Questions/Comments on the Quran

So what do you think? Do you think the man they ascribe fits the messenger of the quran? Salam Bender, Quran 16103 And We certainly know that they say, "It is only a human being who teaches him. The tongue of the one who deviates on him is foreign, and this is clear Arabic language. My question is, Green - Who was the HUMAN BEING who teaches? Red - Who was the "him" that was taught? peace

Those diacritical markers are not native with the Arabic of Quran but inserted by interpreters later. They mean nothing according to the author. They are supposed to give pronunciation help and knowing how a word should be interpreted although the problem is this interpretation hint is according to those interpreters. Sorry for not having answered your post on the other forum yet. Be well Amenuel

rest and bounty and a garden of pleasure (5689) Other cases, however, are written with t' marbtah Near it is the Garden of Refuge (5315) Unquote Here again his eyes miserably failed him to notice the difference of indefinite and definiteness. First is indefinite, second is definite.

Dear Wakas, Salamun alaika, When someone says "time of acknowledgement", the natural question that will arise is to ask him acknowledgment of what? Therefore, kindly explain what you acknowledge at the "time of acknowledgment".

Humans can hibernate in certain conditions....not sure if it they can go for years though. Very interesting! I believe those sleepers hibernate.

Whenever you read the Quran in the 1st person singular, that is the direct speech of ALLAH. Other than that, like what you quote, it is the saying of the Prophet or the Spirit. As for the "Royal We", meaning "ALLAH, HIS Prophet and the Spirit". http//3.bp.blogspot.com/--h4eLCX9klE/UZHjEBYfY2I/AAAAAAAADoo/W5bcUQjtXls/s1600/thumb-up-facebook-emoticon-like-symbol.png

Nobody will find the body of such king of Egypt because he does to exist. No Exodus from Egypt and no hebrews in Egypt ever. Salaam

So far I found this If both Male & Female are directed towards Supreme Pleasure (Remembrance of The Ilah/Approval from our Rabb/Sustainer) then by means of that Paradise, Then If the Male supports the Female with wealth - Wealth meaning resources of all kinds which The Sustainer/Ar-Raziq has honoured them with Then if they surrender to The Just Then if they walk together to the Hereafter Then that is fitting of the term Muhsinin What this allows for is for both partners to work so their each waking Breath/Ruh/Spirit is for the Remembrance of The Supreme, The Divinely Just, The Solace (Al-Samad), The Refuge, Then they are both directed in their course as Male supporting the Female and Female resting the Male every step of the way whether they are in their physical process together or away from each other environmentally Then each Breath/Ruh/Prana earning the Remembrance of The Most High, The Elegant, leads to a Male=Female Witness - There is Union (See White Tantra/Samadhi/Inner Alchemy) They are One Unified being, As Two Vessels, Each Whole, a Servant to the Supreme, Joined by Wholesome Unification in Surrender to the Supreme One alone who holds no associates Then they are with each other in Spirit/Ruh, Nafs/Self, Qalb/Heart and their Witness is Eternal Neither do their thought, word, nor deed or silence do anything but support each other to perform Acts of Service to The Deity, The Divine, The One, The Living, to Stand Forward as Conjoined Witness on the Final Day for Perfect Justice So the Male's Living Force flows into the Female's Always So the Female's Living Force flows into the Male's Always There is Divine Balance - Unity between Complements, Between Mutual Pairs, Male-Female - Harmony As there is an Information-Unified Field tether between both hearts linking them through distance it cannot be any other way, it can only be this way for Surrender That which affects one mutually affects both, there is no separation, only dignity afforded to each This is scientifically falsifiable and verifiable through the mapping of shapes and topology and nodes through 4D+ space (Infinite Dimensional Holographic Space/Akasha/Unified Field/Cosmic Manifold) This then is a Perfect Relationship. Glory be to Our Sustainer The Living Who Designs With Flawless Proportion of Perfect Symmetry, Ratios of Infinite Magnificence, Grandeur, Beauty Reasoning As ratio of worldly time elapsed Eternity/Unending time Then any Breath-Time spent on worldly enjoyment => 0/False, Eternally Where "=>" defined as 'mathematically tends towards' As 0.99999(...)9 = 1 Then any Breath-Time spent striving to Supreme Remembrance and to The Jannah/The Heaven/The Paradise = 1/True, Eternally https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999... I.e. perceiving time correctly recognising this entire Universe is eternal even though it will cease altogether it will be present in the next as a trace, a vestige, then all actions are Eternal - they are Real. While all decays, our Sustainer who has witnessed all of this, Eternity before the universe, and the Universe Creation, and then the Final Day, then Eternity in the Afterlife, all is beheld in the Being - Consciousness never forgets, witnesses all it has thought So all we do in this Life eternally influences our relationship with The Deity/The Sustainer/The One As we are aware we are allocated a limited number of breaths or geometric seasonal cycles (1-2-3-4 repeating on every time scale - Spring/Summer/Autumn/Winter - Cradle to the Adolescence to the Peak to the Falling Away) If people walk towards Paradise, you draw a triangle, /\ like the top of the triangle both sides point to the same place The Most High Allah calling Souls to return If people walk in different directions you cannot draw this triangle, because one is walking towards, one away, or both away. This triangle will not point to Allah. So all the criteria for relationships by Absolute Decree is to be with this kept in mind Then neither can the relationship be based on Taghut (e.g. mortgage) or any kind of usury for that is turning away from Allah and associating Iblis, Shirk, Nifaq/Munafiq/Hypocrisy - including but not limited to debt-based wealth or slave-labour. Divine Justice cannot be pick-and-choose. Breath-Time-Energy is of prime importance and all Breath-Time-Energy explicitly goes to Our Source, The Sustainer/Ar-Raziq. Then All Breath-Time-Energy-Wealth of Creation dwells eternally, it is Jannah in the dunya and Jannah in the Akhirah These memories are Precious and Forever, Eternal By these criteria we can rule out every kind of relationship which is not wholesome. Proof by Contradiction. Feel free to respond, all thoughts welcome however small or simple or insignificant, you could change a life for the better, and fruit eternally. All Praise be to The Consciousness who is Most Excellent at Proportioning

Wakas jedi Thanks for demonstrating you have no verse which shows Moses was sent to AAlameena, unlike messenger of Quran ;D Let's examine your claim about 34 as the "biggest prove" He sent down to you the book with truth, authenticating what is present with it; and He sent down the Torah and the Injeel. From before as a guidance for the people, and He sent down the Criterion. Those who rejected the revelations of God..... Pay close attention to the "and". The part in blue obviously refers to the torah/injeel. So your claim may or may not be correct. However I find it telling you consider this your "biggest prove" as it seems like grasping at straws. But dont take my word for it - ask any long term forum member here, see if they conclude what you conclude. I should also point out that you put Muhammad in brackets (since its not in the Arabic) and it says kitab not quran. The ?AlKitab? is referring to the Quran considering the fact that the Quran confirms what is between, support it of the Book that is the Furqan and the sections which is within it! Please check 0291; 0548; 09111; 1037; 12111; 3431; 3531; 4629-30. So, if I follow your logic, it will be something like below? We sent down to you the book with truth, confirming what is between, support it; and I sent down the Tawrat and the Injeel from before as guidance for Mankind? and I sent down the Furqan. The Tawrat and Injeel, from the Quranic perspective were NEVER as guidance to MANKIND as a whole but to a certain extent. The Quran confirms that the Tawrat was a Section of the Book that was given to the Jews and Israelites nations during the ministry of Prophet Dawood and Sulaiman. Probably during the era of Sulaiman, Prophet Esa ibn Maryam came along and the Injeel was sent to him thru his mother for the Israelite nation ONLY. Further, to elucidate my point, the Quran 0548 And We have revealed to you, the Book in truth, confirming that is between, support it of the Book and as enforcer over it. So judge between them by what ALLAH has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you ALL We prescribed a law and a method?? The law and method had already been prescribed by the LORD to Mankind. So from what you wrote, it is incorrect that the Tawrat and Injeel was sent to mankind as whole. The Furqan was sent to mankind. However, you are right, when I read again the Quran 2501 and 3223, it is correct to say that the Last Prophet received the Furqan but with some substitution, cross referencing 16101 And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and ALLAH is most knowing of what HE sends down - they say, "You, are but an inventor." But most of them do not know. Also please refer to 06155; 1037 and 1689, the Furqan and Quran are both Books of explanation! From my understanding, the Last Prophet received the Furqan with some substitution. This second Furqan is the Quran, cross referencing 1587 And We have certainly given you, seven / several of the second one and the Great Qur'an.

Does the Quran not state that 'we sent it down gradually' ? I can't remember the ayah though. Yes I remember reading that ayat.check the index of the Quran at the end if the book.

P.s god, in my understanding implies that anyone with open ears and heart will be guided by and see the truth in the Quran, so in that regard I do think that this idea is 'not that big of a deal' but would ease effective study of the Quran and make the learning process easier. I don't know though. Ultimately God guides those who he wills to guide and are willing to be guided

It is hard to translate the equivalent meaning but I believe advocate would also fit as part of it

Salaam Do you see in context clues that ALLAH sent an Angel to do the "we" part? Compared to verse related to planning which usually don't contain we. Also defining "we" helps we who the party of ALLAH. Who's in the party of ALLAH? Do the angels count as believers? What part do you play? Maybe ALLAH wishes to teach is to identify with the Quran?

Sorry also the next verse speak of this day.... The day the verse is revealed or is it a day out of the hajji in the sacred precinct? I know it's both but what was this day in the life and times of muhammad, the Abrahamic monotheistic prophet of ALLAH? I assume it will be similar in our daily lives.

Carry on with your discussion. I responded only because you mentioned me and then you replied to it. But remember I haven't forgotten the hadiths.

Actually the two verses contradict each other, reel, they cause inconsistency. The articulation is not perfect. All is from God, but the next passage says bad is from yourself. The alleged say command in the interpretation is for "all is from God", but subsequently it says bad is from yourself. That is not logical and hence inconsistent. The correct answer is obviously that everything is God. Be well Amenuel A member's explanation below. Ignore his criticism about another member. Enquirer, its sad that you don't know but even sadder that you dont WANT to know. You're hell-bent on proving the quran wrong which stops you from even READING the verses. Here's the explanation for you 4.78 uses the phrase 'qul kullun min AAindi Allahi '. It doesn't say 'say everything is from ALLAH' but 'everything is from AAINDA Allah'. If you 'rational' (sic) analysis was even a little credible, you'd know that this word shows its part of Allah's Will, like al-islaam is ad-deen AAINDA Allah. 4.79 speaks of the nafs, i.e. the centre of perception, feelings, emotions. This is why the verse says 'ma asabaka min sayyiat FAMIN nafsikka, i.e. its our nafs which says something is 'bad'. This is why I asked you about the nafs. Sadly, with the superficiality of your analysis doubled with the arrogance of your intention to sentence al-quraan, you don't want to even look at it. It's not 'childish' to ask for a detailed analysis with the actual text rather than 'versions' and coming up with 'far-fetched' nonsense. http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11757.msg81988#msg81988

Oh it's a paid thing? Muhammad did it for free. I never really saw a Muslim paid for anything Islam based. I probably have to learn the economics of an ummah or something

Mof has a point it's almost a math thing. A true that points to a similar truth it like 2+2 it give you limits to reasoning it gives you example methods of finding the next true or discovering a flaw. Had you ever thought about how smart you've become after reading the Quran? How you now posses a degree of knowledge and reason above many of your peers? People still ask "how can you tell?" And slowly your coming to the question "Why can't you?" Remember chemistry is always magic to an idiot lol.

Semantics of Grand Qur'aan - Dictionary of Roots and and Lexicon of Qur'aan Introduction Semantics of Qur'aan is like "semantics" of DNA?triplet schema Root + Morphology + Syntax Features of this project Explains the semantic essence and irreducible features embedded in each Root. Its semantic field and other roots relating to its domain. Links Lane Lexicon html Links Classical Lexicons All words stemming from the Root that occur in Qur'aan and mentioned in the Root page Morpholigical and syntactic features of words are also mentioned. Help is sought for completing it. Semantics of Grand Qur'aan - Dictionary of Roots and and Lexicon of Qur'aan

Satan is an enemy in almost every religion as well so calling to ALLAH for is refuge is an everyday thing he be plottin' lol that starts your prayer.