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  • God Alone Support System

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    Salaam. I haven't attended a traditional Friday jumah for some time now and have finally been relieved of the guilty feeling of not going. I knew that I got absolutely nothing out of the khutbas most of the time (here and there a khatib would say something inspirational, but rarely), but jumah was this "obligation" that I wasn't fulfilling. Since coming to God alone, I'm listening more to my own heart because that's where I think God speaks to you, but it leaves me with a social dilemma that I would like any of your imput on. I do not attend the masjid for spiritual reasons anymore; therefore, neither do my children. I'm wondering what others have done to fill the social void that is created, especially those who have children. I'm not saying I have disassociated myself with my sunni and shia friends, but we no longer share the same belief system, and this makes the relationship different. I guess I'm just thinking of my children feeling isolated. Any moms and dads out there with advice? Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place.
  • WHO HERE ARE THE GOD ALONE PEOPLE...?

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    Peace everyone, In the interest of promoting unity and to give people a chance to express their position, I would like to start a list of people who consider themselves to be serving God alone with their lives. This is meant to be a list of people who are interested in making their best efforts to develop themselves spiritually and materially in a way that serves God alone. Since I am not to be the judge of who is and who isn't true to this cause, I will happily add your name to the list, if you ask me to. God, being the final judge of our intentions and actions, will decide our position on the Day of Judgement. Starting such a list, which doesn't discriminate against people, is an inherently difficult task. I will attempt to be fair, and add people in an alphabetical order, rather than any other way. If you have suggestions for improvement, please let me know. I have to add that those who choose not to add themselves to such a list, are doing no wrong, since a list kept by us humans is completely meaningless when it comes to how God will judge us in the hereafter. The (non-exhaustive) list of God alone people Alireza Ash Shuura dhanti dhulqarnain (Allah and Qur'an only and alone) FearfulOfAllah Moby Mommy24 Sara savage_carrot YankeeDoodle zenje
  • Any Public Speakers Here?

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    Peace, I wanted to ask if any people on this forum (only those in the US) are capable of publicly speaking or conducting interviews? There is some discussion for a publicity drive in the US to promote the God Alone message over the comming period. Layth
  • 99 Names of Prophet Muhammed?

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    Just received an email with the "99 Names of Prophet Muhammed." Some of the names were, "Hamid, Noor, Mashir, Mamood..." To me this sounds like trying to elevate him to godlike status by giving him 99 names as God has 99 attributes, basically putting him as an equal to God. I've never heard of any other prophets with "99 names." roll Is this more innovation from certain sects? I personally believe so since Quran tells us the Messenger is no more than a plain warner 2.119 Verily We have sent thee in truth as a bearer of glad tidings and a warner But of thee no question shall be asked of the Companions of the Blazing Fire. 5.19 O People of the Book! Now hath come unto you, making (things) clear unto you, Our Apostle, after the break in (the series of) our apostles, lest ye should say "There came unto us no bringer of glad tidings and no warner (from evil)" But now hath come unto you a bringer of glad tidings and a warner (from evil). And God hath power over all things. 7.184 Do they not reflect? Their companion is not seized with madness he is but a perspicuous warner. 7.188 Say "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as God willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith."
  • The Qu'ran=Liberty From The Shackles Of The Mullah

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    peace, this is not my article, written by Samina Qamar, as you can see when you click the link, a great, long article that completely tears apart the mental disease of religious fundamentalism http//www.quaideazam.org/ This is Not Islam. This is the Mullahs. They have hijacked Islam", declared our President George Bush. This unorthodox statement could have been attributed to Mohammed Ali Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan or Sir Mohammed Iqbal, the greatest Islamic thinker of the 20th century, the man who gave the Pakistan idea. Both were dubbed as heretics by the Mullahs. One thousand Mullahs of the India of 1947 signed an edict declaring them apostate and heretic. Such were the founders of Pakistan. How did the Mullahs hijack Pakistan? That is another question. It is however, George Bush, President of the United States of America who made this bold statement, referring to the Fundamentalist Mullahs. "We will eradicate them," he remarked. I cannot describe my joy at hearing this. I think this is the statement of the millennium. It heralds a new era for the Muslims. I am very much a Muslim and I am a humble student of the Quran. I believe that Mohammed Al'Rasool Allah ( Mohammed, the Messenger of Allah ) was the greatest human being in the history of all mankind who fought all his life against the fundamentalists of his time and gloriously defeated them. There must be a system of social justice and equality that we all deeply desire to see established, a system that grants eternal peace and happiness to our world. Mohammed's ISLAM, to me, is indeed such a system. It was designed to end all forms of human misery and exploitation. Americanism is as close as can be to Mohammed's dream. Just as establishing the United States was no easy a task, similarly, establishing Islam, fourteen hundred years ago, was an ordeal. The forces of evil are hard to eradicate. The system of human exploitation is indeed a complex and highly organized system. The Quran educates us in its very unique style, that there are three concrete embodiments of this abstract system of human exploitation which it regards as evil. They reflect evil. They are symbolic of evil. Together they constitute the three cornerstones of what it regards " The Satanic System ". The Pharaoh the symbol of absolute power and authoritarianism. Might is Right! The Qaroon the symbol of capitalism Accumulating wealth .is the ultimate joy. The Ha'man the Religious Leader. The Mullah, the Priest. He controls the heartthrobs of the masses and through sermons and rituals diverts their attention towards the hereafter. Far away from reality, distancing from the problems of the real life, by telling tall tales about rewards in the next world, he keeps the masses engaged. The purpose is to tame the masses, preventing them from struggle against those that are in power and in control of the wealth. Ha'man organizes a system of rituals and prayers and promotes beliefs in magical happenings. Also he is the authority that proclaims the doctrine of the Divine Rights of the Kings! The grateful priest cloaks the Kings in sanctity and respect! All three forces of evil are thus sanctified and become The Will of God. The more one ponders over the system that controls all the misery in our world, the more one acknowledges the simple manner in which the Quran identifies these enemies of mankind. The Quran is not about any mystical experience. Exploitation and misery are physical, not metaphysical. They are real. The Quran defines realistically these problems. It offers a realistic solution too. Through Religion, human exploitation is enforced via superstition. Ignorance will sooner or later bring misery to the people. This misery of a religious culture will assume titanic proportions. The more the misery the merrier and stronger gets to be the system of exploitation. What a vicious circle! Whenever and wherever there is organized human exploitation the end result is poverty misery and disease. Hunger and suffering run hand in hand. They are the essential sequel of a society that engages in magical belief systems and irrational thinking. Religiosity and human misery run hand in hand thus becoming a vicious circle " Daira tul Suu" in words of the Quran. The Quran defies all these institutions. It demands of its believers to reject their authority. This is the first step towards God. The worst form of human exploitation is achieved through Organized Religion. In fact no human exploitation is possible without this. Organized Religion is the keystone upon which rests the whole infrastructure of any system of human exploitation. Laws aimed at exploiting the poor are always framed in the name of God and thus sanctified forever. Who can dare challenge them? The poor on the other hand engage themselves in rituals in the hope of finding a solace for their miseries. Happiness and joy are forbidden. Those that seek joy shall soon find themselves in hell and this is sermonized from the pulpits. The miserable and the poor shall be the Kings in Heaven, is the promising note that keeps this whole system going. The religious leaders engage the poor into stories about their glorious past when everything was so good, or about the hereafter when everything will be so good. A state of denial regarding the miserable present is thus achieved. The Quran talks about this calling it the grand design of evil. Mohammed's (S) Islam challenged Religion with might and main. Islam challenged its very roots, its very order, its very basis. It declared religion a hoax, a farce organized by the rich upper classes through its charities and donations in order to perpetuate their stronghold over the masses. If poverty and misery are to be eradicated then this root of all evil, Religion had to be attacked. It had to be eliminated before any mass movement of social reform could be effective. The greatest proponent of Religion during the times of Mohammed, was a man , a revered religious scholar by the name Abu Al Hikm. Hikm means wisdom, his name thus meaning The father of Wisdom. Mohammed (S) derogated him fearlessly, declaring him Abu Jahal, "The father of illiteracy and ignorance". Such was the fearless approach of Mohammed the Great,(S) The several wars that Mohammed fought were against the Religious People of his times. In defense the self righteous Religious People of Mecca called him and his followers apostates and heretics. They regarded him evil. The were the men of true faith, they claimed. "They have Hijacked Faith," he taught his followers. The history of mankind may be summed up in one sentence It is a saga of a long war between those that believe in rational reasoning and those that engage in magical thinking. Those that believe in The Laws of Allah that govern all the phenomenon in this Universe are referred to in the Quran as The Believers. Those that believe in magical happenings, engage in senseless ritualistic behaviors in order to please a holy spirit or some other delusional concept of their mind are termed The Disbelievers. They pray and hope that a change will happen magically. They are referred in the Quran as The Kafirs. This difference must be clearly understood. Those that believe in the laws of physics are different from those that anticipate miracles, that will happen in response to rituals. Those that believe that action and hard work are the only means to secure happiness are different from those that sit idle and pray and wish for good to happen miraculously. Those that believe in scientific realities, that water always flow from a higher level to a lower level will plant seeds where they believe water can reach. Those that deny these realities and hope that water will not abide by the physical laws in response to their rituals and prayers shall never see a harvest. It is as simple as that. Some believe in physical laws. Some rely on magic. The former are the True Believers. The latter are The Disbelievers. The Believers desire to be in harmony with the rest of the Universe and seek to establish a system that ensures peace in the world. The Disbelievers are full of sound and fury signifying nothing. The Quran refers to this class of superstitious magical thinkers as the Religious Fundamentalists or The Kafirs. Religious Fundamentalism may be defined as "a state of an intellectual arrest of the developing human brain where opinions become fixed and the capacity for further thinking is lost." As we all know , the healthy human mind continues to grow and develop perhaps throughout life. As more experience is added, more learning occurs and the human personality formulates and reflects in what we call Wisdom. This attainment manifests itself by an expression of a better sense of judgment and a better insight about self, the environment, the society and the world that we live in. This frustrated state of an arrested development of the mind constitutes a condition called Religious Fundamentalism. This is wonderfully described by William James, the American neurologist in his classic work A Variety of Religious Experiences (1902). This treatise clearly describes Religious Fundamentalism as an objective phenomenon. It is not limited to any particular cult or Religion. Essentially all religions and cults manifest this condition. It has one common denominator. A socio-cultural environment that inhibits free thinking. Such an imposition is essential to religion and constitutes the hallmark of all Religious Fundamentalism. This opposition to freedom of thought is a peculiar cultural state. This is achieved by a Thought Police of the Clergy or the Mullahs. The healthy human brain generates a thinking process that delightfully grows and flourishes in an environment of logic and reason. Nothing is more delightful to the brain than deductive reasoning and logic. The hurdles of arithmetic and geometry when solved bring forth a joy that no other human experience equals. Similarly nothing is more traumatic to the human mind than absurdities. Censure of the human intellect at its earliest stages of growth and making the human brain conform to accept absurd and illogical ideas is what essentially happens that leads to the creation of a religious fundamentalist. They are a product of a severe insult and abuse to their intellect. Indeed there is no greater abuse of the human mind than to impose upon it, illogical abstract concepts. A systematic formulation towards acceptance of illogical concepts, suppressing the minds natural growth, creates a storm in the neuronal circuits of the human brain. How it exactly effects the neurochemistry of the healthy mind is hitherto unknown. This insult to the healthy human intellect perpetuating from a state of chronic abuse secondary to persistent exposure to absurdity sets the stage for a functional dys-equilibrium. At a certain stage the human mind finally succumbs. It identifies itself with its abuser. Like every other abuse, this creates a condition of a serious neurochemical dysfunction. This has several psychological manifestations. When a normal human being starts manifesting signs of developing fanatical or fundamentalists traits, (growing a beard, dressing up like a priest, physical appearance reflecting affiliation with a cult, Harey- Krishna clothing, wearing turbans, caps etc.) it is time for caution. It is actually a scream for help. Essentially this is a reaction against intellectual abuse. This stage of unresolved intellectual conflicts in a normal human brain transforms it into a volcano. Individuals with high verbal IQs and a borderline or below average functional IQ make great priests. In essence they are unable to even financially support for their basic needs. Hence the Churches and the Mosques where this bizarre species lives and breeds thriving on alms and donations. This creates an intense state of an extremely low self esteem which manifests in an eternal desire to be treated with special respects. Hence the titles of The Reverend, The Holy, The Ayatollah, The Maulana Sahib, Pundit Ji. As long as this internal turmoil stays dormant it bears a false smile and the world smiles back at them. Their volcanic state is visible only in fiery sermons. They are like time bombs ready to explode at any moment. When this volcano erupts its perils are limitless. Long before William James, The Quran beautifully describes the intellectual misery of the Religious Fundamentalists. The following is a conceptual translation from the first chapter of The Quran, Al'Baqqara, from the very first few pages. Know this with absolute certainty that those that choose to disregard The Laws of Allah and instead engage in magical thinking, whether you warn them or caution them of the dangerous consequences of their magical thinking, they can never have an ability to appreciate an ideology of life based upon rational thinking leading to a program for a peaceful life for all mankind. 26 Allah certifies and endorses that these religious fundamentalists have a mentality that shuts their faculties to perceive and determine. They have limited intellectual capacities and indeed are in the worst form of misery. 27 Amongst the mankind are persons that claim to be the genuine promoters of peace in the world, and believers in Allah or God, and in the hereafter. They (The Fundamentalists) are certainly not the true peace-givers or The Momins. 28 These (religious fundamentalists) attempt to misrepresent Allah and deceive the true peace-enforcers by their holy presentations. They certainly are not The Momins. In reality they are deceiving their own selves, though they do not perceive it that way. 29 They suffer from a SERIOUS MENTAL DISORDER. Their negative attitude towards life, reason and rationality and a denial of the Laws of Allah, tends to aggravate their malady. Indeed they are in a great and painful misery though they tend to deny it. 210 Whenever they ( The Religious Fundamentalists ) are told not to cause chaos and disruption in the world they proclaim that they are in fact out to reform and improve the world. 211 Make no mistake about this that on the contrary it is these very people who are responsible for all the chaos and disruption in the world and theyare unaware of this. 212 Whenever they are asked to enjoin the True Peace Enforcers (The Momins) towards the establishment of peace for the entire mankind, they retort, " It is foolishness to accept this ideology. Shall we become fools too?" Indeed they are the fools but they do not know that. 213 When invited to enroll amongst The Momins (Aa'mino) they say, " Oh yes! Enroll us for we are absolutely convinced about the truth of this ideology! " However, when they are by themselves or with their evil allies they state, " Oh we were just into some mockery and sham!"214 Allaho yastahzee'ou bey him wa yamuddohum fi tughiyaanehim ya'mahoon. Allah makes ridiculous those that make a travesty about the Laws, when blinded by power and ignorance.215 Those that bargain ignorance in exchange for reason and guidance assuming that ignorance is more comfortable, are indeed the losers. Such a deal did not yield them any profit. 216 Their example is of one that lightens a fire in darkness. The flames momentarily illuminate the surroundings but as soon as they are extinguished , one is blinded again. 217 Deaf, dumb and blind are they since they refuse to return to reason. 218 Or imagine the rain laden cloud in the sky, with darkness, thunder and lightening , and they insert their fingers into their ears to avoid the terrifying death from being struck with lightening! An attitude of indifference towards the laws of Allah has similar encompassing dimensions whether these religious persons reject or deny these laws. 219 When lightening flashes in the sky a curtain shuts off the vision. In this momentary brightness one may walk a few steps but then has to stop because of the darkness that ensues immediately. The religious persons, similarly, as a result of their persistent refusal to appreciate the significance of The Laws of Allah, have been blinded by their false beliefs. They have lost the ability to perceive and see. Indeed the Laws of Allah encompass everything. 220 Do you see how wonderfully the Quran describes the Religious Fundamentalists who in the garb of religion, exploit mankind? Indeed this is just one paragraph from the first two or three pages of this Glorious Book. The entire program of the Quran is miraculously amazing. The Quran challenges those who reject its authenticity to come forth with a superior program than what it presents. Here is a program of economic justice and equilibrium encompassing all spheres of life. In essence, the Quran provides the fundamental basis of a program for the establishment of peace and happiness in the world. It calls its program ISLAM, meaning PEACE. It reveals to us that Jesus and Moses and Abraham and Noah were all provided with precisely similar revelations in order to establish God's Order of Peace, Their Program, according to the Quran too, was ISLAM or establishment of PEACE. That is exactly how the Quran describes Jesus in a full chapter devoted to his life and mission and at several other places. The Quran tells us how such previous revelations in the Bible and the Torah had provided guidance to mankind. The Quran exposes these vultures, the fundamentalists, that thrive in the name of God. It describes the journey of mankind from an initial state of eternal happiness , how out of vested interests and temporary gains, these fundamentalists transformed the revelations to suit their ego, and instead of establishment of a the Kingdom of God , this altered Bible established Christianity as an Organized Religion, a kingdom of ceaseless exploitation, how this exploitation engulfed the world and how all religions were made, splitting mankind into schisms and groups. All Mankind is One Nation, declared the Quran fourteen centuries ago. One Nation under God, declares the American Pledge today. What a lovely coincidence!!! Religious fundamentalism is a highly complex mental state. It thrives on hatred and ignorance. When people ask me how old is the Islamic Religion, I reply, it is perhaps only about 300 years old or so. This I say because , fourteen hundred years ago, what Mohammed had preached was not a Religion. His teachings were indeed the most powerful blow to the very foundations of Religion. Religion thrives on ambiguity and miracles. Mohammed declared that in this Universe there is One set of Laws that governs the Universe. These laws are Universal and would not change for anybody no matter what magical words or mumbo jumbo he utters or what rituals he engages in. Mohammed delivered mankind from superstitious beliefs through education and reasoning. Mohammed's ideology of a One Allah, One set of Laws governing the physical universe, Laws that change for no one, challenged the essence of religion which preached that miracles could happen through circumventing these laws. Miracles essentially imply multiple Gods, multiple set of laws! Religion thrives on miraculous happenings. Mohammed's teachings welcomed reason and logic. Through reason and logic one will always arrive at a correct conclusion. There is only One correct answer. There can be several wrong answers but only One correct answer. " Indeed if you disbelieve what I preach, then come up with a reason." The Quran condemned blind faith and promoted conviction. In reality it struck a death-knell to Organized Religion which preached blind faith. In harmony with these laws of Allah and by the Establishment of The System of Government ( Al Salat ) and The System of Economic Justice with charity towards all ( Al Zakat), Mohammed of Arabia was able to liberate mankind from the shackles of exploitation, superstition and religion. What followed was a spread of his order which like wild fire, over a period of just fifty years, engulfed half of the entire globe. From the sands of Arabia to the farthest outskirts of Asia and Africa, the mankind sang the song of Mohammed, the Quran. This meant Liberation from man made religion! Liberation from the shackles of priesthood! Liberation from the injustices of inequality! The Eid is indeed the traditional celebration, rejoicing Freedom and Liberation. It is celebrated in recognition and appreciation of this miraculous revelation called THE QURAN. The Quran is indeed a Charter of Liberty for the entire mankind. It liberated man from the shackles of religion, racial discrimination, economic inequality and granted free Justice . Thus post- Quran mankind dawned into an entirely new era. Indeed the Renaissance of Europe followed by the Industrial Revolution owes its glory to Mohammed of Arabia because of whose painstaking efforts mankind had been liberated from an age of Magic into an age of Reason. Who can deny that the liberation of human thought from the shackles of Religious superstition, the creation of a free society with equal opportunity and justice for all was the first great stride of mankind. This is how The Age of Reason dawned over Europe. Mohammed's Islam was in essence what we may call Quranocracy. Each man was his own priest. There was no middleman between man and God. No agents or priests to grant penance. No perverts listening to confessions. No Mullahs. No Pundits. No Clerics. No Mythology . No superstitious rituals. The hallmark was an establishment of The System of Government ( Al Salat and Al Zakat) creating an equal distribution of wealth in a society in which those with extra money were happy to part with what was over and above their needs in favor of the have-nots for a reward in the hereafter. A connection with the hereafter was the only practical way for the establishment of a stateless and classless society. Where Karl Marx failed, Mohammed succeeded. Within a period of fifty years the very cattle grazing Bedouins were now making great strides in the fields of Astronomy , Algebra and Medicine. They were head and shoulders ahead and above their Asian and European counterparts. How, over the passage of time, Islam got transformed into a Religion is indeed a very painful but an interesting historical phenomenon. This involves the interplay of several forces of human history. Precisely how the radical teachings of Jesus were gradually transformed into a Religion is story well described in the Quran itself. Kings and Rulers out of their vested interests and the human mind with its tendencies to follow the path of least resistance lead to this transformation. Perhaps mankind was still too immature to adopt this highly transcendent ideology. The initial momentum from the period when Islam was a living ideology however provided a great impetus to The Believers. For over six centuries they were the masters of the World in culture and scientific learning. They were pioneers in the fields of Astronomy, Medicine, Algebra, Physics and Chemistry. Their children today spread over half of the globe, are trapped in the very shackles of Religious Fundamentalism from which Islam had once liberated the entire mankind. They can only talk with pride about their glorious past. Nothing but misery is their fate. Such are the rewards of Islamic fundamentalism. This is the fate of a Religious culture. The Quran calls this the Doom. It warns of such a miserable Doom for those that follow the Disbelievers. In contrast, the liberated western philosophers proclaim and propagate the very principles that shine through the verses of the Quran. Slavery is abolished. Democracies are established. A concept of separation of the Church and the State prevails. Fundamental rights of equality and social justice are recognized and adopted. Freedom of speech and freedom to love and live happily is proclaimed. The United States of America is the most illuminating example of people that live in the liberty and freedom which the Quran proclaims. Americanism is Mohammed's ideal. It is a society in which The Quran lives by night and by day. Liberty and Freedom and the pursuit of happiness. What else is the Quran about? The turn of the last century heralded a very strong movement of Islamic reconstruction and the reestablishment of Mohammed's Quranocracy. There was a very strong move towards revivalism of Mohammed's ideology of human liberty and the creation of a free society where mankind could flourish fearlessly. Sir Syed Ahmed Khan ( 189 , Iqbal (1936) and Jinnah ( 194 were the stalwarts of this great movement. Not to forget Ayub Khan, the graduate from Aligarh who strived hard for the establishment of a society free from the shackles of religion. Indeed Pakistan was created in order to reestablish Mohammed's Quranocracy and The System of Al Salat and Al Zakat. The religious fundamentalists opposed the creation of such a Pakistan tooth and nail. To them Al Salat meant "prayers" and Al Zakat meant "alms and charity". When nations decline, their language attains a new passivity of meaning for all phrases that represented alive and active institutions. A negation of self, an order of worship, rituals and prayers, a belief in miraculous happenings and superstition had become the hallmark of this pseudo-Islam of the miserable Muslims. A revival of Mohammed's Quranocracy implied death to their established institutions of exploitation. The capitalists feared that Pakistan was going to be a harbinger of death to their system. After Pakistan was established no effort was spared by the Mullahs in averting the establishment of Quranocracy. Quranocracy meant liberty and freedom from the shackles of the Mullah. "Every person will be his own priest for there is no priesthood in Islam. There is no theocracy in Islam," declared Jinnah the founder of Pakistan. " Islam is prospective, not retrospective. It is a vis a fronte not a vis a tergo." declared Dr. Iqbal. To the Mullahs of the India of the 1940's , Iqbal and Jinnah were evil. They were dubbed as Kafirs or heretics. Iqbal won't go to the mosque to pray and such was Jinnah's misdeed too. Little did they understand what Salat meant for Iqbal and Jinnah. It meant the establishment of The System of which the Islamic prayers were just a part of. The word " Salat" had been reduced to a ritualistic prayer in the period of Islamic decline and decadence. Indeed the words of the Quran had acquired new meanings in the realms of Religion. Iqbal strived hard for the creation of an independent homeland for the Muslims where the System of Salat could again be reestablished. He challenged Communism and Marxism and declared Quranocracy as the System that would imply the ultimate in human equality and happiness. He gave the Pakistan idea, to acquire a country where he desired to establish this system in order to be a model for the rest of the world. He died in 1938. Pakistan was established in 1947. "Kabhi Ay Haqeeqat-e Muntazir Nazar Aa Libase Majaz Mein Kay Hazaron Sajday Tarap Rahay Hein Meri Jabeen e Niaz Mein" Following the creation of Pakistan, the three forces of evil got set to work one more time. The Pharaohs, the Qaroons and the Ha'mans spared no effort in preventing the establishment of Quranocracy. What resulted was a far deeper establishment of a new kind of Islamic Church. This is as evil as evil can ever be. Islam that once symbolized the eradication of these forces of Priesthood that stood between Man and God, itself became its own antithesis. A new cult of Mullahs came into existence. A unique dress code for the clerics developed. A new fashion called the Hijab or the Veil developed for the women, alien to the teachings of the Quran and hitherto unknown in the history of Islam. This Hijab is Islam's latest step towards Catholicism. The Quran does not even mention the word Hijab for dress code. It ordains both men and women to dress modestly. Men must cover their genitals. Women must cover their genitals and their breast. It does recommend that if women go out to places where they fear they may be mistaken for indecent women (hookers) they should clad themselves in a manner as to look distinct and different from these women. There is no Priesthood in Islam. The word Mullah is an Arabic word yet even the use of this word is not found in any of the annals of early Islamic history. The concept of a Mullah's is entirely new. It is a part of the pseudo-Islam. When a schism arrived between God and State the Mullah was born. This schism is against the teachings of the Quran. As evil as any fundamentalism can be, the Muslims today are engulfed by these demons of ignorance. Kings and capitalists promote them because they can sing to their tune. Vice versa they proclaim the Divinity of the Kings. I do not intend to go into details of the various forces of history that seem to be responsible for the reactivating of Mullahism. Its a long story. Mullahism is lawlessness in its worst form. Mullah were reactivated to serve a political purpose. If one word describes the character of a Mullah it is this Character less. A Mullah is anarchy personified. Anarchy is a double edged sword. After it kills the enemy, it comes back at you to get you. Iqbal is known to have remarked in jest, " There are so many similarities between the Mullahs and the snakes. Just as there are different types of snakes there are different types of Mullahs. However there is one difference between the snakes and the Mullahs. Amongst the snakes you will find one type which is nonpoisonous. There is no such type amongst the Mullahs." What an observation.! But what about the "Ulema", the religious scholars? Well, lets ask the Quran what it implies by the word "Ulema." In our world of today the word Ulema implies an Islamic Cleric or Scholar. This word is mentioned only twice in the Quran and on both occasions it implies The Scientist. " Have you seen that Allah causes water to fall from the sky and produces therewith fruit of diverse hues, and among the hills are streaks of white and red, of diverse hues and some raven-black. And of men and beast and cattle, in like manner, diverse hues. It is the ULEMA amongst His servants that are able to appreciate the magnitude of this creation and the Laws governing these and feel the wonder and are struck with awe! " The above verses bear a clear reference not to Religion but to the Sciences of Geology. Alas! The Islamic Ulema of our times have since long, relinquished from this task of studying sciences and are absorbed into activities that are only rituals and ceremonial. Institutional Religion involves such absurd complexities that there is no time left to study the sciences. "They have hijacked Islam," remarked President Bush. I again say that this is indeed the statement of the Millennium. Hallelujah !!! How can one even think of these beasts as being representatives of the greatest peace lover that ever lived upon this earth, Mohammed, who named his entire mission of life as Islam, meaning peace. If we do not have another Jinnah or Ayub Khan to fearlessly liberate us from these forces of evil then let President Bush do that. Allah and his Messenger will be so delighted that at last there is a someone that is fearlessly going after them. We need to expose the real faces of these charlatans and clowns who are a disgrace to humanity. The name Mohammed's , the most beautiful name, shall forever continue to shine, as the name of a man that delivered mankind from these evil mongers and haters of everything that is good and beautiful. When Mustafa Kamal Pasha, the founder of modern Turkey launched his movement of eradicating the Islamic world of the Mullahs, the women as far away from Turkey in the Punjab, sang songs in his praise. Way Mustafa Kamala Teriyan door Balawaan, Tenu Rab diyan Rakhan. O' Mustafa Kamal , God Bless you! May you never see any pain! May you live for ever. Women of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and the entire Islamic world are looking forwards for their saviors to arrive. Mullahism is a version not of Islam but of mental illness. Mental illness destroys an individual. Mullahism destroys nations and people. The bells of Liberty are ringing loud in the Islamic world. This pseudo-Islam, manufactured by the Taliban of different ages and times, must go. This is the hour of The Proclamation. peace
  • Why the sunni-bashing?

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    Peace The issue to me isn't how wrong they are, but to figure out and proclaim the true system of God. Can we please stop the sunni-bashing? Sha
  • The Medina Charter by The Prophet Muhammad

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    peace, THE MEDINA CHARTER (FN11) In the name of God the Compassionate, the Merciful. (1) This is a document from Muhammad the prophet (governing the relations) between the believers and Muslims of Quraysh and Yathrib, and those who followed them and joined them and labored with them. (2) They are one community (umma) to the exclusion of all men. (3) The Quraysh emigrants according to their present custom shall pay the bloodwit within their number and shall redeem their prisoners with the kindness and justice common among believers. (4-8 ) The B. ?Auf according to their present custom shall pay the bloodwit they paid in heatheism; every section shall redeem its prisoners with the kindness and justice common among believers. The B. Sa ida, the B. ?l-Harith, and the B. Jusham, and the B. al-Najjar likewise. (9-11) The B. ?Amr b. ?Auf, the B. al-Nabit and the B. al-?Aus likewise. (12)(a) Believers shall not leave anyone destitute among them by not paying his redemption money or bloodwit in kindness. (12)(b) A believer shall not take as an ally the freedman of another Muslim against him. (13) The God-fearing believers shall be against the rebellious or him who seeks to spread injustice, or sin or animosity, or corruption between believers; the hand of every man shall be against him even if he be a son of one of them. (14) A believer shall not slay a believer for the sake of an unbeliever, nor shall he aid an unbeliever against a believer. (15) God?s protection is one, the least of them may give protection to a stranger on their behalf. Believers are friends one to the other to the exclusion of outsiders. (16) To the Jew who follows us belong help and equality. He shall not be wronged nor shall his enemies be aided. (17) The peace of the believers is indivisible. No separate peace shall be made when believers are fighting in the way of God. Conditions must be fair and equitable to all. (18 ) In every foray a rider must take another behind him. (19) The believers must avenge the blood of one another shed in the way of God. (20)(a) The God-fearing believers enjoy the best and most upright guidance. (20)(b) No polytheist shall take the property of person of Quraysh under his protection nor shall he intervene against a believer. (21) Whoever is convicted of killing a believer without good reason shall be subject to retaliation unless the next of kin is satisfied (with blood-money), and the believers shall be against him as one man, and they are bound to take action against him. (22) It shall not be lawful to a believer who holds by what is in this document and believes in God and the last day to help an evil-doer or to shelter him. The curse of God and His anger on the day of resurrection will be upon him if he does, and neither repentance nor ransom will be received from him. (23) Whenever you differ about a matter it must be referred to God and to Muhammad. (24) The Jews shall contribute to the cost of war so long as they are fighting alongside the believers. (25) The Jews of the B. ?Auf are one community with the believers (the Jews have their religion and the Muslims have theirs), their freedmen and their persons except those who behave unjustly and sinfully, for they hurt but themselves and their families. (26-35) The same applies to the Jews of the B. al-Najjar, B. al-Harith, B. Sai ida, B. Jusham, B. al-Aus, B. Tha'laba, and the Jafna, a clan of the Tha?laba and the B. al-Shutayba. Loyalty is a protection against treachery. The freedmen of Tha ?laba are as themselves. The close friends of the Jews are as themselves. (36) None of them shall go out to war save the permission of Muhammad, but he shall not be prevented from taking revenge for a wound. He who slays a man without warning slays himself and his household, unless it be one who has wronged him, for God will accept that. (37) The Jews must bear their expenses and the Muslims their expenses. Each must help the other against anyone who attacks the people of this document. They must seek mutual advice and consultation, and loyalty is a protection against treachery. A man is not liable for his ally?s misdeeds. The wronged must be helped. (38 ) The Jews must pay with the believers so long as war lasts. (39) Yathrib shall be a sanctuary for the people of this document. (40) A stranger under protection shall be as his host doing no harm and committing no crime. (41) A woman shall only be given protection with the consent of her family. (42) If any dispute or controversy likely to cause trouble should arise it must be referred to God and to Muhammad the apostle of God. God accepts what is nearest to piety and goodness in this document. (43) Quraysh and their helpers shall not be given protection. (44) The contracting parties are bound to help one another against any attack on Yathrib. (45)(a) If they are called to make peace and maintain it they must do so; and if they make a similar demand on the Muslims it must be carried out except in the case of a holy war. (45)(b) Every one shall have his portion from the side to which he belongs. (46) The Jews of al-Aus, their freedmen and themselves have the same standing with the people of this document in purely loyalty from the people of this document. Loyalty is a protection against treachery. He who acquires ought acquires it for himself. God approves of this document. (47) This deed will not protect the unjust and the sinner. The man who goes forth to fight and the man who stays at home in the city is safe unless he has been unjust and sinned. God is the protector of the good and God-fearing man and Muhammad is the apostle of God. peace
  • I wanna go to an "islamic sermon"

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    Is there such a thing?? I'd love to be preached and taught about islam and pray in a community... im not a muslim but love learnign abotu all religions as a i believe we are all one... Anyone can steer me the right direction? I live in NYC... Thanks!
  • Protecting the freedom of the grey areas...

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    Salam All We were discussing this last night that areas where God did not specify how to do things that He has told us to do, come in a grey area...things which are forbidden and things which are good come in black and white areas so you are left with how to do them as there is no one way to do it...whatever we think is best, we should do it that way, as long as we can have our reasons and are comfortable explaining them to God eventually. This grey area is left deliberately, so that people throughout time can decide for themselves what is best suited to them as long as they are not violating anything that God has told us in the book...it is imperative that we do not forbid what He hasn't told us to...So some ways might be better and some ways not so good but it isn't wrong to do it any way you like to. As long as you understand that God left it up to you. Take for example, our way of communicating with Him...you can do it any which way as long as you get that link going...whether you choose to do it in a particular way because of certain preferances, e.g sitting in a 'special' place because you like it...or not...We can argue that it's best not to make a habit of something, because one day you might have to break it, but it isn't wrong as long as God hasn't told you it is... and you can't make judgements pertaining to God, specifically in regards to a grey area, comes down to opinion and personal preferences... Another example is music...it's a grey area where there are specific boundaries about what is good and what is bad...lewdness is bad therefore most rap music (okay, some of it ) ) is bad because it has that in it...but classical music is fine...and then there's the grey area in regards to what falls in between, like say, Led Zeppelin...It has a lot of sexual innuendo, but it isn't explicit. Therefore I might say say its okay (in my opinion as it falls in the grey area and I get to decide) and someone else might think it not okay. Here's the thing, it's personal opinion and it's not violating anything that God said is forbidden/bad. So you have to make your own judgements (which cannot be enforced on people, e.g this is the only right way..do it or else) in the grey areas and this personal freedom is very important to protect or we'll be no worse than the extremists... Do you agree? Peace Nadia.
  • a short story

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    Salaamun aleikum, all. Insha'Allah, I hope you and yours are well. The following 'story' was forwarded to me by Mr Maqbool Farhat and I agree with the sentiment it expresses. Allah (swt) tells us in The Qur'an that the successful person (the one who reaps the harvest) is the one who develops his or her 'self' (through tazkiyyah = purifying growth), and that this is achieved by giving out from his or her wealth. (See Surahs 91 and 92) Fi amaan illah One day, a poor boy who was selling goods from door to door to pay his way through school, found he had only one thin dime left, and he was hungry. He decided he would ask for a meal at the next house. However, he lost his nerve when a lovely young woman opened the door Instead of a meal he asked for a drink of water. She thought he looked hungry so brought him a large glass of milk. He drank it slowly, and then asked, How much do I owe you?" You don't owe me anything," she replied. "Mother has taught us never to accept pay for a kindness." He said..... "Then I thank you from my heart." As Howard Kelly left that house, he not only felt stronger physically, but his faith in God and man was strong also. He had been ready to give up and quit. Many year's later that same young woman became critically ill. The local doctors were baffled. They finally sent her to the big city, where they called in specialists to study her rare disease. Dr. Howard Kelly was called in for the consultation. When he heard the name of the town she came from, a strange light filled his eyes. Immediately he rose and went down the hall of the hospital to her room. Dressed in his doctor's gown he went in to see her. He recognized her at once. He went back to the consultation room determined to do his best to save her life. From that day he gave special attention to her case. After a long struggle, the battle was won. Dr. Kelly requested the business office to pass the final bill to him for approval. He looked at it, then wrote something on the edge and the bill was sent to her room. She feared to open it, for she was sure it would take the rest of her life to pay for it all. Finally she looked, and something caught her attention on the side of the bill. She read these words "Paid in full with one glass of milk" (Signed) Dr. Howard Kelly. Tears of joy flooded her eyes as her happy heart prayed "Thank You, God, that Your love has spread broad through human hearts and hands." There's a saying that goes something like this Bread cast on the waters comes back to you. The good deed you do today may benefit you or someone you love at the least expected time. If you never see the deed again at least you will have made the world a better place - And, after all, isn't that what life is all about? Now you have two choices. You can send this page on and spread a positive message. Or ignore it and pretend it never touched your heart. The hardest thing to learn in life is which bridge to cross and which to burn. Maqbool Farhat (This heart touching story was sent by my son-in-law Zafar)
  • To All Those Who Will Soon Ask-Zed Is Banned Forever

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    peace, to all those who will soon want to know Zed=banned permanently, soon after though he tried to create several new names to get back on but they were deleted, you may now continue with the learning process, thank you for your time and patience in dealing with that gnat, I expect interest/debate/intelligence/etc. in this site to do nothing but expand from here on, God willing, and please if any Sunnis here have any debates about ahadith, please take it to the hadith discussions, I never want to see another one of those as long as I live take care and God bless
  • My meeting with Shirin Ebadi

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    Last Tuesday night I was invitide to a dinner with the Nobel Peace Prize Winner Iranian judge Shirin Ebadi. She was invited by the Middle Estern Studies Center of the University of Arizona. The lecture before the dinner was open to public and it attracted a big audience of about two thousand people. She was a corragous and intelligent voice against human rights violation in Iran and elsewere, including Israel. The same evening I was invited to join her in a relatively small dinner party. I delivered to her the message and asked her to join us. We had a short discussion on some verses of the Quran, but my impression was that she was not aware of our methodology and understanding. So, together with the Persian translation of the following letter, I gave her the Persian translation of Rashad Khalifa's remarkable book, Quran, Hadith, and Islam. She gave me her personal address for further communication. Dear Mrs. Ebadi In the light of recent events around the world and acts committed in the name Islam, there is an increasing need for the Muslims to stand up and voice their condemnation of the actions of a few and rejection of violence and abuse of human rights in Muslim countries. One such voice we hear loud and clear is yours Mrs. Ebadi. We are very much impressed with your recent speeches trying to bring a breeze of sensibility to an atmosphere where rhetoric and emotions seems to be the norm. We are a group of reform minded Muslims of different walks of life who are in process of forming a movement to create an awareness of man made misconceptions and innovations that have been introduced into our religion. We believe that Islam is a pluralistic religion that in the light of the teachings of the Quran is tolerant of other's creed and further, salvation is a private matter between God and the believer and any interference is condemned. After the death of the Prophet Muhammad, something interesting happened. In direct contradiction to the teachings of the Quran, male clerics dedicated the religion not to God alone, but to a "holy" corporation consisting of ? God + ? Muhammad + ? Muhammad's companions + ? The companions of Muhammad's companions + ? Early sect leaders + ? Late sect leaders + ? Early scholars of a particular sect + ? Late scholars of a particular sect; and so on. The product of this corporation was the Hadith (teachings attributed to Muhammad), the Sunnah (actions attributed to Muhammad), the Ijma (consensus of a select group of scholars), the Ijtihaad (religious decrees by early scholars) and numerous sects. This concoction of medieval Arab/Christian/Jewish cultures was introduced to the masses as God's infallible religion, as delivered by the last prophet. The only thing actually delivered by God to Muhammad, however, was the text of the Holy Quran, which is set out as the final and authoritative divine message to humankind. Unfortunately, ignorance, intolerance, misogynist teachings, superstitions, and outdated practices have accumulated over the centuries in interpreting and translating the holy book of Islam. It is time to re-introduce the actual message of the Quran. It is time to remove the accumulated layers of man-made dogmas and traditions that have attached themselves to the text. We plan to launch our movement through a websites called "Muslims For Reform" (muslimsforreform.org) or "Islamic Reform" (islamicreform.org) and are about to embark on publishing articles and books to promote the peaceful message of the Quran and rejection of violence under any pretext. We would like to ask you to join our movement in any capacity you may seem fit. The time has come for the Muslims to reflect and introspectively stop blaming others and take responsibility for our own actions. Among the members, supporters or advisors of Islamic Reform are Prof. Riffat Hassan; University of Lousville Prof. Aisha Musa; Harvard University Prof. Martha Shulte; University of Arizona Prof. Jon Mandaville; Portland State University, Oregon Prof. Omid Safi; Colgate University Prof. Asma Barlas; Ithaca College Prof. Kecia Ali; Harvard University Prof. Amina Wadud; Virginia Commonwealth University Fereydoun Taslimi; Entrepreneur, Noor Foundation Hossein Kowsari; Author Caner Taslaman; Author Faraydon Karim, PhD.; Mathematician Muhammad Asadi (writer); Writer Ali Bahzadnia, MD.; Human Rights Activist Layth free-minds.org Said Talari; moslem.org Raymond & Sophia Catton; Quranic Society of Canada Peace, Edip Yuksel
  • Why my access was denied?

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    I might be wrong, and I hope to be wrong I recently discovered that I could not access to this forum as Edip Yuksel (separate). I checked the membership list and I did not find my name there either. So, I re-registered as EdipYuksel (joined together). If it is due to a deliberate attempt to stop me from posting here, I would appreciate if I am informed about that. I would not insist to participate in a forum where I am not wanted. I have too many things to do. If my registration is deleted again, I will not return here. I hope, that word free is not abused by a tyrannical mind. I still have a positive impression of this site. Personally, I have great tolerance to different opinions on the Quran as long as people consider God's Ayaats in the scripture and nature as the only authority in our religion. However, I have witnessed many of those who claim to follow the Quran alone to be eager to start condemning others who share the same basic claim but not the same understanding of a particular word or issue. Those who are eager to engage in fight are perhaps too young, or emotionally unstable, or have hidden agendas. But, despite provocation, we muslims should learn ignore the ignorants and engage in respectful and productive exchange of ideas. Peace, E.Y.
  • Look-alike Holy Rivals

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    Look-alike Holy Rivals ?Edip Yuksel, J.D. www.yuksel.org It is no secret that the war in Iraq was started to promote the geo-political interest of American-Israeli alliance, and it is baptized by big corporations. While American weapon industry is devouring bloody profits from destruction of Iraq, American construction giants are piling up skyrocketing profits from its construction, and oil companies are making lubrative profits from shortage speculations and future concessions received from the so-called Free Iraq's puppet regimes. War once again is re-distributing the wealth in America, shifting it further from the poor and middle class to the filthy rich. All this is accomplished by using tax money, to which 60 percent of American corporations contributed ZERO dollars. In this war, the blood of poor people is shed on both sides. If by accident or design, a son-of-a-rich American enlists in military duty, and by another accident he ends up in battle field and gets hurt, the American Inc's media celebrates him news after news, program after program by telling us the story of that great American Hero. This makes poor Americans forget about their financial and health problems, their prisons, debts, joblessness, and cry for this great hero. Poor and Middle class citizens are thus will be led to believe that rich people share the honor of the snake-oil patriotism with them. The American military lost about 800 soldiers so far in Iraq (don't ask the tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed by our heroes; they do not count), and we got only one-and-a-half heroes Lynch and Tillman. Their stories attracted media's attention since one was a woman and the other was a "potential" millionaire. The story of Jessica Lynch saved by brave American soldiers was later found to be a fiction. To lure the daughters and wives of lower class Americans, in addition to their men, to die for the green aspirations of the big corporations, media has always staged hidden propaganda campaigns. As for Tillman, though his story was inspiring, yet it was not among the popular values of Americans, since out of more than 800 soldiers killed none even came close to Tillman. I am not talking about American values, such as, individual rights, freedom, innovation, optimism, and hard-work. I do not know if Tillman were a guard in a prison whether he would sexually torture Iraqi detainees and prisoners, but perhaps he shared a traditional American value violence and arrogance. As for politicians who are hired and manipulated by big corporations and organizations, they almost always shed some crocodile tears and get more votes from the exploited poor. American military mainly consists of Americans belonging to the bottom 20 percent of economic spectrum. Though they are financially FORCED to become hired guns, they are euphemistically called Volunteers. Besides the military service, the only two options for most of the enlisted "volunteers" are to join the homeless or the prison population. American soldiers have somehow "patriotically" picked the military, which seems to be a better option than being homeless or inmate. Ironically, when they become useless for military, usually they end up where they belong streets, prisons or mental hospitals. After this introduction, I would like to present you with some facts about the deeds and words of two fanatic groups Taliban, al-Qaida, or Army of the Mahdi VERSUS Crusaders, Evangelical Christians, or the Left-Behind-Armageddonites. The following statements are all gathered from media, and can be verified. Isn't their similarity is shocking? Mahdiyats We destroyed and will continue destroying your SKYSCRAPERS. Armageddonites We destroyed and will continue destroying your HOMES and CAVES. Mahdiyats We will ATTACK and TERRORIZE you. Armegeddonites We will first SHOCK and AWE you, then, we will F?K and COW you! Mahdiyats This is a JIHAD Armageddonites This is unofficially a CRUSADE, officially our LIBERATION from you. Mahdiyats ALLAH is with us; He is on our FLAG. Armageddonites GOD is with us; He is on our MONEY. Mahdiyats MUHAMMAD is the best. Armageddonites JESUS is the best, forget the rest. Shiites MUHAMMAD?S GRAND SON was killed because of our sins. In anniversaries, pretending to be sharing his agony, we SUFFER by BLEEDING ourselves. Armageddonites GOD?S FAVORITE SON was killed for our sins. In masses we enjoy drinking wine, pretending that it is his BLOOD, and then we make heathens SUFFER. Mahdiyats We offer 10 kilogram GOLD for the head of IMPERIALISTS. Armageddonites We offer 50 million DOLLARS for the head of the TERRORISTS. Mahdiyats We will ENSLAVE the occupiers, especially their female soldiers. Armageddonites We will capture and IMPRISION the insurgents. Mahdiyats We ENJOY abusing our HOSTAGES and SLAVES. Armageddonites. We officially REGRET but unofficially ENJOY abusing the DETAINEES and PRISONERS. Mahdiyats Our countries are turned to HELL by ZIONIST and CHRISTIAN occupiers and their puppets, and we will go to HEAVEN while sending them to HELL. Armageddonites Our country is a great HEAVEN and we will occupy MUSLIM COUNTRIES in the oily Middle East to maintain our HEAVEN. Mahdiyats When we are killed we will have 70 young VIRGINS in the HEAVEN. Armageddonites We do not care whether it is virgin or not. Perverts among us even do not care whether it is man or woman. While we are on EARTH we enjoy them in our BARS, HOTELS, PORNO SITES, and PRISONS. Mahdiyats We HATE our ENEMIES in our MOUSQUES and streets. Armageddonites We LOVE our ENEMIES in CHURCHES and we HATE them everywhere else.
  • "Uniforms" of ignorance.

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    Peace all, Some excellent points of discussion and illumination are inevitably lost amongst irrelevancies in heated threads lately so I wanted to move this piece out for everyone to consider. Brother Damon was replying to a first time lady poster who was wearing the "hijab" as a part of her identity I do wear the hijab, out of my own choise (sic), to express my identify (sic) Please keep in mind that there is no such thing as a physical so called "Muslim Identity". The only true a identity of a submitter are that of righteousness and Submission to GOD alone. If GOD did not command hijab in the Quran, then that means it is not an Islamic requirement, nad in fact, has nothing to do with Deenul-Islam. This is an excellent answer. Its highlighting of righteousness is so pertinent in fact that there is an extremely illuminating verse in the Quran specifically for people who believe that there is such a thing as an identifying muslim uniform whether that be an hijab or a beard and arab/paki' robes... O children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of GOD's signs, that they may take heed. O ye Children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover your shame, as well as to be an adornment to you. But the raiment of righteousness,- that is the best. Such are among the Signs of God, that they may receive admonition! Quran 726 RK and AYA translations Contrast that with the surmised (from ahadithic sources) "uniforms" of traditionalists. Where does it forbid silk for example? God affirms that clothes are for covering AND adornment/luxury no doubt as part of His endless mercy. Peace
  • Trash

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    Peace all, I cannot read all the messages every day and during the w-end I seldom consult the forum. In order to transfer messages which do not respect the rule of the forum in trash, I suggest to send me a private mail. I am not moderator 24H/24H wink Thanks Peace Marie
  • Hi, I'm new here

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    Hi all, I just singed to this fourm... so what do you guys talk about? shock Z big daddy
  • Free? Just for reseachers and seekers of the quranic islam

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    Salaams all, for those in the uk i have some coppies of The Arab Conspiracies 2nd Edition recently come out , 5 -10 coppies for freeminders. [email protected] for those very keen seekers of Gods Message to mankind. Salaam to all.
  • Strange Website...

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    Salam.. Is anyone aware of this website http//www.al-fatiha.net/ It seems very strange in light of all I've read in the Quran...any thoughts??
  • Great Books

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    peace, books and articles by the like of Parwez and others can be read here, some truly great reading material I would advise any student of Islam to check into http//www.tolueislam.com/Parwez/BA_Parwez.htm Sara, read the book "Bible Word of Man/Word of God?" and tell me whether you think the Bible is errorfree or not lol peace