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Converting Iraqi Muslims to Christianity

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    Bigmo
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    You make it seem like the issue of Jesus divinity is a little thing. That is a big deal, a huge deal, a massive deal. O0

    Its a big deal cause you make it so. It ain't a big deal to me. Anyways Muslims believe Muhamad has divine authority. The reason why they don't say Muhammad was divine is to transfer that authority to the ruler. However they gave him absolute divine authority. He has the authority to intriduce legislations like the Koran does, he can even abrogate the Koran and even contradict it. I fail to see why you see Muslim converting to Christianity as a bad deal.

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      Jafar
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      You can think of it as stupid and as ridiculous as you like. But similar no? It's like saying that an apple and an orange are exactly the same because they are both round, when we both know that they taste completely different.

      Yes it's similar as Rotten Apple and Rotten Orange are similarly Rotten...
      And when they're rotten they taste pretty much the same..

      Anyway it seems that you are the kind of person who is incapable of having a polite debate and just enjoy aggravating the person you are talking to, which is very immature. I used to enjoy this style of debating when I was in my early 20s, but at 31 no. Either you tell me your point of view without being offensive or let's not talk at all. We are all adults here and there is no need for that kind of behavior.

      Hello??
      Are you being 'insulted' because I said "both of THEM are stupid and ridiculous?"
      I didn't say "YOU".. I said "THEM"..
      Do you feel you're among THEM?
      If you're then I apologize...

      Salam / Peace

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        Jafar
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        You make it seem like the issue of Jesus divinity is a little thing. That is a big deal, a huge deal, a massive deal. O0

        Bro..

        1. Have you met Jesus? the answer is obviously no.. and so does billions of other people who lives among us today..
        2. Can you explain what's your understanding of "divine"?

        I have asked the question #2 to many xtians.. and mostly the answers that I got are similar to
        "I dunno... the priests/church said so..... so I said yeah.. he's divine... whatever that mean"..

        Salam / Peace

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          Confused
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          Its a big deal cause you make it so. It ain't a big deal to me. Anyways Muslims believe Muhamad has divine authority. The reason why they don't say Muhammad was divine is to transfer that authority to the ruler. However they gave him absolute divine authority. He has the authority to intriduce legislations like the Koran does, he can even abrogate the Koran and even contradict it. I fail to see why you see Muslim converting to Christianity as a bad deal.

          Muslims give Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) insane powers. However, they do not think of him as a God or the son of God. Big difference )

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            Bigmo
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            Muslims give Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) insane powers. However, they do not think of him as a God or the son of God. Big difference

            Big difference? Could you explain that to us?

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              justamuslim
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              when there is a place of worship where love, forgiveness by 'God' is preached and you can come as you are but better if you come in your finest vs another place of worship where women enter from a side door or not at all where you worship this 'angry' God that you have to wash a certain way certain number of times and then have to pray a certain way, certain number of times. and if you don't then you are not a good practicing believer.

              ok - if i had to choose, i would choose church over mosque. man created christianity over man created islam. sad that made created religions than God's religion is spreading may it be 'christianity' or 'islam'.

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                Bigmo
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                when there is a place of worship where love, forgiveness by 'God' is preached and you can come as you are but better if you come in your finest vs another place of worship where women enter from a side door or not at all where you worship this 'angry' God that you have to wash a certain way certain number of times and then have to pray a certain way, certain number of times. and if you don't then you are not a good practicing believer.

                ok - if i had to choose, i would choose church over mosque. man created christianity over man created islam. sad that made created religions than God's religion is spreading may it be 'christianity' or 'islam'.

                I like that answer. Going to a mosque for any of us could be dangerous.

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                  farida
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                  I like that answer. Going to a mosque for any of us could be dangerous.

                  9108 Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.

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                    farida
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                    ok - if i had to choose, i would choose church over mosque. man created christianity over man created islam. sad that made created religions than God's religion is spreading may it be 'christianity' or 'islam'.

                    Why should it matter if there is a side entrance for women or washing rituals, when the Quran has given us clear guidance to search for a right mosque built on piety
                    9108 Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.

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                      Bigmo
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                      Why should it matter if there is a side entrance for women or washing rituals, when the Quran has given us clear guidance to search for a right mosque built on piety
                      9108 Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.

                      It matters to most Muslims just like praying 4 rika' for asr prayers matter. They are not that flexible and between Muslims and us is a luge wall. Its hard having a religious debate with Muslims, much harder than Christians.

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                        justamuslim
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                        Why should it matter if there is a side entrance for women or washing rituals, when the Quran has given us clear guidance to search for a right mosque built on piety
                        9108 Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.

                        is there a mosque where the foundation is laid from the Koran? if so where? i would like to attend that mosque.

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                          Jafar
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                          is there a mosque where the foundation is laid from the Koran? if so where? i would like to attend that mosque.

                          By then you'll be stepping your feet on the Koran...
                          Which many sectarians see that as an act of 'contempt', given that Koran is holy...
                          rotfl rotfl

                          Salam / Peace

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                            Mr_Q
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                            is there a mosque where the foundation is laid from the Koran? if so where? i would like to attend that mosque.

                            You are welcome to join me and one other brother in faith, who use my living room as a mosque on Fridays. That's as close as we can get to what you seek above.

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                              Bigmo
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                              You are welcome to join me and one other brother in faith, who use my living room as a mosque on Fridays. That's as close as we can get to what you seek above. )

                              peace

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                                farida
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                                is there a mosque where the foundation is laid from the Koran? if so where? i would like to attend that mosque.

                                I know one such mosque so do bit of searching or else make your homes into mosque.
                                Salaam

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                                  farida
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                                  Its hard having a religious debate with Muslims, much harder than Christians.

                                  What about here on free-mind is it easier here '(

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                                    khan25
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                                    but there is country like iran where people are leaving islam with any missionary assistance.
                                    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_beTQCH0qE
                                    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAIxMoY0I60

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                                      farida
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                                      They are not that flexible and between Muslims and us is a luge wall.

                                      Us ???
                                      -[

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                                        Bigmo
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                                        What about here on free-mind is it easier here '(

                                        Weren't you once defending the Taliban? Whats the issue with you?

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                                          farida
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                                          Weren't you once defending the Taliban? Whats the issue with you?

                                          Not once but always I would defend those who need to be defended. In contrast you sound eerily similar to the heartless warmongers in Pentagon... "American administrations have stressed that the U.S. is at war with terrorists who have a distorted view of the religion"
                                          http//www.hurriyetdailynews.com/pentagon-halts-class-teaching-anti-islam-material-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=19331&NewsCatID=358
                                          hmm
                                          In fact the ongoing wars are wars OF terror against those who refuse to submit to the Empire. So the real aim was not to throw Saddam Hussian out and establish democracy, but to put the 'right' religion in dominance in Iraq. bravo

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