Islamic Calendar & Ramadhan.

Peace everyone! Just a thought to the wise out there, Why don't we celebrate the 3 festivals that were actually decreed by God in the Torah??? (Exodus 2314) Isn't it because he did not decree it upon us? Well who decreed the so called "Eid" celebration? Mixing tradition with religion is not a wise thing. This is why you see different traditional-based muslims, who mix their tradition with religion.

peace all, Someone else has written a critique of Qamar Zaman's work on "sawm" http//www.scribd.com/doc/63347625/az-vs-qz-on-saum So many errors.

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Greetings and Peace, all group Per Quranic Guidance, does taking medicine violate a fast? Is taking medicine the same as eating and drinking? May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers. peace ~Abdul-Hadi God is not barbaric to place hardship on his servants. If you are unable to fast because you have to take medication then it is not a problem with God. Fasting is only prescribed to those who have the means to do it. 2184 A number of days. Whoever of you is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days; and as for those who can do so but with difficulty, they may redeem by feeding the needy. Whoever does good voluntarily, it is better for him. If you fast, it is better for you if you knew. 2185 The month of Ramadan, in which the Quran was sent down as a guide to the people and a clarification of the guidance and the criterion. Therefore, those of you who witness the month shall fast therein. Whoever is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days. God wants to bring you ease and not to bring you hardship; and so that you may complete the count, and glorify God because He has guided you, that you may be thankful. If the person is ill God allows the person to do the fast on separate days. If he or she is unable to do so then that person should may feed the needy. Religious duties are not meant to put hardship on God's followers nor are they meant for God. They are meant for us so that God will distinguish those who are best in following his deen. Regarding your question whether or not medicine violates a fast I believe that the answer to that is obvious. If one is ill one needs medicine. According to the Quran the ill are not forced to fast. So those who are ill it really shouldn't matter whether you fast or not, God has given you another means to redeem yourself(feeding the needy, doing good voluntarily, or fast on separate days).

Thankz for the info bro ayman.

If it was up to personal choice, I'd have to say winter. Peace But how can you say such a thing in a hemispheric world? Roshan

laylat el kadr has nothing to do with ramadan ,two seperate issues."anzalnahu fi laylat el kadr",nothing is mentioned that reveals that it was the quran that was sent during that day.it says though that the angels and spirit was sent on that day. salam

great, good for you sis )

If you can not fast, give charity to the needy during the month. There is no compulsion if your health does not allow. God is merciful. Dont risk your life and health.

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Salam, We do not advocate the Hijri calendar as it is clearly wrong . The Quran advocates a luni-solra system which has been explaed in detail on the pages of this website. Regards, laugh bravo

Eid Mubarak to all

Thank you Wakas. It makes complete sense because before the age of sound judgement, the children follow from blind faith, fear, bribery etc. I suppose its one thing to gently involve them and expose them to what we follow, and quite another to make it compulsory without choice. As it is, raising a child is difficult, and to do so in an atmosphere of constant scrutiny helps neither the parent nor the child.

happy ramadan

Hi ugur and welcome! peace Personally, I think your concerns are justified. Our bodies lose at least two to three liters of liquid per day when it is very hot, and are only able to "store" 1/4 to 1/2 liter per hour. So theoretically, you would have to stay up most of the night in order to assure that you get all the water you need. Now not everyone can afford to do that when they have to work or look after their families / kids. Maybe you can try it and see how it goes, and in case your body can't take it, you break your fast and make up for the days later, or give money instead. I know some German Muslims who solve this problem by using Mecca time for fasting, maybe that is something worth considering for you? thanks you all for replying to me post and for takin the time to help me with this issue. Leyna, you said that you know some muslims in germany that solved this problem by fasting according to the mecca`s time, but do you think this is against the quran or just the most resonable option for us muslims in europe peace, Ugur

Peace, I really don't know how to take that last post. I was always under the impression that the zodiac was in sync with the solar year. Solar year meaning a year based on the equinoxes and solstices NOT seasons. I have no clue about the lunar year being in sync with some celestial calendar (I know of no celestial calendar other than the zodiacal one). So some more evidence might be necessary. As for getting the real Ramadan. As of now I think it coincides with what we have now. As for al-ash-hur al-hurum. I'm going to base on this on liguistic and Quranic evidence. And Quranically the only ash-hur that would have a reason to be consider hurum because they are months of hurmah are the months of pilgrimage and Ramadan. I know everyone and their mother will have a response about how wrong my approach is because it is based in great part on the linguistics of Arabic and not solely on the Quran etc. etc. ad naseum. As for those who see where I am coming from, I hope it makes sense. Godbless, Anwar

to say that ramadan means the scorching heat then this is " taweel" to say a word means sometihng so that it fits our understanding. i dont think i can agree with that. look at the possibilities. peace.

MashaAllah, I like submissive people... -* rotfl

first of all let us agree on what a shaher is , yes every one tell you it is a month ,well it is not . all we know is that a shaher is present twelve times in a year. and it is both lunar and solar.very well. ok the prophet was told to tell us in the quran about the ahillat ,we need to use them so we know time of haj.good so what is a shaher. it is the ahillat,but hey wait a minute am i saying that a month is from one ahillah to another.like maybe 26 days no not at all. a ahillat is the combination of the hillals that is between or around five days. when the moon dies and there are those nights with out the moon then the moon is born again.those nights are what we call a shaher.yes those nights with out a moon. yes that is a shaher and i will show you why. is is like only about five days. and we have twelve of them in one year.so that we know the years. good so it starts with the deiing of the moon to the birth of a new one,now why did allah tell us in the verse in the quran that we should come the homes from the door and not from the back,for if we count the ahiilat from the birth of a new moon then one shaher would be like 26 days but if come from the door of the shaher it will be like only five days. strange what makes me say that,ok give one more minute.see about ashhur el haram,what could there be that we know them. bare with me ,so now we know that a shaher is not the moon cycle,but the cycle of the ahillat.great,so how do we know ashhur al haram,we know from quran they are four.in one year four of those shahers have less nights then the ussuall ashhur.yes it is strange they are the shahers that come after the shaher of ramadan.and i will tell you how we know it is ramadan ,give me another minute. onlythose ashhur all haram are seperate from eachother they like have two ashhur between them that are regular ashhur.in ahshur all haram their nights are only four and the rest of the ashhur have five nights. so ashhur all haram are about four days long each and they are four.they come in pairs,this is what the test shows and often they are devided by a pair of regular shahers not months dont make the mistake of thinking a shaher is month. it is a shaher ,the days and nights where one cannot see the mooon between the ahillat. then we need to know when is ramadan.for it is true that the ashhur all haram start after the shaher of ramadan and that is what i have noticed.so know how do we know that ramadan has started. or it is the coming shaher . the quran tells us that the shaher of ramadan is a shaher of bayinat that we will be signaled with many signs to know it is it. so let us see,since it is only a five night and day shaher as all the other regular shahers then it must be evident during the days that come before it that will give us all those signs.that it will be clear that this month is different. so let us see together what are those signs. 1-the rain will start to fall again after a long summer.ramadan 2 change of season. 3-plants beggin to grow again. 4-the days stop form getting bigger and they start to get smaller. 5-one big moon in the sky and i mean really big. the biggest you can find all year round.the collor is different too. 6-the sun is different during sun set even after it sets those collors are differnt and the sun have a round shape we can see,with out hurting our eyes.it is also the biggest sun we can ever see. 7- all this in a few days likesome twenty days.or twenty six and can be found together with in that time frame. 6-some call the moon the harvest moon for the fulll moon during that time is full of light,and one can see very clearly. so we get all those signs and then we know that the time this time when the moon is not there any more for those comming few days it is called the shaher of ramadan.yes five days we are ordered to fast those days without a moon. during those days is lalayet al qadr.remmember when the quran says,(wa kan kaba qawsayne aw adna)yes between those too cresents when there is no moon to light the night,and there is only darkness it is the shaher. the thing about those ashhur el hurum and ramadan well they dont change seasons,yes mostly ramadan is in september or october,and the hurum ashhur basically come,in march april and october december. but do the experiments your selfs dont take my word for it. inshaalah allah will lead us with the quran and nothing else,every thing else is shurk and will result in many ikhtilaf. brother please forgive me if i have mistaken or mislead you in any way. Allah knows best.

first of all let us agree on what a shaher is , yes every one tell you it is a month ,well it is not . all we know is that a shaher is present twelve times in a year. and it is both lunar and solar.very well. ok the prophet was told to tell us in the quran about the ahillat ,we need to use them so we know time of haj.good so what is a shaher. it is the ahillat,but hey wait a minute am i saying that a month is from one ahillah to another.like maybe 26 days no not at all. a ahillat is the combination of the hillals that is between or around five days. when the moon dies and there are those nights with out the moon then the moon is born again.those nights are what we call a shaher.yes those nights with out a moon. yes that is a shaher and i will show you why. is is like only about five days. and we have twelve of them in one year.so that we know the years. good so it starts with the deiing of the moon to the birth of a new one,now why did allah tell us in the verse in the quran that we should come the homes from the door and not from the back,for if we count the ahiilat from the birth of a new moon then one shaher would be like 26 days but if come from the door of the shaher it will be like only five days. strange what makes me say that,ok give one more minute.see about ashhur el haram,what could there be that we know them. bare with me ,so now we know that a shaher is not the moon cycle,but the cycle of the ahillat.great,so how do we know ashhur al haram,we know from quran they are four.in one year four of those shahers have less nights then the ussuall ashhur.yes it is strange they are the shahers that come after the shaher of ramadan.and i will tell you how we know it is ramadan ,give me another minute. onlythose ashhur all haram are seperate from eachother they like have two ashhur between them that are regular ashhur.in ahshur all haram their nights are only four and the rest of the ashhur have five nights. so ashhur all haram are about four days long each and they are four.they come in pairs,this is what the test shows and often they are devided by a pair of regular shahers not months dont make the mistake of thinking a shaher is month. it is a shaher ,the days and nights where one cannot see the mooon between the ahillat. then we need to know when is ramadan.for it is true that the ashhur all haram start after the shaher of ramadan and that is what i have noticed.so know how do we know that ramadan has started. or it is the coming shaher . the quran tells us that the shaher of ramadan is a shaher of bayinat that we will be signaled with many signs to know it is it. so let us see,since it is only a five night and day shaher as all the other regular shahers then it must be evident during the days that come before it that will give us all those signs.that it will be clear that this month is different. so let us see together what are those signs. 1-the rain will start to fall again after a long summer.ramadan 2 change of season. 3-plants beggin to grow again. 4-the days stop form getting bigger and they start to get smaller. 5-one big moon in the sky and i mean really big. the biggest you can find all year round.the collor is different too. 6-the sun is different during sun set even after it sets those collors are differnt and the sun have a round shape we can see,with out hurting our eyes.it is also the biggest sun we can ever see. 7- all this in a few days likesome twenty days.or twenty six and can be found together with in that time frame. 6-some call the moon the harvest moon for the fulll moon during that time is full of light,and one can see very clearly. so we get all those signs and then we know that the time this time when the moon is not there any more for those comming few days it is called the shaher of ramadan.yes five days we are ordered to fast those days without a moon. during those days is lalayet al qadr.remmember when the quran says,(wa kan kaba qawsayne aw adna)yes between those too cresents when there is no moon to light the night,and there is only darkness it is the shaher. the thing about those ashhur el hurum and ramadan well they dont change seasons,yes mostly ramadan is in september or october,and the hurum ashhur basically come,in march april and october december. but do the experiments your selfs dont take my word for it. inshaalah allah will lead us with the quran and nothing else,every thing else is shurk and will result in many ikhtilaf. brother please forgive me if i have mistaken or mislead you in any way. Allah knows best.