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A discussion for the locations and evidence of the many Kingdoms and people mentioned in the Quran.

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  • Makka or "makka"

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    God's blessings, I came to this conclusion earlier and I perfectly agree with you. I think that the tense can be changed to make it apply to the people of that day and to us today, but your understanding of Makkah I perfectly agree with. Godbless, Anwar
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    This may have been mentioned before but I will post it anyways An Inscription Mentioning The building/Rebuilding Of Al-Masjid Al-Ḥarām 78 AH / 697-698 CE I found it interesting the inscription reads building but it is commonly understood as rebuilding/remodelling. https//www.islamic-awareness.org/history/islam/inscriptions/haram1 Quotes from explanatory text This is the earliest dated documentary text to mention al-Masjid al-Ḥarām and it is also the earliest dated popular rock inscription to mention Prophet Muḥammad. Umayyad caliph ʿAbd al-Malik b. Marwān started the reconstruction of al-Masjid al-Ḥarām in the year 75 AH after it sustained damage by the catapults of al-Ḥajjāj b. Yūsuf during his siege (and eventual death) of ʿAbdullāh b. al-Zubayr (d. 73 AH / 692 CE). The events of the second civil war are attested in a contemporary Syriac Christian source, John bar Penkaye, written c. 687 CE, where there is mention of the ‘sanctuary’ (i.e., al-Masjid al-Ḥarām) where some of the fighting occurred. Another contemporary Syriac Christian source, Letters of Jacob of Edessa, written sometime between 684 and 708 CE, further identifies the Muslim direction of prayer toward the Ka’ba, noting it was not the same direction to which the Jews faced in prayer, namely Jerusalem. See, M. P. Penn, When Christian First Met Muslims A Sourcebook Of The Earliest Syriac Writings On Islam, 2015, University of California Press (USA), p. 98 & pp. 172-173. Above might help someone piece together the puzzle. I found the above when I was looking for evidence for the mention of the alleged most or one of the most famous tribes/clans of Arabia the Quraysh. Seems there is little to no evidence of early mention of them.
  • Ghazwa in the Islamic History

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    Ghazwa in Islamic History Ghazwa, a term denoting battles from the early years of Islam, holds profound significance in Islamic history. These conflicts, led by Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) and his companions, served multiple purposes, including self-defense, protection of the Muslim community, and the propagation of Islam. Quranic verses such as those in Surah Baqarah emphasize the principles guiding these battles, notably fighting in self-defense and avoiding transgression. The hadith further underscores the value placed on participating in such endeavors for the sake of Allah, highlighting their spiritual importance. Key Ghazwa Events The history of Ghazwa during the time of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon Him) offers critical insights into the challenges faced by the early Muslim community. Events like the Ghazwa of Badr, where Muslims faced overwhelming odds yet emerged victorious, and the Ghazwa of Uhud, which underscored the importance of unity and trust in Allah's plan, remain pivotal in Islamic teachings. Additionally, engagements such as the Ghazwa of Khandaq, demonstrating strategic ingenuity, and the Ghazwa of Tabuk, highlighting the test of faith, provide rich lessons for Muslims. Legacy and Significance The legacy of Ghazwa resonates through Islamic history, shaping the trajectory of the faith and the Muslim community's identity. These battles symbolize resilience, faith, and the struggle for justice in the face of adversity. The concept of martyrdom, as exemplified in the hadith and Quranic verses, further reinforces the valor and sacrifice associated with Ghazwa. Ultimately, the enduring significance of Ghazwa lies in its role in preserving and spreading Islam, reflecting the enduring spirit of the faith and its adherents.
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    Peace Please watch the video to answer this question https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfPlVpsvzww Also, a Greek priest of the 3rd century BCE wrote down a Babylonian legend of fish-men sent down from the heavens to impart knowledge to people. Many different cultures all speak of these beings coming down from the sky. They can't all just be myths or metaphors. This is a memory from previous civilisations.
  • Egypt knew no pharoes nor Israelite

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    Salam to all, What are you guys thinking about this clip By Dr. Ashraff ezzat https//youtu.be/ajVg6gbJnK8 God bless all
  • The History of Albien (Britain) to see the global system

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    Peace All, I'm writing a history of Britain, here is a link to part one https//earthcoinage.com/history-albien-britain/
  • blessed land/cities

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    salam i am a bit confused as to how many “blessed” cities there are in 3418 i understand blessed cities is plural so are there more than one “blessed” cities in the blessed land yes? 2171 and 7;137 for example mention the “land” which was blessed so it is a blessed land with many cities? might the blessed land be egypt? and muhammed actually lived in egypt? (or at least misr if one believes misr to not be egypt) 4029-31 people of pharaoh mention thamud, aad and people of noah ... so perhaps they knew about those people as they lived in same place?? thank you peace
  • Who was Al-Jahiz?

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    Salam/Peace dear siblings of Mankind and Allah (SWTAY) bless you all group group I have a question about Al-Jahiz's position. I have seeing claims that Al-Jahiz was a critic which i thought was very interesting. However i had a hard time finding any information on his criticism of hadith, the only one i found was Ignacio Sanchez scribd document but i can only read few pages because of the trial version https//www.scribd.com/document/326642601/Ignacio-Sanchez-Al-jahiz-and-Hadith-Criticism I wonder if there is some documentation of Al-Jahiz's critique of Hadith transmission and it's colllection.
  • Which land is 'this land' (Hatha albalad)?

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    'This Land' Hatha albalad Ibrahim prayed for the security of this land and protection from rendering service/worship to the alasnama that deluded many among the people <a href="http//tanzil.net/#1435">1435</a> This land is secured <a href="http//tanzil.net/#953">953</a> Muhammad and his father were citizens of this land <a href="http//tanzil.net/#901">901</a>-<a href="http//tanzil.net/#902">2</a> Muhammad was commanded to serve the Rabb of this land and to recite the Qur'an <a href="http//tanzil.net/#2791">2791</a>-<a href="http//tanzil.net/#2792">92</a> Alasnama deluded many among the people in this land Ibrahim setteled some of his progeny to establish Assalat in this land There is an uncultivable valley in this land The Baitullahi al-haram is located in this uncultivable valley of this land Ibrahim's prayers • Let people incline to them; • Let there be fruits for them; • Let them be grateful; • And let there be a messenger from among the people to recite to them the scripture. <a href="http//tanzil.net/#1435">1435</a>-<a href="http//tanzil.net/#1437">37</a> & <a href="http//tanzil.net/#2124">2124</a>-<a href="http//tanzil.net/#2129">129</a>
  • Stone structures in Saudi Volcanic Field

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    https//www.theepochtimes.com/scientist-discovers-400-mysterious-stone-structures-in-ancient-saudi-arabian-volcanic-field_2337560.html
  • The Church of Kathisma - prototype for the Dome of the Rock

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    Remains of a Byzantine-period church were discovered in 1992 near the Monastery of Mar Elias, when the highway between Jerusalem and Bethlehem was widened and a bulldozer accidentally uncovered and damaged a mosaic floor. In the first, limited excavations (October 1992 ? February 1993) only a section of the western part of the church was uncovered, revealing mosaic floors which were re-covered to ensure their preservation. Located in an ancient olive grove within the southern municipal borders of Jerusalem, on land owned by the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate, the site is bordered in the south by a terrace with an open water reservoir, known by its Arabic name, Bir Kadismu. Bir means water cistern or reservoir, Kadismu preserves the Greek name of the place, Kathisma, meaning "seat." Renewed excavations in 1997 revealed a large church built in the 5th century and restored in the 6th century. In the 8th century, it was converted into a mosque, and was destroyed shortly thereafter. The size of the building and its sophisticated, octagonal plan indicate that this was a church of great importance. Surrounding the flat, protruding rock (the "seat&quot, which is its focal point, were two octagonal hallways the inner one served as a walkway (ambulatoria) from which the worshippers could view the stone seat; the outer hallway was divided into rooms and four chapels. The whole church was surrounded by a square envelope, divided into rooms with mosaic floors. Nearly all the rooms of the church were paved in colored mosaics; some had been added in the 8th century. The mosaics are in many shades of red, yellow and green in a variety of floral and geometric designs, the small tessarae laid on a firm plaster bedding. Among the motifs are guilloches (braided bands) interspersed with medallions of floral designs. Depicted in the corners of the southern room of the church are four cornucopiae (horns of plenty), supporting acanthus leaves from which grape tendrils emanate. According to the 6th century "Life of Theodosius", the church and the monastery of the "Old Kathisma" were built by the wealthy widow Ikelia at the time of Juvenalis, Bishop of Jerusalem (450 ? 45. The account indicates that the church was built on the resting-place of Mary, halfway on the road from Jerusalem to Bethlehem, and dedicated to Mary Theotokos (God bearer). Also, that St. Theodosius himself, who lived in the 5th century, was sent for training as a monk to the monastery of the "Old Kathisma". From the 12th century onwards, a water cistern in this areas was noted as a holy site; it served as a refreshment and rest station for pilgrims traveling on the Jerusalem-Bethlehem road until the end of the last century. http//israeltours.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/kathisma-aerial.jpg http//israeltours.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/kathisma-plan.jpg It's clear to see how this octagonal church (destination of pilgrimage) was the prototype for the later Dome of the Rock also situated on top of a rock.
  • The Journey Of (Modern) Man

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    A nice website which presented an animated flow showing the migration of "modern" man.. From 150,000 years ago until 8,000 years ago.. or the time when (some) human initially adapted "Agriculture".. http//www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/ http//www.3sigma.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Journey-of-Mankind1.jpg It's derived from fossil findings and DNA/Genetical tracing of human living today and the found fossils.. Some of the things which I find interesting Gigantic explosion of Mt Toba around 74,000 years ago, which caused massive extinction of living beings, including human. Post-Toba explosion of human migration from east to west.. (which inline with the evolution of languages from Proto Indo-European to many western / middle eastern languages) Multiple wave of migration to American continent/ The animation was created in 2003, since then we have discovered additional facts such as Neanderthal and Modern Human 'cross breeding' which happened at least until 40,000 years ago.. This additional fact inline with the post-toba east - west migration of modern human. They (re) reached middle east/levant and europe around 45-40,000 years ago.... the native homeland of Neanderthal.. The animation above doesn't show any mass migration which happened in the last 8000 years.. which includes but not limited to Massive human migration from Europe and Africa to American continent Massive human migration from Europe to Australia Massive human migration from Northern Central Asia to Middle East and Europe (Turkic/Mongolian invasion)
  • the Prophet - Documentary

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    World Religions' Documentary on Prophecies about the Coming of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh&hp) http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWWRBV19W1k
  • dead sea scrolls

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    Hi guys, I've got the book "Jesus and the dead sea scrolls" by charlesworth. Seems fascinating. Has anyone read it yet?
  • 14:37 Uncultivated or barren ?

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    Peace I have found different translation of this verse and found the valley close to restricted temple where Abraham resided part of his progeny as uncultivated or barren or unproductive etc. What should be the correct one? Was the land barren so it was uncultivated? Or the land was not barren(had plants) but was not just cultivated by human for grains ? Edip-Layth 1437 "My Lord, I have resided part of my progeny in an uncultivated valley near your Restricted Sanctuary. My Lord, so that they may hold the contact prayer. So let the hearts of the people incline towards them. Provide them with fruits that they may appreciate." Muhammad Asad 1437 "O our Sustainer! Behold, I have settled some of my offspring in a valley in which there is no arable land,52 close to Thy sanctified Temple, so that, O our Sustainer, they might devote themselves to prayer cause Thou, therefore, people's hearts to incline towards them53 and grant them fruitful sustenance, so that they might have cause to be grateful. Yusuf Ali 1437 "O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Thy Sacred House; in order, O our Lord, that they may establish regular Prayer so fill the hearts of some among men with love towards them, and feed them with fruits so that they may give thanks. Shakir 1437 O our Lord! surely I have settled a part of my offspring in a valley unproductive of fruit near Thy Sacred House, our Lord! that they may keep up prayer; therefore make the hearts of some people yearn towards them and provide them with fruits; haply they may be grateful Shabbir Ahmed 1437 "Our Lord! I have settled some of my family in this barren valley without cultivation, by your Sacred House. Our Lord! They are here to establish the Divine System. Give them the nobility of character so that the hearts of people incline toward them. Provide for them with your blessings so that they may focus on their Mission and show gratitude (by sharing the bounties)." Peace Abdullha
  • Pharaos society and the truth on psychedelics.

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    Peace Be With You. I invite you all to read my blog-post, Pharaos Society. http//paradoxuncreated.com/Blog/wordpress/?p=8432 It should clear up any misconception on these things. Peace Be With You.
  • KISWAH FACTORY: Civilization Status Quo

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    Salam, Kiswah is the clothing that covers the "Kaabah" in present Mekkah. Only in 1930s, the factory or facility to produce Kiswah was initiated by Saudi Government. Later in 1972, the new modern factory was officiated by King Fahd Ibn Abd Saud. Prior to these years, Kiswah was imported from Yemen (South Civilization) and Egypt (Nile Civilization). This fact shows that present Mekkah is relatively teething and backward in term of industrialization achievement. In short present Mekkah is Disqualified from Ummul Qura Status Quo Disqualified from "Ancient" Status Quo Lack of Skill Artisan and Skill Manpower and tools, which related to 1 A relatively new city center. Kiswah factory/industry which provide key indicator of civilization status was not exist until 1930s. Any input appreciated. peace & regards.
  • Talk on Dead Sea Scrolls from University of California

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    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=92hyhBXLaWE&feature=related
  • Ancient history: how does it relate to the Qur'an

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    this is going to be an ongoing topic of research and i dont have time right now to introduce the information i want to, but please come back later for some of the things that have been discovered that may explain the more mysterious references in the Qur'an, including our past, creation, the flood and what the Jinn and angels really might be. in each case we will explore things in the framework of the Qur'an and how it validates past events and current mysteries, and how they might be interpreted in the light of greater understanding and more complete information. as always this should never detract from the teachings of the Qur'an, but merely offer a better understanding of some things that were very hard to convey with no frame of reference for people of Muhammad's day (pbuh) to compare them to.
  • two books on islamic history

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    http//avaxhome.ws/ebooks/564332.html http//avaxhome.ws/ebooks/0521875811.html