine DC E965 Maltitol (i) Maltitol (ii) Maltitol syrup E966 Lactitol E967 Xylitol E999 Quillaia extract E1103 Invertase E1105 Lysozyme E1200 Polydextrose E1201 Polyvinylpyrrolidone E1202 Polyvinylpolypyrrolidone E1400 Dextrin E1401 Modified starch E1402 Alkaline modified starch E1403 Bleached starch E1404 Oxidized starch E1410 Monostarch phosphate E1412 Distarch phosphate E1413 Phosphated distarch phosphate E1414 Acetylated distarch phosphate E1420 Acetylated starch, mono starch acetate E1421 Acetylated starch, mono starch acetate E1422 Acetylated distarch adipate E1430 Distarch glycerine E1440 Hydroxy propyl starch E1441 Hydroxy propyl distarch glycerine E1442 Hydroxy propyl distarch phosphate E1450 Starch sodium octenyl succinate E1451 Acetylated oxidised starch E1505 Triethyl citrate E1510 Ethanon E1518 Glyceryl triacetate (triacetin) E1520 Propylene glycol
  • Shouldn't we BE LIKE GOD?

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    Peace. Apologies for taking so long to get back, I?ve been getting jammed up in another debate. When I said ?permission to lie in kindness? perhaps I didn?t word it properly, what I was basically trying to say was that, for example, we lie when we tell someone a joke, but God knows that we don?t mean it really. So in effect we are lying but not with the intention of lying, this is totally different to lying to go against or cover up the truth. To be honest I have realised that throughout the time we have been debating here, we?ve been wasting our energy, when there are more important things to discuss, like understanding the concept of ?Sollaa?. I think the best thing we can do is make sure we don?t fall into idol worship, whatever our opinions are, that?s the most important thing. Sorry for being the party pooper, but omar_e19?s thread at http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3267 made me realise that although I came in with the intention of avoiding another split in ideologies, this thread ended up as advertisements for personal opinion. He wisely said ?there appears to be much confusion and disunity amongst all the God fearing Quran Alone followers, to the point that much precious time is being wasted instead of advancing our common goal of spreading God?s truth? I?m tired of this debate as I am sure mz357 is. So all I want to do now is to shake hands with mz357 and carry on with him and others in more important threads. Mz357 and me are friends, and this thread is open for whoever wants to contribute, but I must say it is getting stale now? Peace. Natu on the line.
  • Part II

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    Salamun Alaikum, I have been reading you guys' responses and I just wanted to take time to thank you all for your advice and experiences. Many of your suggestions are already part of my reality. As a matter of fact, the very idea of leaving the country came from a couple of family members and friends. Their perspective " If you are so concerned about every aspect of this society to the point where you can't even do or buy the things that most Americans do, then why don't you leave?" They basically think that this behavior is paranoia and/or borderline insane, and, for a moment in time, I considered their perspective. My cognitive disonance will always exists, I suppose....despite its oppresive foundation, this country reared me and, more importantly, has allowed me to rear myself (irrespective of the medium of this "freedom"). Thanks again for your advice and assistance everyone ONE