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I told you to read carefully but you did not
I didLaqad raa min ayati rabbihi alkubra
He certainly saw of the greatest signs of his Lord.
So what was that sign?Ma dalla sahibukum wama ghawa
Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled.If it was a dream, was there a need for Allah to Clarify for him.
He wasn't clarifying for him, he was clarifying for the people who didn't believe him.
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what have you put this here for? you want to discuss it?And it is a certain fact that he had seen him at the Demarcating Horizon [when he was at the Upper most horizon during his journey beyond limits of Universe.
Maybe you can find which word says Gabriel in that verse for me Raj, or the words that mentions any journey beyond the limits of the universe.
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I did
So what was that sign?He wasn't clarifying for him, he was clarifying for the people who didn't believe him.
what have you put this here for? you want to discuss it?Maybe you can find which word says Gabriel in that verse for me Raj, or the words that mentions any journey beyond the limits of the universe.
An oath is taken to emphasise a point. Oaths are mentioned earlier. The location is mentioned in the Aayat where he saw him only once descending, and that point is beyond the frontiers of our universe.
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It says 'it is certain he saw (him) in the clear horizon' it does not mention WHO he saw nor does it say 'the when he was at the Upper most horizon during his journey beyond limits of Universe-'
The pronoun of the object of the verb is specifically suffixed with the verb. It cannot be put in the brackets and has to be identified in the translation. From where he saw him has been mentioned by quoting the referremce of Ayat. That may be seen first.
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An oath is taken to emphasise a point. Oaths are mentioned earlier.
I know what an oath is and I know where Allah put them and because they are mentioned earlier does not mean you can 'correct' Allah's Words 'presuming' He may have missed putting them there! You are trying so hard to change Allah's words and it is clear to all reading and mostly to Allah Himself. Now where is Gabriel in the REAL verse and where is the journey of into the universe in the REAL verse, Mazhar? Its NOT there and YOU have ADDED it.
The location is mentioned in the Aayat where he saw him only once descending, and that point is beyond the frontiers of our universe.
Then maybe your understanding is of WHO was in the horizon and WHO it was doing the descending is at fault because this does NOT specify it was Muhammed does it. It says Muhammed SAW him when he was in the horizon, doesn't say which HE was in the horizon.
A horizon is NOT at a point beyond frontiers of our universe, it is the line of what you can SEE, the sun goes down 'over the horizon' which is the point we SEE.
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It says 'it is certain he saw (him) in the clear horizon' it does not mention WHO he saw nor does it say 'the when he was at the Upper most horizon during his journey beyond limits of Universe-'
The pronoun of the object of the verb is specifically suffixed with the verb. It cannot be put in the brackets and has to be identified in the translation.
the verb is to see, the pronoun 'him' which is the 'u', still doesn't tell me WHO he saw and you have added your idea who that was. Raahu (saw him) does not denote WHO he saw that needs you to be adding in any brackets. If Allah meant to say he saw Gabriel he is certainly capable of saying that and it is not for you to 'correct' Him.From where he saw him has been mentioned by quoting the referremce of Ayat. That may be seen first.
So Allah put His book in the wrong order now? Who are you to refer to another ayat to show where YOU think this referrence is from?
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It does not convey the meanings of two Arabic words. The Arabic noun is active participle. The one that demarcates the boundaries.
There are no boundaries in space. This is talking about the horizon which is what we see and that is a 'boundary' that 'actively' moves depending on how close we go towards it.
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the verb is to see, the pronoun 'him' which is the 'u', still doesn't tell me WHO he saw and you have added your idea who that was. Raahu (saw him) does not denote WHO he saw that needs you to be adding in any brackets. If Allah meant to say he saw Gabriel he is certainly capable of saying that and it is not for you to 'correct' Him.
In any written text, pronoun "He" and in Arabic the third person singular masculine pronoun "" is used and refers to a known, identified, definite person. It does not refer to unidentified person.
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Quote from Mazhar on Yesterday at 050150 PM
An oath is taken to emphasise a point. Oaths are mentioned earlier.
I know what an oath is and I know where Allah put them and because they are mentioned earlier does not mean you can 'correct' Allah's Words 'presuming' He may have missed putting them there! You are trying so hard to change Allah's words and it is clear to all reading and mostly to Allah Himself. Now where is Gabriel in the REAL verse and where is the journey of into the universe in the REAL verse, Mazhar? Its NOT there and YOU have ADDED it.Foolishness knows no boundaries.
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In any written text, pronoun "He" and in Arabic the third person singular masculine pronoun "" is used and refers to a known, identified, definite person. It does not refer to unidentified person.
But he is a known person, known by Allah and Muhammed and it is NOT in the verse where you put it. Mazhar it doesnt matter how much you turn on your heels dancing to prove this means anything when it is clearly NOT in the text. No amount of dancing will make anyone see that it SHOULD be there according to you when Allah did NOT put it there.
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Quote from Mazhar on Yesterday at 051349 PM
It does not convey the meanings of two Arabic words. The Arabic noun is active participle. The one that demarcates the boundaries.
There are no boundaries in space. This is talking about the horizon which is what we see and that is a 'boundary' that 'actively' moves depending on how close we go towards it.
Self assumed understanding of being knowledgable and knowing everythingh about universe with declaration of non existence of boundaries in space does not let see any thing said even in simple words.
The definite noun used in Arabic does not mean and refer to generally understood horizon i.e. the line in the farthest distance where the land or sea seems to meet the Sky. That does not demarcate. The noun-active participle used therein is wrongly translated by Yusuf as "clear".
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Quote from Mazhar on Yesterday at 050150 PM
An oath is taken to emphasise a point. Oaths are mentioned earlier.I know what an oath is and I know where Allah put them and because they are mentioned earlier does not mean you can 'correct' Allah's Words 'presuming' He may have missed putting them there! You are trying so hard to change Allah's words and it is clear to all reading and mostly to Allah Himself. Now where is Gabriel in the REAL verse and where is the journey of into the universe in the REAL verse, Mazhar? Its NOT there and YOU have ADDED it.
Foolishness knows no boundaries.
Yes I can see that, so can everyone else. Is that the best you can do? try thinking what you have done instead of just insulting, it might help
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But he is a known person, known by Allah and Muhammed and it is NOT in the verse where you put it. Mazhar it doesnt matter how much you turn on your heels dancing to prove this means anything when it is clearly NOT in the text. No amount of dancing will make anyone see that it SHOULD be there according to you when Allah did NOT put it there.
Stupidity has also no limits. Reading a text of English book if someone says he does not know who is "He" written therein he will be thought to be an idiot by another person since "he" is used only after having that person been introuced.
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Quote from Mazhar on Yesterday at 051349 PM
Self assumed understanding of being knowledgable and knowing everythingh about universe with declaration of non existence of boundaries in space does not let see any thing said even in simple words.
where have I said i know everything about the universe? I know it's infinite and it is expanding and there is more than we can SEE and I have not heard of any Lote trees up there yet.The definite noun used in Arabic does not mean and refer to generally understood horizon i.e. the line in the farthest distance where the land or sea seems to meet the Sky. That does not demarcate. The noun-active participle used therein is wrongly translated by Yusuf as "clear".
we are discussing horizon and the noun-active participle used therein may be wrongly translated as 'clear' according to the self-taught Arabic expert and self-taught English expert so lets try using 'evident' or 'manifest' or 'distinct' which would still have the same meaning as 'clear' it was something SEEN in the distance, not in space. Oddly enough, the majority of translators use 'clear', maybe its your misunderstanding of the meaning of 'clear' thats faulty and you have translated the same word as 'clear' in 4.144.  
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Stupidity has also no limits.
I fully agreeReading a text of English book if someone says he does not know who is "He" written therein he will be thought to be an idiot by another person since "he" is used only after having that person been introuced.
One would assume that this 'he' has been introduced to the one referring to 'he' in the text. In simple terms, Allah knew who 'he' was and it's Allah that is speaking is it not? and if someone reading a text in an English book said he did not know who is the 'he' written therein, one would deduce that the person was reading Shakespeare, but one would not necessarily be correct, would one.
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I fully agree
One would assume that this 'he' has been introduced to the one referring to 'he' in the text. In simple terms, Allah knew who 'he' was and it's Allah that is speaking is it not? and if someone reading a text in an English book said he did not know who is the 'he' written therein, one would deduce that the person was reading Shakespeare, but one would not necessarily be correct, would one.The Author of an Arabic Book uses definite pronoun "he" only for that person whom he has already introduced. And so is done by a writer of English book. Pronouns are used to avoid repetition of name or identity of that person in the ongoing narration.
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we are discussing horizon and the noun-active participle used therein may be wrongly translated as 'clear' according to the self-taught Arabic expert and self-taught English expert so lets try using 'evident' or 'manifest' or 'distinct' which would still have the same meaning as 'clear' it was something SEEN in the distance, not in space. Oddly enough, the majority of translators use 'clear', maybe its your misunderstanding of the meaning of 'clear' thats faulty and you have translated the same word as 'clear' in 4.144.
And "intellectuals" do not find difference between "clear" and "evident", "manifest" and the one who makes something distinct, manifest, distinguished, demarcated, when they wish to remain circling in their self drawn circle.
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The Author of an Arabic Book uses definite pronoun "he" only for that person whom he has already introduced. And so is done by a writer of English book. Pronouns are used to avoid repetition of name or identity of that person in the ongoing narration.
There is no mention in the ongoing narration of who 'he' was unless you mean the entire narration of which there are many 'he's' in it, so did you just search for which 'he' had been introduced previously with no apparent attachment to a verse? It could equally be the 'he' in 74.22 as that has nothing attached to tell us who 'he' is and has not been introduced and cannot be the blind man as you have translated as whoever 'he' was 'looked' around and scowled and said this is not but the word of a human being. Muhammed was not the one looking and scowling and being haughty as you have translated in that verse, it was the other 'he'
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Ayisha
So what was that sign?
Laqad raa min ayati rabbihi alkubra
Greatest Signs,. mentioned in Ayats, told you to read carefully.
He wasn't clarifying for him, he was clarifying for the people who didn't believe him.
Why? is it hard to believe in dream? dream is a dream! people see dreams every day, this was an event that took place in actual, that is why Allah had to clarify "Muhammad is not astray or misled".
It was no dream, Ayisha.
Mazhar
It stands proved that in Qur'aan it was not just a statement in air but was a fact that man can and will go into the space.
Surely that is the case, but they have no believe in it.
"How many signs in the heavens and earth they pass by, yet they turn (their faces) away from them." 12105
and notice in surah 51 Allah says
Waalssamai thati alhubuki
By the heaven containing pathways
The earlier generations of the Muslims did not have the level of knowledge to appreciate these verses. We can now appreciate such Quran phrases as the sky full of path, and the signs in the heavens as the facts of space which mankind has recently discovered. Furthermore, the Quran phrases How many signs in the heaven they pass by can best be explained in terms of the recent travels of men into space. Dr. Mazhar Kazi