General Issues / Questions

Peace be upon you Born Again, Ansar is just the local father of flame, don't pay him and his idols any mind, they are harmless.

Dear warda, The thorny headed worm is an analogy and this literary device is used by all thinkers - he's putting forward the stupidity of the people who can't recognise the problem. He actually acknowledges the greater IQ overall of Jewish people over the average population and puts forward good arguments as to why people should think about the issue. You have obviously just skimmed over the site - further reading will show you that there are arguments that really need answers. Also he says to his detractors - don't ask whether I am anti-semitic, ask whether I am right. It's not a hate site like you might think - it raises some of the most pertinent questions in relation to the Jewish question without promoting racial hatred. He criticises organised Jewry rather than Jewish people. Regards. Dear Truth, The thorny headed worm is supposed to be the Jewry parasite, right or not? Even if he acknowledges the greater IQ overall of Jewish people over the average population (which is actually just another stereotype), it is purest Nazi-propaganda and racism. He is degrading Jews to a parasite worm ? how shall I call this??? I?ve read the page ? and not only once since I wondered and wanted to find out what you like so much about it. It is obvious that English is not my mother language, (it is German) but I think that my English is good enough to understand this kind of crap. he's putting forward the stupidity of the people who can't recognise the problem What is the problem? The dirty Jewish worm in the pure poor Western Society? What is the Jewish question? Why is it a question at all and for who? And what is organized Jewry? Every Jewish community has to be organized somehow, just as the Muslims do. Now, whenever there are more than 50 organized Jews it becomes a threat to the world? I don?t believe in such things like Jewish world conspiracy. Sure, there is a Jewish lobby in the States, and yes, they do their best to help Israel. But that?s it. Not more and not less. Everywhere in the world you can find alliances for or against a country. This is politics. But as long as they?re not Jews, nobody cares too much about it. We can fight it politically, we have to reveal the unfairness in the treatment of the Israelis and the Palestinians, but let?s do it on a human developed level without falling backwards to the scheme where Jews are evil parasitic worms. So I agree here with Elke when she sais I'd rather have an approach based on facts and figures - and let the people draw their own conclusions... And to make this clear I am absolutely against Israels policy of occupation, discrimination, of war and state terror against Palestinians. However, we don?t discuss Israel but anti-Semitism. And now I would like to say something on that one I understand the position Germans have had to take on this for over 50 years of constantly being reminded how terrible they were etc. The shoa-business that organised Jewry is conducting is like an albatross around the necks of the German people. Where do you get this from? This is a statement, which gives me a creep Shoa-business of organised Jewry?Do you know what you are saying? Which Jewry organization after WWII was able to built up the ?Shoa-business?? There was hardly anybody left from hundreds of thousands of people. Now the few who survived the camps more dead than alive and who stayed in Germany they didn?t talk about their experiences. The revolting Christian Atheistic German youth of the late 60s asked their parents about that horrible crime they committed. In the late 60s Germany and the Germans started to think about their past. , very slowly the interest increased, witnesses of both sides started to talk, and movies were shown. Actually it was an American movie ?Holocaust? which woke up the common sense for what they did to others. Therefore, since 35 years there is a strong movement to find the truth ? not only about the Shoa but about the war and occupation of land as well as the Nazi Ideology as a whole ? and to uphold the memory of these years of unique horror. And I personally welcome this attitude to their own history a lot. See, if, for example, the US doesn?t do that kind of work regarding the genocide of the Native Americans or the Slavery ? it is their fault, they ought to do so. If France and GB doesn?t do so regarding their crimes as in Algeria or any other colonized country ? it is their fault, they ought to do so, too. And when the Russians never discuss the time of Stalinism where Millions died as well ? then they are wrong. And so on and so forth?. It is not the Germans who are wrong in remembering that they occupied half of Europe and killed masses of innocent people. It is not the poor Germans who have to suffer from remembering their own cruelty. If it was not for the hundreds of billions of Deutsch marks that have gone to Israel courtesy of the German taxpayer/economy the Israelis would have collapsed long ago. Maybe, don?t know about that. Think about this fact - you are allowed in all western countries to deny the existence of God - but you are not even allowed to QUESTION the details of the holocaust. Think about that carefully. After I thought about it carefully, I ask you What happens in Germany or somewhere else when you question a DETAIL of the Holocaust? Answer Nothing. You may do so. It may only happen something when you deny the Holocaust as a whole. The Holocaust is not something to believe in or not. It happened, and it was then when the first and only time in human history factories were built for the one and only reason to kill masses of people. As a German - think - if you want to know who your master is then ask whom you cannot criticise. That way you'll know how far over the barrell you are. This is not about antisemitism - it's about truth. As a German I can tell you that my master has nothing to do with ?organized Jewry?. And Germans are not only able to criticise whatever and whomever they want, they in fact do criticize current German politics regarding WW II. Unfortunately, there are still some hundreds or thousands who wish the old days back and still or again see the ?organized Jewry? as a worm. You can see them marching through the streets from time to time, and nothing happens as long as they keep up certain rules. So, sorry, what you stated above is not about truth - but it is antisemitism. And the Web page of Mr. Birdman is in fact promoting racial hatred. Peace for everybody warda

Peace be upon you Farouk, Yes, I am aware of that box set. I was trying to wait and see if I can view it before buying it. I already have all three movies so I want to see what else they offer. I am interested in the DVD regarding the philosophy, but if its like the website philosophy section, I am not really interested. I want to hear the authors tell thier understanding (if they really did write it, there is a court case going on), I don't want to hear a bunch of western psychologists with thier nonsense. Theyve never understood this philosphy which is why Frued only came up with three faculties (Id , super id, etc) but the people before him like the Africans of Kemet and the Asian people have a deeper understanding of the MIND/SPIRIT.

Peace be upon you Sabo, The Quran doesn't say that the poor have to go there, only those who can Will the poor ever find a way to it, EVERY YEAR? Should people on the otherside of the world have to spend big money to get there while those who live there just skip on over? Does that sound like a fair logical system? Regarding the poor, I was referring to past understanding that I am not sure fits anymore, but it was once thought that we slaughter animals at the so called pilgrimmage and feed the poor, if this is still your understanding, then thaty is what I meant by the poor who are suppossed to be there getting fed by the food. Certainly it will be the poor from that area, not the poor over here in my neighborhood, because they cant afford to travel to the otherside of the world.

Peace be upon you Truth, You are absolutely correct in your reminder. The word "quran" only means reading, something we read. If these reading comes from the God it will be truthful, containing no contradictions. (1746) And We made/put on their hearts covers/protections that (E) they understand/learn/know it, and in their ears a heavy weight, and if you remembered your Lord in the reading alone, they turned away on their backs/ends hastening away with aversion When we call to mind the God by means of TRUTH based on reason, they turn away, but if we bring some idol along with it, even an book raised in partnership with the God, they will start to listen. The God descened the TRUTH, humans write it in Books. This reading was written by a human who was able to "talk to the God" , thats what a prophet is, one who talks to the God. This is what Musa teaches us, we can all reach this level. But there are those who kill the prophets, they don't want you to know you can do this. So again, it is the God alone, not 'Quran alone", thats not even the Title of the criterion, just a description among other descriptions for a message that is above names from One who is above names.

This is a post of mine from another forum regarding this issue........... From what I've been taught as being a Christian my whole life.... Yes God does control all the elements....... afterall, He's the one who created them. LOL. TV evangelists are the last people on earth to get an impression from. Even Christians can't stand them. There was recently an article, some bishop of Cantebury or something said that people have questioned their faith in God over the Tsunami disaster. Personally, I believe that this was not a test by God, nor a punishment. It was an opportunity. If you look back to the beginning of ANY scripture..... you can see the underlying message there....... when Adam and Eve named all the creatures and birds and everything that crawled. Basically what this is saying is....... we see, we percieve, and we name it. Now, we saw this Tsunami, we percieved it as a bad thing, so therefore we called it a bad thing. However, what we percieve may not be exactly correct. It's just our perception. We created the idea of good and bad..... only God knows what is what........ like I said, afterall, he created it. We only label it........ we have faults. The reason I call it an opportunity is because.... 1. Again, in the beginning EVERYTHING God made was good. That immediately tells you that nothing God creates is going to bad NOTHING. Which is why I am against original sin. Why would God do that to us? That tree in the garden of eden wasn't a test either. moving along....... 2. Think about this........ what major life lessons have you learned during the happiest moments in life? you would probably answer none.... because when we are at our happiest..... we are in a simple state of bliss.......... but when we suffer, that is when we contemplate all of life's meanings. It is through hardship that we discover our connection with God, life's purpose, and how we treat others as well as ourselves. This may be hard to swallow, but the Tsunami was a blessing. Yes, alot of people died.... but where do you think they went? If you believe in life after death.... then all those people dead on the shore shouldn't bother you..... THEY MET GOD. And if I had a choice between sitting here on the PC talking to you, and meeting face to face with God, I would rather have the latter. Those bodies on the shores are nothing but empty packages..... those aren't people anymore.... they are the simple shell that carried their soul....... the package is empty now..... their soul is else where. It's like crying over a damaged box when you know the contents are safely placed on your shelf. As for the people left behind..... the children without parents, the parents without children..... only God knows their future, and none of us knows what God has in store for them....... through this disaster.......... they now have an opportunity to look towards their earthly brothers and sisters in a compassionate way that they may have never used before. Instead of breaking their heart, this will also open thier hearts.... something that may have never occured had it not been for the Tsunami.

Peace is our weapon against fascist warmongers. Peace as long as these warmongers religious fanatics stay within their borders. They will get no peace by invading Iraq based on their media deceptions and lies. Americans must realize that they can't impose their corrupt oppressive corporate rule commonly known as "democracy" in muslim world. I support Iraq Resistance and pray for these brave men daily. Faith Freedom is run by people who are allergic to Qur'an, Muhammad, Islam, Muslims all they have hatred. They live to hate muslims oppose muslims find all stupid logic to justify killing of innocent women, children, unarmed civilians, unarmed injured. I decided not to post anything there because it will be a waste of time.

Peace bro brook bro i known a little about Turkey many of the information i get about turkey from mainly sunni peoples who r against the seculerism rule n as a former sunni i have still some of the sunni influence on my mind whicih i,m trying to get rid of peace

Peace Shamsul I believe anything in excess does one no good. Perhaps a moderate amount would not be harmful, I would say the same about ciggerettes if they weren't dosed in chemicals. Honestly, I do not really know a great deal about our green little friend so I can't offer more than an opinion without fact. However, I believe weed, opium and tobacco were used by 'primitive' cultures of the past and perhaps still is, I believe the amount is key much like chlorine in our water. I don't think banning products helps, it just tends to create a black market. pz

Salaamun alaikum, Alhamdulillah, I believe that this reading of al-quraan is closest yet to the ultimate truth which Alllah has set for us. I had always wondered what the point was of telling us these stories, especially the stories of Prophets who mentioned only once and so on. What is the point of these mentionings if not as lessons ? We need to penetrate deeply into these interpretations to learn wisdom for our own lives.

Salaam, does he enjoin us to worship or to serve (and praise) ? Elke

Salaam Shaunee, Your questions were does the Quran in some way replace all scriptures before it? I was told on another site that the Quran is sufficient enough, and that Muslims do not go by any other book..... but isn't it somewhere in the Quran where it is said that these books were sent down to the prophets beforehand? What is the statis of the ancient scriptures, and how or why does the Quran superceed them? The reason I ask is because..... it seems to me that by rejecting any and all scriptures besides Quran, and focusing on only one prophet would seem like all the other prophets and scriptures are worthless in some way. I can't see how that could be. I don't know if you already read Quran, but if you do, you'll realize that the most important biblical themes are told again, sometimes with rectifications, like Jesus-Issa being not the Gods son, but a prophet like the other prophets. Also rectification of the adultery punishment... Also, if you read the sura "the prophets" you'll see that in quran we are supposed to accept and respect all the prophets of God, they were all bearers of the same message, which has been reiterated only because we humans changed it's sense and perverted it. "Traditionnal" muslims or I'd rather say sunnis actually do focus on the prophet, but what we try to do here is to focus on the message and to recover it's primary sense. I'm sure that, may be Marie, may be someone else with a quran browser and/or a better memory than I , will be able to give you the relevant verses! Elke

What a prefect opportunity. Good luck! I would place an emphasis on women?s rights and roles in the Quran. Be honest and don?t hide anything.

Salaam Taj, Until their punishment came, Lot?s people still had a chance to repent. This appears with other Messengers, i.e. Noah. How much time did his people have? Hundreds of years before their punishment came. Could anybody be more consistent with his sin than Noah's people!? Length of time really does not matter, but the path tread does. wink Not only have you already agreed with me in what I said, but now I'm confused as to why I'm giving you a response to this. Oh yea, you said they had a chance, we all have a chance, but who will take it and who will not, think about it. Marriage is one of the Halal ways for purity and self-straightening while getting the proper satisfaction. Fasting is another alternative but only few individuals would choose it, usually those who cannot afford the marriage expenses. Please, let me know if purity is given or is it something that must be grasped at through one's efforts. Btw, 'daughters' may not refer to Lot?s daughters in particular, because how many daughters did he have anyway? Did he have enough daughters for all the men of his community? So "daughters" could most probably mean the daughters of the clan. (Maybe that gives us the idea that he was the oldest man among his people). Yes, this is a good point. Maybe giving the sinners to the sinners makes sense in this here instance. Ok, Joe! The reaction of Jonah is opposite of Lot's, right? Lot didn't lose hope in his people and to you, Joe, that was something wrong to do! Here is what you wrote earlier Taj, I already pointed out to you how this hadeeth is not according to what you say. Jonah did not lose hope in his people. It is not there. You are making it up. Let's simply stick with what we are given. One decided to take off from his duties whereas the other remained steadfast. Now how do you consider the reaction of Jonah, who you say went running away, a mistake? shock Yes, a terrible mistake. What do you think, it was a blessing or something good on his part? Again, Jonah is not running away from lost hope in his people, he ran away from his duties. His people were clearly believers . Credibility is a synonym to Rasool. Do tell! Al Hamdu Le Ellah D The Ayah clearly announces Jonah as one of the Faithful. And whose better testimony than Allah So who can protest to that? Taj, it is said not to imitate this persona and Jonah is given the description of almudhadeen . lol Now I don't know if you like to just see rusul in a positive light, but there are many descriptions applied to them, from losers, rejectors, envoys, faithful, etc. You choose the one you like best. I'll just take it as it is. Joe

Peace be upon you SA, Yes, you made perfect sense. SO it follows that if "good" and "bad" are just energies, then the God is still above the energy. Thats all I was saying. We cannot equate the God with the Good Energy that is opposite the bad enegy, He is above both.

Peace truth I remember the original article well - thanks for posting the follow up! salaams asdfjk

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they can be showen in comedy programs or the most silly things human can do... lol lol

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Salaam Green Leaves, I'll ask my neighbor when the grand opening of this one was...her brother died and she was crying home all day...the men all went to the cemetary, while she was home all alone ( and I when I asked why she did not go, she explained me the hadith I noted above. Oh, God! That is really bad ( Taj