Ya Sin. By the Qur'an, full of Wisdom,- Thou art indeed one of the messengers, On a Straight Way.
By the Star when it goes down,- Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled. Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) Desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him He was taught by one Mighty in Power,
In another thread earlier, Damon had tried to present arguments, like all other Hadith Rejecting Disbelievers on this forum, that the Holy Prophet (pbuh) was not perfect and comitted many sins and errors.
I will insha'Allah prove you all wrong in this post and show you that the Holy Prophet (pbuh) was free from error and sin as you falsely claim.
Peace all,
The verse in question is 1736
And pursue not that of which thou hast no knowledge; for every act of hearing, or of seeing or of (feeling in) the heart will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning).
The verse implies that do not go after something which you have no knoweldge about, and that is exactly what you people are doing. NO ONE has EVER had any knowledge of the "Qur'an-only" doctrine in the history of mankind before you corruptors were born.
We have CLEAR Knowledge that the Qur'an is with us. We have CLEAR knowledge that the Ahadith are with us. We have clear records of how the Qur'an was preserved. And we have clear record of how the Ahadith were preserved. It is only YOU people who have sprung up recently and claim that these records are false WITH NO EVIDENCE whatsoever. We have written testimonies and evidence of the chain os narrators who heard the narrations directly from the messenger of Allah (pbuh). You have NO PROOF whatsoever against this. Therefore you people follow conjecture and are in pursuit of things you have no knowlede about.
First of all, you have absolutely NO Quranic basis whatsoever to attach the "message" to the fabricated hadith. Please show me where in the Quran does Allah ever say that we have to listen to hadith other than ahsunul hadith (The Quran). You Can't!!! Because it's not there. Period!!!
Of course there isn't. Why would Allah (swt) want you to follow a fabricated Hadith?? Allah (swt) has commanded us to follow the PROPHET of Allah (pbuh). Therefore any knowledge you have of him, you follow it. And what more knowledge do we have of him than in the Hadith books?? And you can't even prove is by basic logic that this is false. Too bad son.
Second of all, contrary to what you say, there are plenty of errors in the fabricated hadith. Here are a couple of them just for you
I am going to love this nice little list since you will be ashamed as you will be proven wrong again and again lol
Killing "Apostates", which is a commandment in hadith, contradict and violate the Quran 2256, 490, 1099, 1829, 8821-22
On the other hand, apostates such as you should be KILLED
If a person has left Islam and them wages war against Islam, whether verbal or physcial this person should be killed
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah AND His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they) But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-"
Stoning adulterers, another hadith based injunction, contradicts and violtaes the Quran 242 and 425
How does it contradict those verses??? lol
In fact the Qur'an and Hadith go hand in hand in prescribing the punishment of lashing to adulterers. Where is the contradition? Where in the Holy Qur'an does it say that you can't stone the adulterers? And where in the Hadith does it say that they should not be lashed?? There is no contradition whatsoever. The punishment prescribed in the Qur'an is the COMPULSORY punishment, while in the Hadith the extra punishment of stoning in the case where the adulterers are married is the Sunnah punishment.
Forcing people to observe Salaat and killing them if they do not goes against 2256, 1829. These two verses are also violated when you kill people for drinking alcohol for a 4th time or more.
"Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. ... lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way ..."
Besides, how is a CONTRADITION when the Qur'an no where does it state that "we should not kill those who do not prayer" or "those who drink". Only then would it be a contraditiction.
No one is ever claiming the commandments in the Holy Qur'an are exactly the same, with nothing added and nothing taken away from them. The Qur'an stands in it's own, while the Sunnah stands on it's own. And Alla (swt) has commanded us to follow the Sunnah of the messenger of Allah (pbuh)
These are Allah's limits, and whoever obeys Allah AND His Apostle, He will cause him to enter gardens beneath which rivers flow, to abide in them; and this is the great achievement.
And whoever disobeys Allah AND His Apostle and goes beyond His limits, He will cause him to enter fire to abide in it, and he shall have an abasing chastisement" (Holy Qur'an 413-14)
The hadith that were fabricated saying that Muhammad was The Most Honorable Messenger goes against 2285
Why do you then follow the religion of someone who is not honoured in your site?? That is very illogical. Why don't you become a Christian since Jesus Christ (pbuh) was sinless, gave life to the dead etc.??
Verse 2285 is talking about the distinction in the sense of BELIEVING in them. Notice the word "believe" in the verse. We believe that they ALL came from Allah (swt) and all were rightly guided and came with ONE MESSAGE. It is in this regard that we make no distinction between them. On the other hand, Allah (swt) Himself states that prophet's have levels of honour
Those messengers We endowed with gifts, some above others To one of them Allah spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit. If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah Fulfilleth His plan.
The hadith claiming prophet Muhammad to be infallible contradict and violate 479, 9117, 1773-74, 3337, 4066, 661, 801-10, 937
479
Whatever good (O man!) happens to thee is from Allah; but whatever evil happens to thee is from thy (own) soul. And We have sent thee as an Apostle to (instruct) mankind and enough is Allah for a witness.
The verse is talking about PEOPLE in general and NOT refering to the messenger directly.
9117
Allah turned with favor to the prophet the Muhajirs and the Ansar who followed Him in a time of distress after that the hearts of a part of them had nearly swerved (from duty); but He turned to them (also) for He is unto them Most Kind Most Merciful.
I can't believe that a person who has very little mentality us given us verses such as these where the subject of the verse is someone else, and is is implying them on the prophet cos he hate nothing in his heart but HATE for the prophet. The verse is clearly talking about "some of them"... how did you take that to mean the prophet??
1773-74
And their purpose was to tempt thee away from that which We had revealed unto thee to substitute in Our name something quite different (in that case) behold! they would certainly have made thee (their) friend! And had We not given thee strength thou wouldst nearly have inclined to them a little.
The verse talks about what was in the hearts of the hypocrites. And it is talking about a hypothetical scenario that did not occure. Of course, to a fools mind such as your's, he think such a thing had occured (i.e. the hypcrites succeeded in substituting the name of Allah with something else)
3337
"And when you (Prophet) were ordering the person whom Allah had graced, and you, too, had graced him hold your wife with you and fear Allah; and you are hiding in your mind something which Allah is going to manifest, and you fear the people whereas Allah is more worthy of being feared. So when your adopted son (Zaid) had dissolved his marriage with that lady, We (i.e. Allah) had married you to that woman so that there should be no bar on believers in marrying the wives of their adopted sons when they finalize the breakage of their wedlock with them, and this was an order of Allah which was destined to be executed."
Zaid was an adopted son of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) long before he began his mission as a prophet. So you could say that this happened long before Islam came as a religion. As time went on, the religion of Islam was being formulated and put into practice by the Holy Prophet, as revealed to him by Allah (swt).
Zaid eventually got married to Zainab (ra). It was after this that any verses of the Holy Qur'an were revealed to the Holy Prophet (pbuh).
Then the revelation of prohibition of adoption were revealed to the Holy Prophet (pbuh). Therefore, from now on all adoptions have to come to an end, and people have to be known by their own real parents. No one can adopt another child and then claim that they were their own real children.
Coinsidently, the marriage between Zaid and Zainab was not working out, because Zaid was a free-slave while Zainab considered herself higher socially superior, so reluctantly Zaid divorces Zainab (pbuh). There are many issues here,
Zaid was a free-slave, while Zainab was socially superior than him
After the divorce no one would have married a widow who was divorced by a free-slave
Zaid was the adopted son of the prophet and therefore, people in those days believed that an adopted son was like a real son.
Then the verses were revealed that ordered the Holy Prophet (pbuh) to marry Zainab (ra). This was done so so clear all those false stigmas in the society as that time. Even thought the Holy prophet tried very hard to save the marriage of Zaid and Zainab by requesting them not go to with the divorce, it was destined that they'd be divorced so that another lesson from the marriage between the Holy Prophet and Zainab was to be learned by mankind. See below.
By marrying Zainab, the Holy Prophet (pbuh) gave the superiority to women who were divorcees, and being divorced by someone who was considered lowe in the society would result in that woman never to find a husband again. Therefore, the Holy Prophet broke this stigma and gave the superiority to women in this sense that we should not look at who the person was who divorced the woman.
Also, by marrying Zainab (ra) the the Holy Prophet (pbuh) demonstrated practically the nullification of all adoption. Had adoption been of any significance, it would not have been possible that the Prophet marries a former wife of his former adopted son. The fact that the marriage took place and was specifically ordered by Allah left no doubt whatsoever that adoption is totally forbidden in Islam. Read the aboveverse again that explains all this.
4066
Say "I have been forbidden to invoke those whom ye invoke besides Allah seeing that the Clear Signs have come to me from my Lord and I have been commanded to bow (in Islam) to the Lord of the Worlds."
How does this suggest that the prophet was in error like you claim to believe?
661
O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Where does it say that the Messenger comitted a mistake??????
As the context of the verse goes.. some of the prophets wives became jellous of each other that the prophet spends more time with the others and less with them. So he decided that for one whole month he would not any sexual relations with any one of them. The Holy Prophet had decided not have have intercourse with any of his wifes for a whole month so that those jeleous wives would feel better. Since the Holy Prophet has human feelings he had to right to feel this way, did he not?
This is when Allah (swt) revealed the above verse to give a message that you should not "abandon", "forbid" or "make unlawful" something that Allah (swt) has made lawful for us. In a sense it is a message going to mankind through this action of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) that we cannot abandon something or forbid it just to make someone happy.
So tell me, where did he go wrong???
801-10
(The Prophet) frowned and turned away, Because there came to him the blind man (interrupting). But what could tell thee but that perchance he might grow (in spiritual understanding)?- Or that he might receive admonition, and the teaching might profit him? As to one who regards Himself as self-sufficient, To him dost thou attend; Though it is no blame to thee if he grow not (in spiritual understanding). But as to him who came to thee striving earnestly, And with fear (in his heart), Of him wast thou unmindful. By no means (should it be so)! For it is indeed a Message of instruction Therefore let whoso will, keep it in remembrance.
Where did he "error"? And how? He simply turned his back to the blind man that came to him because the prophet (pbuh) was merciful and thought how could a blind man comit a sin and need guidance? He focussed on delivering the message to those who were rich and comitted much evil.
Nevertheless, this was in fact a message to us, the Muslims in time to come that we should not focus just on those big forces of evil, the rish and the opressors. We should also guide and give knowledge to the weak, the poor and the needy. They too will no doubt will benefit from spiritual knowledge even thought they may not be comitting sins.
There is no mistake or "error" on the part of the Holy Prophet (pbuh). He was simply given guidance on how to and to whome to give the message of Allah (swt) to.
937
And He found thee wandering and He gave thee guidance.
That is a misinterpreted verse. The translation might be correct but it is misinterpreted by the majority. The real meaning of this verse is given in the translation by Ahmad Raza Khan (r.a.)
And He found thee wandering and He gave thee guidance.
And He found you drown in His Love, therefore gave way unto Him.
"Daallan" is often applied to the one who is "obsessive in love" and in this case for Allah (swt). He used to visit the cave of Hira and for 3 days at a time he used to stay there worshipping Allah (swt). The food that his wife Khadijah used to leave for him used to be left untouched and he had become so deeply attached in love for Allah (swt) that his feet used to get swollen due to excessive standing while praying. In this way he has lost his awareness about the world, and he was given the good news of prophecy and success in the near future about his mission, as described in the same surah.
The verse can also apply to another situation when the Holy Prophet (pbuh) when he was young became lost. He was about 6 years old and walking with his nanny Halima. On the way to the prophet's mother house, he became lost and Halima couldn't find him. She called out for him but there was no sign of where he had gone. Then someone saw that two men in white came put the boy down in the ground and cut open his chest, took his heart out and washed it with zamzam water. The people came running to Halima and told her that her son had been murdered! She came running to where they had seen him but she saw him walking about normally.
So the verse could also apply to this case where he became lost to OTHERS and was not lost in himself in the sense of erring. He was purified and then "handed" back to Halima.
But I personally go with the first explanation as I have described above.
If you take the meaning to be that he was in error or was led astray, then it contradicts this verse
By the Star when it goes down,- Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled.
All the hadith that claim the prophet to have power of intercession violate and contradict 248,123,254, 670,94, 753, 103, 3944, 4386 and 7448
All these verses that speak about "no intercession" apply to hadith rejectors like you. On the other hand there are tonds of verses that apply to us the Sunnis where intercession will be given to us
Allah! There is no god but He,- the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).
Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority), regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah your Lord; Him therefore serve ye will ye not receive admonition?
On the day when We shall gather the righteous unto the Beneficent, a goodly company. And drive the guilty unto hell, a weary herd, They will have no power of intercession, save him who hath made a covenant with his Lord.
On that Day shall no intercession avail except for those for whom permission has been granted by (Allah) Most Gracious and whose word is acceptable to Him.
And We did not send before you any messenger but We revealed to him that there is no god but Me, therefore serve Me. And they say The Beneficent Allah has taken to Himself a son. Glory be to Him. Nay! they are honored servants They do not precede Him in speech and (only) according to His commandment do they act. He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not intercede except for him whom He approves and for fear of Him they tremble. And whoever of them should say Surely I am a god besides Him, such a one do We recompense with hell; thus do, We recompense the unjust.
"No intercession can avail in His Presence, except for those for whom He has granted permission. So far (is this the case) that, when terror is removed from their hearts (at the Day of Judgment, then) will they say, ?what is it that your Lord commanded?? they will say, ?That which is true and just; and He is the Most High Most Great?."
Those who sustain the Throne (of Allah) and those around it Sing Glory and Praise to their Lord; believe in Him; and implore Forgiveness for those who believe "Our Lord! Thy Reach is over all things, in Mercy and Knowledge. Forgive, then, those who turn in Repentance, and follow Thy Path; and preserve them from the Penalty of the Blazing Fire! And grant, our Lord! that they enter the Gardens of Eternity, which Thou hast promised to them, and to the righteous among their fathers, their wives, and their posterity! For Thou art (He), the Exalted in Might, Full of Wisdom. And preserve them from (all) ills; and any whom Thou dost preserve from ills that Day,- on them wilt Thou have bestowed Mercy indeed and that will be truly (for them) the highest Achievement."
And those unto whom they cry instead of Him possess no power of intercession, saving him who beareth witness unto the Truth knowingly.
How many-so-ever be the angels in the heavens, their intercession will avail nothing except after Allah has given leave for whom He pleases and that he is acceptable to Him.
The hadith which forbids men to wear gold and silk has two flaws. One, it violates Quran 548-49, 731-32
To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute; And this (He commands) Judge thou between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah's purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious.
Where does it say ANYTHING about silk and gold there?? Looks like you are blind.
and Two, it shows a double standard or "Favortism" on the prophets part because he allowed one of his "Companions" to wear gold. If it's haraam, it should be spread across the board, and not only be applicable to certain people, right???
Which companion did he allow to wear gold? Quote the hadith. Making ablind statement doesn't mean anything.
That was just a minute sampling of all the bullet holes that are sprinkled throughout the fabricated hadith and sunnah.
I am enjoying this since your ass is getting lashed left, right and center. Give me more, give me more!!! lol
please give me some verse which says that only Quran alone was sent to Prophets before Prophet Muhammad.
2101, 320, 3531, 568, 2135, 4125.
2101
And when there came to them a messenger from Allah, confirming what was with them, a party of the people of the Book threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs, as if (it had been something) they did not know!
Where does it say that "only the Qur'an alone was sent and that is the only thing you should follow"?? lol
320
So if they dispute with thee, say "I have submitted My whole self to Allah and so have those who follow me." And say to the People of the Book and to those who are unlearned "Do ye (also) submit yourselves?" If they do, they are in right guidance, but if they turn back, Thy duty is to convey the Message; and in Allah's sight are (all) His servants.
Again, where in the world does it say that only Qur'an-only was given to the previous prophets? In fact this verse tells us to follow the messenger on top of following Allah (swt).
3531
That which We have revealed to thee of the Book is the Truth,- confirming what was (revealed) before it for Allah is assuredly- with respect to His Servants - well acquainted and Fully Observant.
Where does it say that ONLY the book (i.e. the Qur'an) should be followed??
568
Say "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith.
Again, where does it say that Qur'an only should be folowed or that was the only thing sent to mankind??? roll
2135
O ye who believe! seek help with patient perseverance and prayer; for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.
Absolutely. However, I thought you were trying to give us verses that show that only the Qur'an is to be followed and that was the only thing sent to mankind!!! lol
4125
Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to Allah, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For Allah did take Abraham for a friend.
Again, absolutely. You have just proven yourself wrong by giving us verses that show that Allah (swt) commands us to follow the prophet's of God and not just the message that is given to them.
LOSER!!!!!! twisted
Tough Luck son. As you can see, you failed to give a SINGLE piece of evidence even from the book that you so much boast to follow. lol Did I not tell you before hand that I am going to love replying to your false thoeories and will prove you wrong in all aspects. And just look at my reply above and you will agree if you are a true seeker of Truth.
I am sure you must be feeling really embarrassed and ashamed that I proved you so wrong. Tough luck son. Not everyone in the world is on the right path. And you just happened to choose to follow the wrong path. There is still time, so repent and accept the Messenger of Allah, Muhmmad (pbuh) with all your heart and honour and follow him. Insha'allah.
Peace.
