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  • For the Love of my father "Satan" and Islam

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    Hello DAD They are saying that i am The most dishonest president in the history of our nation, but who will be saying this after we eliminate them the native american indians?, do you see God?, do you think there is one? Enjoy the ride and stop complaining, its for my DAD, SATAN! http//www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1173 http//www.informedchristians.com/articles/ART-By_Their_works.htm http//www.wsws.org/articles/2003/mar2003/bush-m20.shtml http//www.house.gov/appropriations_democrats/caughtonfilm.htm http//www.apfn.net/messageboard/10-05-03/discussion.cgi.25.html http//www.nationalist.org/docs/cartoons/2003/lies.html http//dossiers.genfoods.net/blies.html http//www.techcentralstation.com/103003A.html http//www.cuttingedge.org/articles/bitterfruits.cfm So when i am done ill be a MUSLIM!!!, i can not stay in hell for eternity because of you daddy can i ?
  • Where is Br Kyle Joell?????

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    Peace to you all! I wonder where Brother Kyle Joell is? I have tried to reach him so many times but he do not respond to mail. Do someone know how to reach him? Kyle and I have an yahoo group together named Quranists Online and he is the owner even if I should be it, now I cannot do anything in that group without his help and that disturb me alot. Many weird people have start to post there and I want to delete those people but that is Kyles job as an owner. I cannot even delete the group and start over without his help. Please can someone help me!? Sister Majidah
  • Why Expose Islam?

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    This is out of pure curiosity. Who is Zul-Qarnain? I think the traditional muslim say he is Alexander the great. What do you think? This thread was originally about Zul-Qarnain but it has evolved to discuss Islam.
  • Children of Israel

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    Can't we say that the Children of Israel are all those that have been influenced by Israel in someway? I believe so. I mean the Christians were influenced by Israel, the Muslims also with their hadeeth and many other traditions. Of course the Jews have been influenced by Israel. So can't we say that those passages that speak to the Children of Israel are dealing with all those who associate themselves with organizations or movements that derive in some way from ancient Israels influence on the world. Jews and Christians atleast won't deny it. Muslims on the other hand would probably deny this even though many hadeeth are a pure ramification of the Jewish and Christian influence during, before and after Muhammad's. Just about all of Morroco was Jewish before Islam came, Yemen, Jewish and Christian, The Levant, Christian and Jewish. And seeing that the Quran never promoted any movement by the name of Islam it is only possible that the Islam that exists in the middle east, and other places in Africa and Asia is an extension of the influence that Israel had on the world. All those converts were previously Jewish or Christian whatever the sect or school of thought. The Hadeeth scholars even attest to the Israileeyah that they follow in the Ahadeeth. So I propose that if you are a product of or are influenced by Israel in some way that when you read Oh children of Israel that you apply it to your group, be you Muslim, Christian or Jewish. No the Muslims didn't question Moses but neither did the Jews of this day. Where it doesn't personally apply the Quran is saying that your people have done this or do this and they know better because God has taken a common covenent with the Jews, Christians and Muslims, yet they only follow part of the decree, killing each other, exhiling each other and ransoming each other when it has been prohibited from them. Godbless, Anwar
  • good morning - december 3, 2003

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    peace i don't have much time before i leave for work, so i leave you all with this the Ignition and the Quickening. )
  • Reading the Qur'an with Love

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    Salaam all How many people here agree, That if you recite the Qur'an with the understanding that ALLAH is the one and only "LOVE" that exists to attain happiness, it all makes more sense to you? To believe in ALLAH, means one believes in Love, stands up for it, shares it, protects it and everything that one does will be a happy experience in this life and the hear-after, BLESSED! To disbelieve in ALLAH, like Iblis did just means; That no matter how much money, power, knowledge one has, they will never be happy without Love! Allah's curse is simple, Allah removes his love and grace from disbelievers, because they believe in themselves, there false ego's and that they do not have love then to share with another but misery from this disease in there hearts! Read the Qur'an and listen to Love's words with your heart not just your minds!!!
  • Islamophobia - Dr No: Evangelical Christian.

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    Hi, I've enjoyed reading this board for a while but recently I?ve noticed two posters Mrburns and dr.no. Both guys are obviously anti-Islamic racists. Why are they being tolerated? Burns spams moslems boards with articles that will make them look extreme. So that anyone visiting will think they are bigots. They do this to other Islamic boards. Both of them as a team. I can provide links if people are interested. And they love quoting faithfreedom.org which is a tainted site with a author of questionable origin. faithfreedom.org is run by a guy called ali sina (Fake name). The boards when they where up where full of nazi types. People who like him include the hinduvta facists nutcases who are committed to killing and cleansing India of ALL non-Hindus. Including Moslems, Christians and secular people. etc They like attacking secular academic types and beating up christian priests with baseball bats. Most likely he is one of them or related to some similar organisation. The site is banned on most internet filtering software organistations use since it promotes racial haterid and promotes violence. Theses guys are neo-fascists of one sort or another who hate all Moslems. Why do people pander to them? Kick and ban them. Don't tolerate this islamophobes on your boards. Their not here to discuss anything. They just want to spread their hate about Islam and moslems. The question is this board to allow it's self to be used by such people to spread this bile and hate for 1.6 billion moslems? Lets clean house and lets get back to some good discussions. http//www.faithfreedom.com/ali_sina_exposed.html quote For far too long the unstable minds behind faithfreedom.org and others have spread absolute lies about the religion of 1.4 billion people on this Earth - Islam. Let us stress we maintain high the gift of freedom of speech. Our disturbance is the fact that much of what is present on Mr Sina's and other websites are lies and gross misrepresentations of scripture, through a blending of non-contextual Quranic / Hadith verses and blatant story telling, on top of reinventing Islamic history! Freedom of speech is one thing, falsehood in the face of historical or religious fact is another. You will find that refuting the claims of Mr Sina is enough to expose these unscrupulous individuals, seeing that the diatribe contained within his websites can be found to exist (almost word for word) on others such as secularislam.org, who happen to think so-called "Islamic nations" much of which are dictatorships run by Western-puppets, are indeed "Islamic". Based upon this wrongly perceived fact they wish Islam to be more secular. Mr Sina presents himself to the reader as a "Muslim apostate". This approach gives him the ability to claim he knows Islam from the "inside". By exaggerating and glorifying an instance in history where a particular type of apostate was killed and by choosing to overlook the political side of the whole issue Mr Sina automatically covers himself up in many ways. Most importantly of all, this carefully vetted out approach allows Mr Sina to hide behind the safe walls of the Internet. Mr Sina has been asked to debate live over the Internet using voice chat programs but has declined for fear he may be found and hurt! We assure Mr Sina, no such thing will ever happen and we would quite happily assist him in locating a voice manipulation tool if need be. Whilst Mr Sina quite clearly sends out an invitation to anybody wishing to refute his claims, we have collectively come to know this challenge of Mr Sina's is nothing but a terrible joke. For a year or so now, Muslims, Christians and members of other religious denominations have written to Mr Sina refuting all his claims. Some of these people although do not buy the Islamic faith have lots of respect and admiration for it. Our verdict is Mr Sina is extremely selective about the comments, refutations and replies he posts on his website or even gives attention to. Another way in which he elevates himself is by constantly asking for "Islamic scholars" to refute his articles. This pretence acts to brainwash the reader and is Mr Sina's favourite technique. The Scholar Vs The Idiot is more accustomed to Celebrity Deathmatch. Even so, many people choose to buy the views of anti-Islamics seeing that they hold identical agendas, this is only natural. However, for the upright, truth seeking individuals (the shoe fits whomever chooses to wear it) we present the following example An Agnostic who wishes to learn about Christianity is not going to rely on a Hindu to increase his understanding of the Christian faith, rather he will find a genuine, verifiable Christian source. Likewise a man claiming to be a "free-thinker" who hides behind "freedom of speech", and whose true origin or purpose is in doubt, is no credible source at all.
  • To the Moderator - Everyone Please Read

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    When we all signed up to this forum we all agreed to abide by rules and codes of conduct and good behaviour towards others on the forum. Breaches of those rules have been brought to the attention of the Moderator. These are the Rules of this Forum "You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented or any other material that may violate any applicable laws. Doing so may lead to you being immediately and permanently banned (and your service provider being informed). The IP address of all posts is recorded to aid in enforcing these conditions. You agree that the webmaster, administrator and moderators of this forum have the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should they see fit" It is one thing to fail as the Moderator to enforce serious breaches of those rules but is also another matter to fail to take a complaint made to him by a fellow member seriously instead of just saying ignore them. What is the point of just ignoring them when they just move on to the next victim and the whole cycle starts over again?. What is the point in having rules if the Moderator fails to enforce those rules?. What was the purpose in each of us agreeing to those rules? A serious breach of the rules was brought to the attention of the Moderator and he didn?t take it serious enough. The breach brought to his attention was not a minor breach and it was not a one-off breach. These constant breaches of the rules on this forum should be dealt with by the Moderator when they are brought to his attention. He is failing in his job if he just says ignore them. These are not just one-off breaches of the rules and they are also not minor breaches of the rules. I would ask each person on this forum to look at what has been happening and also look at what will continue to happen over the next few days. If these personal attacks continue I would ask each person on this forum to send a private PM to the Moderator to ask him to bring this forum up to a higher level and not let it be dragged down by one person who has no regard for the rules, no regard for human decency, no regard others feelings, no regard for kindness towards others, no regard to human right and just has no regard for the word of god. This is not about different opinions, this is about common rights of others to express freely there opinions without being attacked with such hatred, with such a vengeance and with such persistence. No one wants to see others banded, but also none of us likes to see other peoples feelings hurt by endless personal attacks. I have suggested to the Moderator to apply a 3 warnings and you?re out Policy. But so far the Moderator has failed to even reply to my recommendation. The same as he failed to take the complaint brought to his attention seriously. Please do some soul searching over the next few days and if these hate attacks keep occurring at the daily rate they have been occurring it is time to ask the Moderator to act. The Moderator has many choices and I agree banning someone should be his last option. But a warning should be his first option and his most pressing option to take. It is a simple matter just press the PM Button on the Moderator profile and type these three words ?please do something?.
  • Can the music industry play a role to spread the message..?

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    peace be upon all, I was thinking if music industry can bring out the issue of our mistakes and where we have gone wrong through music. HipHop/ Rap is a good style to give the message in most direct way. I think It can really revolutionize the movement God alone concept.... May be Jibril can give some detail info.. Bring it on bro... Peace
  • The layout design for TNR

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    I posted it in album section but it seems nobody visits that forum. So I post it here again.... here is the link for "The Natural Republic" layout design. Its a community portal site. pls leave comment... http//www.free-minds.org/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=4 peace
  • A LETTER TO LAYTH, THE MODERATOR OF FREE-MINDS.ORG FORUM

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    ** q_l_l l ** Salaamunn 3alaykumm, Peace Be Upon You Brother Layth, Will you please stop Dhulqarnain from harassing me? Every time I post anything, he aggressively comes running after me. He has been repeatedly posting to me the same attacking posts over and over again with his characteristic offensive language and attitude, and I have been continuously ignoring him, following the advice of some members here. But that didn't seem to help. He insists on following me like a professional terrorist, trying to provoke me into endless, meaningless and rude arguments. Is this the Allah only and Quran only attitude? He acts so repulsively and exceptionally so with me as well as with my Christian Brother Rob. He has been so relentless in his endeavor to drag us into his horrendous mess, but we have refused time and again to answer back and lower ourselves to his level. Should we exchange attacks with him, we would certainly be ruining our faith and manners. Please check his posts and threads. Do you find what he is doing acceptable? Or fit for this forum? Can you do something about it? Or do you find his attitude appropriate? No other member here has treated me like him, and some have even showed their annoyance over his behavior, but simply put, they are not the moderators here and cannot force him to change his attitude. Do you wish me to leave this forum, Layth? Or do you think that if I wish to stay, then that is the kind of treatment I should expect to face here and be prepared to put up with!? Do you see me deserving of such behavior? You know that Dhulqarnain is always rejected from many forums because of his attitude. What he is doing is totally intolerable as it goes way beyond decent discussions. Do you wish that you, yourself, be treated the same way he is treating me and making you the subject of harassment and insults in his posts? Do you think that our time and posts should be wasted in exchanging insults or do you think that it should be spent in learning and seeking the Truth? Please, allow me to know what you think, Layth. Thank you Salaamunn He-Ya Peace It Is
  • A God alone Country ..!!

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    peace be upon all, what do you ppl think of the idea like buying a big piece of land like Singapore and establishing God alone system...? Do you ppl think its possible..? And if possible than what would it take to do that..? In my opinion what is possible now is a virtual country in cyber space having such system. All the members will be counted as citizens and their contribution to the virtual state will be monitored. May be we can have various types of activities and also funding system to maintain the virtual society. Well it can be vast as imagination goes..D well just an idea though.......it can also be named as "The Natural Republic"...hehe peace peace
  • I seek the best dictionary...

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    Peace all, I?d like to buy a very good dictionary (Arabic-Arabic), the best which can exist, could you indicate me some references? Thanks Marie
  • Muslim poets?

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    I just stumbled across rumi and hafiz, i was wondering if there are any fans of their work here and what you guys think of them. oh if you know any other poets worth checking out i would be interested. thanks
  • DHULQARNAIN'S MISSION...

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    Salaamun ALL tajama wrote Dhulqarnain is on a mission. His main goal is to inhibit any sincere effort towards finding the Truth. He is so relentless in doing this which only shows how much desperate he is. He want this place to turn into a chaos. He has been kicked out from many forums not just because of his attitude but also because of his falsehood. Yes, I am on a mission and that mission is Al-Qur-an ONLY. For far too long now, Muslims, have been deceived by the shaitans who, infect our ranks just as they infected the ranks of those (Jews and Christians) who came before us. Naturally, being Al-Qur-an Only, is extremely controversial, due to many's exaggerated love for the Prophet/the so-callled hadiths of Muhammad. It is true that I have been banned from some Muslim sites, because when they discovered that they could not defend their absolute anti-Quran positions, they became incensed and then things got personal, hence, I was gone. Tajmaha, accuses me of spreading falsehood being "irrationally illogical" (LOL I've got to contemplate that one...anyway), so, I challenge each and every one of you here to review my posts and point out the ones which illustrate my spreading of falsehood and/or being illogical. In conclusion, my mission, should be the mission of every Muslim and that is, not to support ANYTHING that cannot be proven via Al-Qur-an. Tajmaha, I'm still waiting for you to respond to this very rational and logical message from me. tajmaha, writes "Those uses of ma are basic knowledge in the Arabic language. They are taught to and known by every Arab student in intermediate grades ( for 11-14 year old children), in ordinary public schools in the Arab World. Now how would I or anybody else in this whole world overstrech'MA'!? It is not even a verb where it may have a long list of derivatives with meanings that can be so different from each other. LOL! Hmmm...this being the case then, how did your beloved Yusef Ali and the rest of the Arab and non-Arab Qur-an translators, miss, what according to you, is so basic and fundamental that, it is taught at grade school level? Doesn't say much for their scholarship, eh? Please, post the name of a Qur-an translator who, translates the ayats under discussion as you do. Rob, asserts that..."the answer would be NO the previous scriptures are not corrupt... god confirms this in the quran, that the previous scriptures are true scriptures". Why don't you correct this obvious lie? Not to do so would make you a hypocrite and kufr. What's it going to be your....piousness? You've would have noticed that, I have posted this to her several time now and she has refused to respond and support her assertions. Does this sound like someone who is rational and logical and about the truth? I don't.
  • MUBAARAK

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    q_l_l l * Salaamunn 3alaykumm, Peace Be Upon You In Al Arabiyyatea Al Foss-ha (the Arabic of the Quran) the word MUBAARAK is an adjective that means Blessed. The correct pronunciation would be MUBAARAK/MUBAARAKK ONE MUBAARAKKANN Qf (THE LETTER QAF) Wa Nazzaln Mina As-Sam'i M'an Mubrakan Fa'anbatn Bihi Janntin Wa abba Al-adi YUSUFALI And We send down from the sky rain charted with blessing, and We produce therewith gardens and Grain for harvests; PICKTHAL And We send down from the sky blessed water whereby We give growth unto gardens and the grain of crops, SHAKIR And We send down from the cloud water abounding in good, then We cause to grow thereby gardens and the grain that is reaped, TWO MUBAARAKKONN/UNN Al-'An`m (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Wa Hadh Kitbun 'Anzalnhu Mubrakun Muaddiqu Al-Ladh Bayna Yadayhi Wa Litundhira 'Umma Al-Qur? Wa Man awlah Wa Al-Ladhna Yu'uminna Bil-'khirati Yu'uminna Bihi Wa Hum `Al? altihim Yufi?na YUSUFALI And this is a Book which We have sent down, bringing blessings, and confirming (the revelations) which came before it that thou mayest warn the mother of cities and all around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe in this (Book), and they are constant in guarding their prayers. PICKTHAL And this is a blessed Scripture which We have revealed, confirming that which (was revealed) before it, that thou mayst warn the Mother of Villages and those around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe herein, and they are careful of their worship. SHAKIR And this is a Book We have revealed, blessed, verifying that which is before it, and that you may warn the metropolis and those around her; and those who believe in the hereafter believe in it, and they attend to their prayers constantly. THREE MUBAARAKKINN I couldn't find in the Quran any Ayah that has the word MUBAARAKKINN The colored endings are the ending sounds. The ending sounds are changeable according to the place of the word in a sentence, but the form of the word remains the same in two cases case TWO and case THREE, while in case ONE we attach/join the letter = ANN to the letter KA , so it will look like this and will give the sound KAN However, in certain letters, we just write the letter = ANN after the word without joining it with it. When writing in Arabic we use tiny signs above or under the last letter of the word to determine the correct ending sound which will change for grammatical reasons. Notice the tiny sign above the letter , and the tiny sign above the letter which will give the sound KONN and the tiny sign under the letter which will give the sound KINN The a in the ending sound an/ann is the same as the sound an in the word Vatican. The o , u in the ending sound onn/unn is the same as the sound o in the preposition on, or u in the word citrus. The i in the ending sound in/inn is the same sound as i in the preposition in. In the word the letter KA is the one that would be marked to determine the ending sound. Those 'tiny' signs are also used above or under the rest of the letters (not the last letter) in any given word. Changing their places will change the meaning of the word. The word will look the same but with different order of the 'tiny' signs. The letter KA is formally (in the Alphabet) called KAF The 'tiny' signs are much more than the ones I mentioned above. Translations from http//www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/ Transliterations from http//4bm.com/quraanLanguages/English/B&WPrintT_T/QuraanIndexTT.htm Wa Al Hamdu Le Ellahe Rabbe Al Alameen And Al Praise Be To Allah, The Cherisher and Sustainer Of The Worlds Salaamunn He-Ya Peace It Is
  • US crimes against Humanity, and Muslims (not arabs)

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    http//www.uscrusade.com/murder/usa.shtml A trip down memory lane Some of America's Past Crimes A History of Bio-Chemical Weapons By Zoltan Grossman General overview of the CIA www.wakeupmag.co.uk The World's Only Superpower by William Blum Washington's Own Love Affair with Terror by Robin Miller A Dossier on Civilian Victims of the United States' Aerial Bombing of Afghanistan By Prof. Marc W. Herold (109KB) Venezuela, & Ch?vez The Ongoing Lessons Trinicenter.com The Bay of Pigs Invasion by Jon Elliston The Myth of Western Aid and the Silent War Against the Third World www.wakeupmag.co.uk The CIA's bloody fingerprints Monday, April 15, 2002 The CIA And The Venezuela Coup Monday, April 15, 2002 Grenada, Operation Urgent Fury Monday, January 1, 2001 US Crimes in Grenada Monday, January 1, 2001 US Crimes in Guatemala Monday, January 1, 2001 US Crimes in Nicaragua (1910-1990) Monday, January 1, 2001 US Crimes in Haiti Monday, January 1, 2001 US Crimes in Colombia/Panama Monday, January 1, 2001 US Crimes in the Philippines Monday, January 1, 2001 US Crimes in The Dominican Republic Friday, January 1, 1999 In the 19th century, Britain invaded China to force the Chinese government to accept imported opium which was poisoning the Chinese population? (After Britain won a glorious victory in the Opium Wars, thus forcing China to enrich British merchants at the expense of the Chinese population's health, the US and France demanded and got from China the same right to import the poisonous stuff. Vast fortunes were built on this gangster trade.) You can read about the Opium Wars at http//www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/heroin/opiwar1.htm On the genocide of 10 million in Congo, see 'Eyewitness To Hell,' When Slovenia and Croatia threatened to secede from Yugoslavia in 1991, the British Foreign Office publicly called for maintaining the integrity of Yugoslav borders. But the covert policy was quite different, as demonstrated by one piece of that policy which has been brought out in the open. Reports the London Guardian "Eight days before Slovenia became the first area to break from the unified Yugoslavia in 1991, a British firm delivered communications equipment to the Slovenian forces to help them fight the Serb-led Yugoslav army. The revelation that this deal was approved by the Conservative Government will embarrass former Foreign Secretary Douglas Hurd." (Guardian, May 28, 2000, British deal fuelled Balkan war by Blaz Zgaga and Antony Barnett) http//216.239.33.100/search?q=cache This military equipment sale, which you will note took place with government approval, told the Slovenians pay no attention to our protests. Go ahead and secede. 'Why Does Washington Want Afghanistan?' by Jared Israel, Rick Rozoff and Nico Varkevisser at http//emperors-clothes.com/analysis/afghan.htm Slobodan Milosevic's 1989 speech at Kosovo Fields was very important at the time. As you will see when you read it at http//emperors-clothes.com/milo/milosaid.html Milosevic celebrates the Serbs' refusal to accept mistreatment and, at the same time, he calls on all ethnic groups to fight for multiethnic unity. In fact he says multiethnic unity is the strength of Serbia and a requirement for Yugoslavia's survival. That is why I call it a 'Martin Luther King-type speech.' But don't take my word. Read the speech. And read Professor Francisco Gil-White's article which proves, in case after case, that the mainstream media has deliberately lied about the speech, just the way British Foreign Secretary Robin Cooke lied about it. To read Professor Gil-White's article, 'Media Misrepresentation of Milosevic's Words A Review of the Evidence,' go to http//emperors-clothes.com/milo/gw.htm Get the full article from which we extracted these links http//emperors-clothes.com/analysis/cooper.htm
  • America's Shame

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    How ashamed I am of Bush and this Administration, including Congress and the= =20 American people. The destruction of the Constitution, the abandonment of th= e=20 concept of fair and open trials, the violations of human rights and=20 international laws, the adoption of cruel techniques and the threats and=20 intimidation use by our government to secure "convictions" of those soldiers= =20 of the Taliban. =20 Shame on America. Shame on Americans. =20 It's no wonder the world now despises us. We've gone back on everything we=20 professed to believe in, we have performed those acts we derided other for.=20= =20 And Americans stand behind these crimes. =20 We've betrayed our founders, our Lord and ourselves. Robert T. Tribunals Nearly Ready for Afghanistan Prisoners By NEIL A. LEWIS WASHINGTON, April 7 =E2=80=94 After nearly 18 months of planning, the Pentag= on is at=20 last ready to put in place its system of military tribunals to try people=20 captured in the war in Afghanistan, officials and lawyers outside the=20 government say. The officials and lawyers said the military would, in the next few weeks,=20 complete work on the structure of the first tribunal, the final list of=20 crimes that could be prosecuted and the list of military officers who would=20 serve on the panels, as well as those who would prosecute the crimes and=20 those available as defense lawyers.=20 Soon after that, they said, they will announce the first small group of=20 detainees to face charges of war crimes. The proceedings will take place at=20 the United States naval base at Guant=C3=A1namo Bay, Cuba, where some 640=20 detainees are being held. Despite the fact that there will be a system in place, many officials said=20 that there might not be an actual proceeding anytime soon. The Pentagon hope= s=20 that the first handful of prisoners charged will be persuaded to accept plea= =20 bargains in which they could plead guilty to lesser charges in exchange for=20 providing new information about Al Qaeda. In essence, the first tribunal is supposed to serve as a continuation of the= =20 plan to get as much information as possible out of the detainees, with the=20 actual prosecution of any crimes as a secondary goal.=20 "The priority has always been to gather intelligence from these people," one= =20 official said. Another official cautioned, however, that there was no guarantee that the=20 defendants would go along with this plan. In that event, the military would=20 be obliged to go ahead with a proceeding. Under the military order signed by President Bush on Nov. 13, 2001, the=20 tribunals may be used only for noncitizens who were members of Al Qaeda or=20 who have "engaged in, aided or abetted, or conspired to commit, acts of=20 international terrorism, or acts in preparation therefor, that have caused,=20 threaten to cause, or have as their aim to cause injury to or adverse effect= s=20 on the United States," or who have harbored those people. That would seem to prevent the use of the tribunals for people captured=20 during the war in Iraq unless Mr. Bush amends the order.=20 Officials have already said that they are planning two other kinds of=20 tribunals for captured Iraqis. One would be military tribunals for those=20 charged with crimes in connection with the current fighting. There would be=20 separate civilian tribunals conducted by Iraqi lawyers and judges with the=20 help of the United States to prosecute crimes against humanity committed ove= r=20 the past 20 years, including charges of genocide against the Kurds. W. Hays Park, special assistant to the Army for war crimes, told reporters=20 that Iraq was violating several main tenets of the Geneva Conventions. Mr.=20 Park said Iraq had violated the conventions by broadcasting gruesome picture= s=20 of dead coalition troops and showing prisoners of war forced to answer=20 interrogations, and had committed treachery by falsely using white flags of=20 surrender to attack forces and having soldiers disguise themselves in=20 civilian clothing. Pierre-Richard Prosper, ambassador for war crimes issues, said the use of ci vilian garb by Iraqi fighters had "caused numerous civilian casualties and=20 has put thousands of civilians in harm's way." Mr. Prosper said the=20 convention's prohibition against using civilian garb was intended to maintai= n=20 a distinction between civilians and soldiers. He also said that Kuwait might establish tribunals for crimes committed in=20 the 1991 gulf war that could not previously be prosecuted because the war=20 ended before Iraqi officials could be captured. The prisoners at Guant=C3=A1namo are in a kind of legal limbo because the=20 administration has refused to designate them as prisoners of war, a status=20 that would entitle them to immunity from prosecution for many acts committed= =20 during a lawful war, among other things. The government contends that the prisoners are "unlawful combatants," and=20 that position has drawn criticism from human rights groups as well as a grou= p=20 of British judges who, in an opinion last November, denounced the treatment=20 of the detainees. Officials said the prisoners loosely fell into three categories people who=20 were probably needlessly detained, a few Qaeda members and a group of people= =20 about whom they know little. The military has compiled a list of 24 crimes for which the detainees may be= =20 prosecuted, including murder, the taking of hostages, degrading treatment of= =20 prisoners, use of human shields and false use of a white flag to wage war. Mere membership in Al Qaeda is not considered a crime, but the list includes= =20 a broad-gauge charge of "related offenses," like conspiracy and aiding or=20 abetting, attempting, soliciting or ordering any of the 24 crimes mentioned. Human rights organizations have criticized the Pentagon's plans for, among=20 other things, allowing no appeal to a civilian court. The critics say=20 international law requires that captured soldiers have the same right of=20 appeal as soldiers in the host country. In the United States, convictions in= =20 military courts are ultimately appealable in the civilian courts. The defendants will be represented by military lawyers, and the regulations=20 also allow for some private lawyers to be retained. But the nonmilitary=20 lawyers would have to be cleared to examine classified and even some=20 nonclassified documents. They would probably be hired by detainees' families= . --part1_132.1d620ccd.2bc45d8b_boundary Content-Type text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding quoted-printable Content-Language en <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">How ashamed I am of Bush and this Administration, incl= uding Congress and the American people.  The destruction of the Constit= ution, the abandonment of the concept of fair and open trials, the violation= s of human rights and international laws, the adoption of cruel techniques a= nd the threats and intimidation use by our government to secure "convictions= " of those soldiers of the Taliban.  <BR> <BR> Shame on America. Shame on Americans.  <BR> <BR> It's no wonder the world now despises us.  We've gone back on everythin= g we professed to believe in, we have performed those acts we derided other=20= for.  And Americans stand behind these crimes.  <BR> <BR> We've betrayed our founders, our Lord and ourselves.<BR> <BR> Robert T.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR #ffffff"= SIZE=3D5 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR #ffffff" SIZE=3D4= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><B>Tribunals Nearly Ready fo= r Afghanistan Prisoners</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-C= OLOR #ffffff" SIZE=3D5 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR #ffffff" SIZE=3D2= FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">By NEIL A. LEWIS</FONT><FONT= COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"S= ANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B><BR> <BR> W</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR #ffffff" SIZE= =3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">ASHINGTON, April 7 =E2= =80=94 After nearly 18 months of planning, the Pentagon is at last ready to=20= put in place its system of military tribunals to try people captured in the=20= war in Afghanistan, officials and lawyers outside the government say.<BR> <BR> The officials and lawyers said the military would, in the next few weeks, co= mplete work on the structure of the first tribunal, the final list of crimes= that could be prosecuted and the list of military officers who would serve=20= on the panels, as well as those who would prosecute the crimes and those ava= ilable as defense lawyers. <BR> <BR> Soon after that, they said, they will announce the first small group of deta= inees to face charges of war crimes. The proceedings will take place at the=20= United States naval base at Guant=C3=A1namo Bay, Cuba, where some 640 detain= ees are being held.<BR> <BR> Despite the fact that there will be a system in place, many officials said t= hat there might not be an actual proceeding anytime soon. The Pentagon hopes= that the first handful of prisoners charged will be persuaded to accept ple= a bargains in which they could plead guilty to lesser charges in exchange fo= r providing new information about Al Qaeda.<BR> <BR> In essence, the first tribunal is supposed to serve as a continuation of the= plan to get as much information as possible out of the detainees, with the=20= actual prosecution of any crimes as a secondary goal. <BR> <BR> "The priority has always been to gather intelligence from these people," one= official said.<BR> <BR> Another official cautioned, however, that there was no guarantee that the de= fendants would go along with this plan. In that event, the military would be= obliged to go ahead with a proceeding.<BR> <BR> Under the military order signed by President Bush on Nov. 13, 2001, the trib= unals may be used only for noncitizens who were members of Al Qaeda or who h= ave "engaged in, aided or abetted, or conspired to commit, acts of internati= onal terrorism, or acts in preparation therefor, that have caused, threaten=20= to cause, or have as their aim to cause injury to or adverse effects on the=20= United States," or who have harbored those people.<BR> <BR> That would seem to prevent the use of the tribunals for people captured duri= ng the war in Iraq unless Mr. Bush amends the order. <BR> <BR> Officials have already said that they are planning two other kinds of tribun= als for captured Iraqis. One would be military tribunals for those charged w= ith crimes in connection with the current fighting. There would be separate=20= civilian tribunals conducted by Iraqi lawyers and judges with the help of th= e United States to prosecute crimes against humanity committed over the past= 20 years, including charges of genocide against the Kurds.<BR> <BR> W. Hays Park, special assistant to the Army for war crimes, told reporters t= hat Iraq was violating several main tenets of the Geneva Conventions. Mr. Pa= rk said Iraq had violated the conventions by broadcasting gruesome pictures=20= of dead coalition troops and showing prisoners of war forced to answer inter= rogations, and had committed treachery by falsely using white flags of surre= nder to attack forces and having soldiers disguise themselves in civilian cl= othing.<BR> <BR> Pierre-Richard Prosper, ambassador for war crimes issues, said the use of ci= vilian garb by Iraqi fighters had "caused numerous civilian casualties and h= as put thousands of civilians in harm's way." Mr. Prosper said the conventio= n's prohibition against using civilian garb was intended to maintain a disti= nction between civilians and soldiers.<BR> <BR> He also said that Kuwait might establish tribunals for crimes committed in t= he 1991 gulf war that could not previously be prosecuted because the war end= ed before Iraqi officials could be captured.<BR> <BR> The prisoners at Guant=C3=A1namo are in a kind of legal limbo because the ad= ministration has refused to designate them as prisoners of war, a status tha= t would entitle them to immunity from prosecution for many acts committed du= ring a lawful war, among other things.<BR> <BR> The government contends that the prisoners are "unlawful combatants," and th= at position has drawn criticism from human rights groups as well as a group=20= of British judges who, in an opinion last November, denounced the treatment=20= of the detainees.<BR> <BR> Officials said the prisoners loosely fell into three categories people who=20= were probably needlessly detained, a few Qaeda members and a group of people= about whom they know little.<BR> <BR> The military has compiled a list of 24 crimes for which the detainees may be= prosecuted, including murder, the taking of hostages, degrading treatment o= f prisoners, use of human shields and false use of a white flag to wage war.= <BR> <BR> Mere membership in Al Qaeda is not considered a crime, but the list includes= a broad-gauge charge of "related offenses," like conspiracy and aiding or a= betting, attempting, soliciting or ordering any of the 24 crimes mentioned.<= BR> <BR> Human rights organizations have criticized the Pentagon's plans for, among o= ther things, allowing no appeal to a civilian court. The critics say interna= tional law requires that captured soldiers have the same right of appeal as=20= soldiers in the host country. In the United States, convictions in military=20= courts are ultimately appealable in the civilian courts.<BR> <BR> The defendants will be represented by military lawyers, and the regulations=20= also allow for some private lawyers to be retained. But the nonmilitary lawy= ers would have to be cleared to examine classified and even some nonclassifi= ed documents. They would probably be hired by detainees' families.</FONT><FO= NT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY= =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_132.1d620ccd.2bc45d8b_boundary--
  • Israel: America's Shame and Humanity's Stain

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    "I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy not approved by the Jews. Marshall and Forrestral learned that.... terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country" Sec. of State John Foster Dulles in Feb. 1957 quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff ~~~~~~* "I've never seen a president --I don't care who he is-- stand up to them . It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want....If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens don't have any idea what goes on." Admiral Thomas Moorer of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (See Washington Report 12/1999, p.124 quoting from Andrew Hurley's book, "One Nation Under Israel") ~~~~~~* "We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world - no longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men." Woodrow Wilson ~~~~~~* PITY the wonderful, kind, generous, good hearted, peace loving American people as being the only people in the entire world totally unaware of how Israel, a nation whose founding and funding depends on the American taxpayer, so dominates, controls, intimidates, humiliates, and even bites and puts at risk the very lives and hands of the American taxpayers who feed it. While the American people are fiercely proud, independent, and will not submit to any nation or any person who dares stomp on the world's sole superpower, they do submit willingly and unwillingly to the dictates of a foreign nation, Israel, whose economy and political support is the prime priority of Washington D.C., even at the expense of the needs and lives of the American people themselves. Inquiring Minds Around the World Want to Know Why are the American people so loved and respected around the world for so long (prior to Israel's founding in 194 for their freedoms, educational and technological superiority, their friendliness, generosity, and respect for other people's beliefs and needs, are so naive to the destructive influence of Israel's "Jewish Power" upon their domestic and foreign policies? Why are they so blind and uninformed despite having the world's largest and most advanced educational system, the world's largest media outlets, the ability to travel around the world freely, the world's largest interdependent economy that sells to every nation on earth, except to Israel where it loses on trade; a nation with more military bases around the world than any other, a nation of immigrants from around the world, a nation in possession of the wondrous law unavailable to most of the world--the "Freedom of Information Act"--whereby a citizen can seek governmental answers on policies, but doesn't when it comes to foreign policy? WHY, WHY, WHY? Why has the world been engulfed in continuous wars and conflicts in the Middle East ever since Israel was founded in 1948? Why did Islam suddenly become America's enemy immediately after the collapse of Communism in 1991? Why 9/11? Why is Bush so determined against ALL evidence, logic, and against the wishes of the entire world to annihilate Iraq, a nation his father already destroyed, a nation impoverished with sanctions, a nation that's been bombed continuously for 11 years? There is a reason why our government and our media are not asking the most important question regarding 9/11---the question of WHY only America was attacked. There is a reason why President Bush has refused for a long time to appoint an Independent Commission to examine 9/11. There is a reason why Congressional inquiry only focused on the failures of the FBI/CIA/NSC and not the WHY issue. There is a reason why no media outlet is independently investigating this issue. There is a reason why our government quickly and quietly kicked out 120 Israeli "spies" out of the country soon after 9/11, some were caught on videotape filming the crash into the WTC towers and dancing on rooftops (see FOXNEWS 3 reports by Cameron , later deleted from the website). Much more incriminating information on Israel's prior knowledge of the attack has been reported abroad but not here. Why did Israel not inform the United States? There is a reason that Bush appointed Henry Kissinger, a powerful Pro-Israeli Jew to head the Independent Commission but who later resigned rather than reveal his "conflict of interest" nations. The reason is Israel and the answer as to WHY there is new found HATE between the U.S. and the Muslim world is simple Why do THEY hate US? ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL ? Why do WE Hate Them? ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL Despite the fact that most Americans, including our Government understand this truth, America is too fearful to admit that Israel is the barrier between the West and Islam, between perpetual war and peace, and between the interests of the American people and the Pro-Israel politics of our Government too greedy for Jewish money and votes and too cowardly to face the Pro-Israeli Media backlash should they ever so slightly oppose the "Israel First" policy. There is ZERO TOLERANCE in America?s Media for any criticism of Israel. The Political Unemployment line is filled with politicians who fought for America's cause and independence from Israel and who sought peace in the Holy Land. Among them are former Senators William Fulbright, Charles Percy, Reps. Paul Findley and Cynthia McKinney. The American Government, Media, Wall Street, Hollywood, and "experts" on television are ensuring through daily bombardment of intimidating sound bytes that the American TAXPAYER, who is the ultimate VICTIM in this charade of 55 years of Israel's democracy and ?special relationship? with the United States, will never know the truth about Israel's grip on this nation or if he/she does, that they will never have the courage to ever speak out publicly. THE ANSWER MY FRIEND AS TO WHY MUSLIMS ARE DYING EVERYDAY AND WHY AMERICANS HAVE BEEN KILLED BY ISRAEL (USS Liberty in 1967, Marines in Beirut) and will continue to die around the world for Israel?s interests, not America?s, especially in Israel's push for America to attack Iraq, and not North Korea, IS BLOWING IN THE WINDS OF "JEWISH POWER". (See the book "Jewish Power" by the Jewish American journalist and Editor of the Jewish paper, "FORWARD") Powerful Jewish Influence on the western world, especially America, stems from the following foundations The HOLOCAUST The murder of millions of innocent Jews in Europe, not America, was among the many genocidal holocausts in history. Jews were murdered, their properties confiscated, and were scapegoated for their faith and ethnicity. Tragically and ironically, Jews in Israel are propagating the same crimes against innocent Palestinians while once again the world is SILENT, but this time America is providing the money, weapons, and protective Vetoes in the United Nation to directly support Israel's Jews in their "Palestinian Holocaust". The Intimidating Power of the Label ?ANTI-SEMITISM? Anyone who dares criticize Israel's policies or atrocities against innocent Palestinians or Muslims is publicly tarred and feathered by the Pro-Israel media, and branded for life with the new and improved Scarlet Letter "A" for Anti-Semitism; a career ending silencing weapon that Presidents, Congressmen, Kings, Prime Ministers, Popes, world citizens, and most importantly American citizens fear most. It's time to understand the real meaning of "SEMITE" and for world Jewry to get over their psychological and politically motivated paranoia that the entire world, especially the United Nations, genetically and inherently HATES them because they are God's "Chosen People". The very idea that God, the loving, merciful, omnipotent Creator of all the universe would have an "exclusive" love and relationship to a small group of people, especially people whose relationship with God is one of continuous rebellion, is beyond divine logic. What does such logic leave for Christians who believe in God's only son as their personal Savior? Today, the 13 million Jews around the world are the most prosperous and powerful ethnic group in the world. The existence, the military power, wealth, and brutal behavior of Israel toward its neighbors despite world condemnation is a testament to that prosperity. Definition of Semitic Semite derives from the name of Noah's son, Shem, the father of the Semitic-speaking peoples. Semitic refers to LANGUAGES, not a religion or ethnicity. It refers to the Semitic languages of Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic, Assyrian, Babylonian, Ethiopian and others. It has NOTHING to do with Jews or Judaism. Given that the majority of Jews are neither related to the original Israelites nor speak Hebrew, most therefore are not Semites, while all Arabs are by definition Semites given their Arabic language. SO let's stop this hypocritical manipulation of Anti-Semitism to silence criticism of Israel. The American MEDIA and HOLLYWOOD ALL of the Hollywood Studios were founded by European Jews while most of America's MEDIA Conglomerates are either owned, controlled, directed, or have a majority of Jewish editors, journalists, or columnists, compared to any other ethnic group. There are Nine Major Media Conglomerates that control most of the world media and almost all are owned or run by Jews. People seem to get a neurological seizure when such factual statements are made but that's the truth. Even Michael Medved, the known Jewish American film critic asks the question, "So What if Hollywood is Run by Jews?", so why should anyone else recoil from such statements. Ironically, the most courageous critics of Israel around the world are Jews, but these Jews are pariahs, called "Self Hating Jews" by other Jews, and are denied access to the American media. Even more ironic is that Israeli Jews and the Israeli Media are the harshest critics of Israel and defenders of Palestinian human rights but no such brave Jew exists in America's media. To Jewish Americans, Israel is their "Wailing Wall" where their money, votes, and protests serve to compensate them for their guilt of not immigrating to Israel and leaving their American wealth. Most Jews around the world are non-religious, in fact almost all the Zionist Jews who founded Israel were non-religious, and many were atheists, Buddhists, or Communists. In fact the majority of the Russian Communists who established the Soviet Union were Jews. NO American who wishes to speak against Israel is allowed to write in the Op-Ed pages of the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal or appear as a talking head on television. If you pay close attention to the "experts" on Israel or Islam on Television you'll find that they're almost always American Jews, Israeli's, or Pro-Israel Christian Zionists like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham, Bill O'Reilly, Cal Thomas, George Will, Charles Krauthammer and so on. 4. CONGRESS Out of 100 Senators, 11 are Jewish (that's 11% despite Jews are only 1.7% of U.S. population). NONE of the Senators are African Americans, Hispanics, Native Americans, or Muslim Americans. Congress has been correctly called by Former Secretary of State James Baker as the "Little Knesset (Israel's Parliament)" and by Pat Buchanan as "Israeli Occupied Territory". No American institution is a better pandering doormat to Israel's concerns and needs than Congress. (See quotes on Israel's power on Congress by American statesmen in www.mideastfacts.com) The ONLY American Group to have a SPECIAL LIASON OFFICE in the White House is American Jews. No other American ethnic, religious, civilian, or military group has such a privileged or special office with an Assistant to the President for Jewish Affairs in the White House, other than American Jews. No group has immediate access to the President on such issues as foreign policy, budget matters, military issues, aid to Israel, or who Israel deems next to be America's next enemy or a candidate for the all important "Terrorism" list. Saying NO TO ISRAEL automatically puts a person or nation on the "List? RECYCLED JEWISH INFLUENCE Influential Pro-Israel Jews are constantly in and out of the U.S. Government in jobs important to Israel such as in the National Security Council (During Clinton's term, 7 out of the 11 members of the NSC were Jews), the State Department, Pentagon, Ambassadorships and so on. Such "expert" Jews flow with ease between important national security jobs in the Government and Jewish owned or Israeli funded Washington Think Tanks, such as the Washington Institute for Near East Policy or other Conservative Think Tanks such as the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute, the Cato Institute, the Council of Foreign Relations and others. "Expert" such as Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk, Steven Grossman, Eliot Abrams, Richard Hass, Paul Wolfowitz, Stuart Eizenstat and so on. For decades American foreign policy positions dealing with the Middle East have always been given to Jewish Americans, such is the "honest broker" policy in the MidEast. It seems there are no other Americans capable of filling such positions. Currently the most powerful Zionists in the government are those who want Americans to die in Iraq for Israel's sake Eliot Abrams in charge of MidEast policy at the NSC; Paul Wolfowitz at the Pentagon, and Richard Perle of the Pentagon Advisory Council. Neither the President of the United States, nor his Cabinet, nor the United Nations, nor the European Union, nor Russia (the so-called "Quartet" group for MidEast peace) have any influence in the Middle East not approved by Israel. JEWISH WEALTH ?Roughly 60% of the donations to the Democratic National Committee is from Jewish donors. America's corrupt campaign financing laws forces candidates to pander to Israel's supporters for money in exchange for all the billions, weapons, and vetoes at the U.N. Israel wants. Now that Bush's warpath on Arabs and Muslims pleases Israel, Jewish Americans are supporting Republican candidates and dumping Democrats their historical allies. To Israel and Jewish Americans there is only ONE LITMUS TEST for their Money, Votes, and favorable Media Coverage WHICH political party supports Israel the most and allows Israel a free hand to drench the soil of peace in the Holy Land with Arab Christian and Muslim blood. Today it's President Bush and the Republican Congress. Bush learned from his father's defeat after Desert Storm four important lessons Never Cross American Jews Never Cross the Religious Right Showcasing America?s Military Power overseas is popular. Give Tax Cuts to the Rich, they?ll repay you with enormous Campaign Donations. Hence Bush's Economic Plan Addressees these Priorities Israel is to get $20 Billion in Free Aid this year to support it's Economic Recession, Pay for it's Military Occupation, and provide for Health Care, Housing, and Jobs for its Veterans-----of course while denying needy Americans and Veterans the same budgetary considerations. Launch War on Islam (estimated to cost $200 Billion or more) to placate the Conservative Religious Right comprising of such Godly Men of Peace as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Franklin Graham, Hal Lindsey, Jerry Vines, Benny Hinn, James Robison, John Hagee and the rest of the Christian "Tele--tubbie--Evangelists" whose aim is to kill Jews, Muslims, and anyone else to bring back the "Prince of Peace". Thus their plan for salvation is paved with war, death, and blood. Bush is cutting deeply into Domestic Programs such as aid for Heating Oil for the Poor, Education, Health Care, Social Security and Medicare, aid to States, while providing large Tax Cuts for the Rich and for the unpatriotic Corporations sheltered overseas to avoid paying taxes and hiring American Union workers. An Iraq War will provide billions in profits for Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld Oil Companies as well as the Military Industrial Complex where his father, family, and friends enjoy Board Directorship positions. NO such aid came to the millions of Americans who lost everything as a result of lies, fraud, and bankruptcy of Bush supported Corporations such as Enron. OKAY, YOU WANT PROOF OF MY STATEMENTS. I?m glad. It?s about time we don?t just swallow the official government and media ?lies? out of intellectual laziness. Our media acts as if we?re too stupid and lazy to search for the truth for ourselves. They depend on it. I would hope that the readers would have the courage and curiosity to search for such facts themselves. One can start with these websites, some are maintained by courageous compassionate Jews www.cactus48.com?(Jewish site on Origin of Israeli-Palestinian conflict); www.wrmea.com; www.mideastfacts.com? (great comprehensive site on the MidEast); www.electronicintafada.com; www.palestinechronicle.com; www.mediamonitors.net; www.aljazeerah.info; www.palestine-un.org/; www.mecaforpeace.org/; www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/mideast/mideast.htm; www.peacenow.org.il/English.asp www.freepalestinecampaign.org/?(great site of Int'l Solidarity Movement); www.mediamonitors.net/jamesjdavid17.html?(a recent important article by an American General (Ret) ONE IMPORTANT PROOF THAT IN AMERICA "JEWS" ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHER AMERICANS IS THE ILLEGAL AND OUTRAGEOUS PUBLIC FUNDING OF THE 'NATIONAL' HOLOCAUST MUSEUM UNITED STATES HOLOCAUST MUSEUM IN WASHINGTON D.C. (Established by the UNANIMOUS passage of Congressional legislation in October 1980 (Public Law 96-38. Although American Jews were not victims of the Holocaust and it was American soldiers who liberated Jews from Concentration Camps, the U.S. Government in response to Jewish pressure, donated federal land (Illegally) and paid with U.S. Tax dollars (illegally) to construct a PRIVATE Holocaust museum on the venerable American National Mall in Washington D.C. After paying for its construction, Congress annually appropriates the majority of the funds (tax money) for the Museum's maintenance. In fact, President Bill Clinton on October 13, 2000 signed Legislation Granting this "PRIVATE" Museum "Permanent Federal Status" which permits Congress to fund the museum annually without any question or review. From the U.S. Holocaust Museum Press Release October 13, 2000 Washington D.C.-----President Bill Clinton yesterday signed legislation that establishes permanent status for the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, which was created to be the national living memorial to the Holocaust and its victims. The Museum "serves as a constant and painful reminder that racism, anti-semitism and all forms of hatred are ever-present dangers, and that indifference to hatred makes each of us complicit in some way," President Clinton said. The granting of permanent status is significant as an expression of the importance the U.S. government places on the Museum. Permanent status permits Congress to provide funding without having to review the Federal role. "The presence of permanent authorization for appropriations signifies that America?s national memorial to the victims of the Holocaust is now an integral part of our capital city. It represents our nation?s permanent commitment to never forget past failures of responsibility and to enlist conscience to uphold life and law permanently. Therefore, the memorial stands so appropriately among our greatest monuments to democracy," says the Chair of the United States Holocaust Memorial Council, Rabbi Irving Greenberg. "Permanent authorization enhances the Museum?s ability to function as one of OUR government?s most successful public-private partnerships," says the Museum?s Director Sara Bloomfield..... This momentous initiative is another reflection of the strong bipartisan support the Museum enjoys." The Museum opened more than seven years ago on land provided by the Federal government, which also contributes towards basic operating costs......The current FY02 budget for the Museum is $55.4 million, with $34.4 million contributed by the federal government and $21.0 million from private contributions. Congress deems it unworthy to provide public funding to honor America?s Veterans in Washington D.C. for the following Wars and Sacrifices. World War I Memorial World War II Memorial (privately funded) A Korean War Memorial (privately funded) A Vietnam Memorial (privately funded) An African-American Slavery Museum A Native American Holocaust Museum A Revolutionary War Memorial A Civil War Memorial An American Women Armed Services Memorial A National Pearl Harbor Museum in Washington D.C. So Why a "Holocaust Museum" and not a publicly funded Memorial for American Veterans? The answer from one of the most powerful Jewish Americans in Washington D.C., a man no one dares refuse his phone call, not meet with him immediately, or publish his letters or opinion pieces. Abraham H. Foxman, National Director of the Anti-Defamation League (A.D.L.) On the Frontline, January 1994 p. 2, gives the following answer to this question "The Holocaust is something different. It is a singular event. It is not simply one example of genocide but a near successful attempt on the life of God's chosen children and thus, on God Himself. It is an event that is the antithesis of Creation as recorded in the Bible; and like it's direct opposite, which is relived weekly with the Sabbath and yearly with Torah, it must be remembered from generation to generation" Why should the AMERICAN TAXPAYER fund a private Holocaust Museum while America's own Veterans, men and women who've honorably served this country from the Revolutionary War onward have NO publicly funded monument or museum in their honor? This outrageous shame continues while Congressmen compete to provide more funds to Jewish American Museums around the country. Adding insult to injury they shamefully DENY funding of Veterans issues such as health care, pensions, disabilities, and retirement compensation. AMERICA NEEDS ITS PROUD VETERANS ONCE AGAIN TO ANSWER THE CALL FOR ITS SECOND INDEPENDENCE. This time Independence from a small opportunistic foreign nation called Israel. It's time our Veterans provide the political strength and leadership to reclaim our Government to serve the American people and their needs and not the needs of the 16th wealthiest nation on earth, Israel, simply because of a powerful small Jewish lobby, has received $1.7 Trillion from the American taxpayer since 1949 and continues to receive 40% of all of America's foreign aid while all of Africa and Latin America get pennies per person. Americans are once again being taxed twice Once for America and Once for Israel, except with Israel this constitutes "Taxation Without Representation" in that Americans have no voice on how their money and weapons are used. Muslim and Christian children are dying in Palestine with America's bullets, missiles, and tanks. Is our America "the land of the brave and home of the free" or is it Israel's America "the land of the silenced cowards, the land of Israel's hostages" American Veterans have always been ready to defend our nation and Constitution. However, once their job and sacrifice was completed our own Government disowned, ignored, neglected, and denied their just and fair compensation. In fact, World War I Veterans had to resort to marching on Washington D.C. in the "Bonus Army March" of 1932 to demand restitution of unpaid pensions. The Government's caring response was to send in the military to evict them forcefully from the city. Today, America's Veterans are seeking to recreate a second "Bonus March" on Washington of One Million Vets to once again protest our Government's shanty treatment of these courageous American heroes. In a recent editorial (1/2/2003) titled "Ill-Treated Veterans", the Boston Globe excoriates President Bush and the country for breaking the promise to Veterans for a life time benefit of health care if they serve 20 years. This is in spite of President Bush's statement to the American Legion during his 2000 campaign that ''we have a responsibility to fulfill the health care commitments made to those who wore the uniform.'' It is shocking that our brave men and women who've served this country honorably have to resort to a class action suit to reclaim their health benefits. (See http//www.classact-lawsuit.com/response.html) Veterans are often homeless, without jobs, training, health care, drug and alcohol addiction, suffer from chronic physical and mental health problems (Gulf War Syndrome, Agent Orange, Radiation Sickness), and have higher divorce rates. According to a recent survey by Rescue Missions "One in three homeless men at Rescue Missions Are Veterans. While more than 40 percent of Homeless Vets Served in Vietnam alone.? An American Veteran wrote a letter to former Republican Senator Alan Simpson seeking relief and assistance for America's Veterans. Here's part of Senator Simpson's response "You made a choice to make the military a career, and no agency can match the benefit level of the military pension. All federal programs are, as they should, being subject to extra scrutiny as Congress looks to regain fiscal sanity in the government."???????????? AUG. 29, 1996 No American politician would DARE send such a letter to a Jewish American organization or to an Israeli official claiming fiscal responsibility and scrutiny as reasons to deny Israel the Billions it DEMANDS and ALWAYS GETS. For 30 years, Congress was automatically doling out Billions to Israel despite a massive federal budget deficit, massive debt, and massive cuts in domestic programs. Congress takes Israel's "grants" out first from the budget and then balances the budget on the backs of America's Seniors, Veterans, Minorities, Poor, and even America's schools and children. In fact, on April 14, 1999, Senators l Moynihan (D-NY), Fitzgerald (R-IL), Charles Schumer (D-NY), and Spencer Abraham (R-MI) introduced legislation exempting all restitution payments to Holocaust victims and their heirs to be exempt from federal income tax. American Veterans should be so lucky for willing to die for their country. God Bless America and the World with Peace, Courage, Justice, and Wisdom. "The moon gives you light And the bugles and the drums give you music, And my heart, O my soldiers, my veterans, My heart gives you love." Walt Whitman (1819?1892), U.S. poet. Dirge for Two Veterans (l. 33?36). Mr. Mohamed Khodr is an American Muslim physician and a native from the Middle East. He has worked in Academic Medicine and Public health with national and international health experience. He is a freelance writer who often writes columns on the Palestinian cause, Islam and on America's Foreign Policy in the Middle East.
  • I'm gonna settle this once and for all!!!!!

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    Right, this question of twret and enjyl is going to be sorted out right now. I forget the exact reference but you know what I am talking about. "therefore let the people of the enjyl judge according to what god has inspired therein". 1st thing - the word enjyl is unlikely to be a pure Arabic word. It possibly could come from n-j-l meaning 'descendant', in which case this can only be purely descriptive. It is much more likely to be an Arabization of the Greek eu-aggelion, 'good message' which in turn was Aramized into 'ewangleeon'. 2nd thing - the eu-aggelion could only have been a single message emanating from the mouth of the messiah 'eysaa. If the qur-en was revealed in around 600AD or whenever then there is plenty of evidence to show that the eu-aggelion as we have them now are pretty much the same as they were before the qur'en's revelation. The 4 gospels as we know them were canonized before 600AD as being the 'authentic ones' and the others were discarded. These other gospels such as Thomas, Nazarenes, Infancy etc don't really contain anything one can regard as being in line the qur'en's rationality. If you see them for yourself they appear to blend in some mythology. HOWEVER that is not to say that the canonical ones don't either. What we have to do is exactly what god has said "judge according to what god has INSPIRED" to do this we need to study these texts as ardently as we study the qur'en. We can suitably deduce the bulk of the message of the messiah from the scripts that we have. As for the twret, there are some references in the qur'en to "an eye for an eye", not eating that which parts the hoof, quite a few elements of moses experience in Egypt and so on. In addtion god says in the zbwr that 'the righteous among my servants will inherit the earth' - ALL of this can be found in the present day Masoretic, Septuagint, Peshitta and Receptus texts. What WE have to do is use our judgment to decide what is from god and what is not. The harmony of the texts can be accomplished by some significant hard work. Alright then, so peace out, catch ya later, keep it real, and any other Americanisms and modern youth cultural ways of saying 'bye' that are in existence.