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I checked them, but I do not have them with me now. On the other hand I trust the oen I have with me. At least as far as that goes. It is a good one.
Hans Wher, A dictionnary of Modern written Arabic Edited by J. Milton Cowan.
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najl plural anjaal scion, son; progeny, issueThe basic meaning of the root seems to be to beget...
Salaam
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I checked them, but I do not have them with me now. On the other hand I trust the oen I have with me. At least as far as that goes. It is a good one.
Hans Wher, A dictionnary of Modern written Arabic Edited by J. Milton Cowan.
from n-j-l
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najl plural anjaal scion, son; progeny, issueThe basic meaning of the root seems to be to beget...
Salaam
Bold You mean this?
http//ejtaal.net/aa/img/hw4/11/hw4-1122.png
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I checked them, but I do not have them with me now. On the other hand I trust the oen I have with me. At least as far as that goes. It is a good one.
Hans Wher, A dictionnary of Modern written Arabic Edited by J. Milton Cowan.
from n-j-l
ALSO
najl plural anjaal scion, son; progeny, issueThe basic meaning of the root seems to be to beget...
Salaam
Bold Modern written Arabic? So it's not classical arabic?
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That is the name of the dictionnary, in fact it is whita comprehensive, generally speaking a very good dictionnary, not perfect but good. That is precisely de reason why it was taken from german into english.
Also, since Arabic has been studied traditionally from the point of view of a "classical humaniities language" calling it modern does not mean that it does away with classical, but rather that it includes also the modern. The modern student or professional needs to know that. not get a dictionnary where there is not even a "telephone".Also there was a pocket edition which is quite handy if you travel. You may shorten your "seeing" life, but at least you have a dictionnary.
wow confusedSalaam
Salaam
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also, means Son. This may be a hint
Yes sure. I am not surprised if the meaning of the gospel relates to the lineage.
They had been arguing for centuries, about the Jesus Genealogy. Matthew 11-16 and Luke 323-38 shows different information, there can be no other conclusion other than Matthew and Luke fabricated names to make up the gap.
Luke 1
30 And the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God.
31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus.
32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David,Some of them said that Luke's genealogy carries through Mary. The problem is that Mary was from the tribe of Levi, while David was from the tribe of Judah. Mary was related to Elizabeth who was a daughter of Aron. Aron was a Levitical priest and brother of Moses. Tribes did not intermarry.
Luke 1
5 In the days of Herod, king of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, of the division of Abijah; and he had a wife of the daughters of Aron, and her name was Elizabeth.Luke 1
36 And behold, your kinswoman Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son; and this is the sixth month with her who was called barrenAnd then Paul came to "solve" the problem, by suggesting that speculate over genealogies is a stupid waste of time.
1 Tim. 1
1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope,
2 To Timothy, my true child in the faith Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
3 As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at Ephesus that you may charge certain persons not to teach any different doctrine,
4 Nor to occupy themselves with myths and endless genealogies which promote speculations rather than the divine training that is in faith;Titus 3
9 But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels over the law, for they are unprofitable and futile.Haha D D
And Quran said,
337 So her Lord accepted her a good acceptance, and made her grow into a good growth, and charged Zachariah with her. Every time Zachariah entered upon her in the temple enclosure, he found provisions with her. He said "O Mary, from where did you get this?" She said "It is from God, for God provides for whom He wishes without reckoning."
344 This is from the news of the unseen that We inspire to you. You were not with them when they cast their pens as to which one of them will be charged with Mary; you were not with them when they disputed.
Yup, we were not with them, Luke and Matthew, when they cast their pens, argued each other. )
Peace
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verse 41 the earth is created with its proportions and stabilizers while the heaven is still smoke, then Allah turns the smoke into seven heavens, with the lamps into the first heaven
in verse 79, Allah raises the height of the heaven and makes it perfect, and after that he spreads the earth and fixes firmly the mountains
let me put this way..
Heaven then earth
7927 Are you a more powerful creation than the heaven which He built?
7928 He raised its height, and perfected it.==> Day 2
7929 And He covered its night and brought out its morning. ==> Day 4
7930 And the land after that He spread out. ==> Day 3
7931 He brought forth from it its water and pasture. ==> Day 3
7932 And the mountains He fixed firmly.Earth then heaven
419 Say "You are rejecting the One who has created the earth in two days, and you set up equals with Him. That is the Lord of the worlds." ==> Day 1 + 2
4110 And He placed in it stabilizers from above it, and He blessed it and established its provisions in proportion in four days, to satisfy those who ask. ==> Day 3, 4, 5, 6
4111 Then He settled to the heaven, while it was still smoke, and He said to it, and to the earth "Come willingly or unwillingly." They said "We come willingly." ==> Day 1 or 2
4112 Thus, He then made them into seven heavens in two days, and He inspired to every heaven its affair. And We adorned the lowest heaven with lamps, and for protection. Such is the design of the Noble, the Knowledgeable. ==> Day 2 + 4peace
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let me put this way..
Heaven then earth
7927 Are you a more powerful creation than the heaven which He built?
7928 He raised its height, and perfected it.==> Day 2
7929 And He covered its night and brought out its morning. ==> Day 4
7930 And the land after that He spread out. ==> Day 3
7931 He brought forth from it its water and pasture. ==> Day 3
7932 And the mountains He fixed firmly.Earth then heaven
419 Say "You are rejecting the One who has created the earth in two days, and you set up equals with Him. That is the Lord of the worlds." ==> Day 1 + 2
4110 And He placed in it stabilizers from above it, and He blessed it and established its provisions in proportion in four days, to satisfy those who ask. ==> Day 3, 4, 5, 6
4111 Then He settled to the heaven, while it was still smoke, and He said to it, and to the earth "Come willingly or unwillingly." They said "We come willingly." ==> Day 1 or 2
4112 Thus, He then made them into seven heavens in two days, and He inspired to every heaven its affair. And We adorned the lowest heaven with lamps, and for protection. Such is the design of the Noble, the Knowledgeable. ==> Day 2 + 4peace
Then
Synonyms after that, next, afterward (i.e. day 6 is false)Again use 4111 thumma/furthermore...
Furthermore
Synonyms moreover, further, also, additionally, likewise...peace
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Then
Synonyms after that, next, afterward (i.e. day 6 is false)Again use 4111 thumma/furthermore...
Furthermore
Synonyms moreover, further, also, additionally, likewise...peace
Salaam,
thanks a lot for your information brother Noon Waalqalami.@Ju5
Please be informed.Peace
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THUMMA / FURTHERMORE how can you say that it doesn't involve an order? It means a succession with a delay between the events, or to repeat something (word or phrase) like "and again"(example 228, God gives life, he ends it, then again he gives life back. As for the succession, it is delayed and the second event appears in consequence of the first, hence= then, consequently, thus.. in fact it is what arabic teachers teach right? Are you going to quote old poems which can be found on google only on articles where someone tells us that thumma doesn't involve an order( while arabs say otherwise)? Very fishy isn't it?
https//translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=ar&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.almaany.com%2Far%2Fdict%2Far-ar%2F%D8%AB%D9%85%2F&anno=2
https//ultimatearabic.com/conjunctions/ (2. 3.)
26193 It was sent down with the trusted Spirit.
26194 Upon your heart, so that you would be of the warners.
26195 In a clear Arabic tongue.PS i am still waiting for the injil that christians had during the time of the prophet. What is this Injil ? Where is it? We d have still all the fake gospels but not the original one? the one people had when the qur'an was revealed? It went from 0 to 6th century then disappeared?
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Peace Ju5.
I see no order also, why?
Because the verse that you think is putting the order earth then heaven is saying to both heaven and earth to come willingly.
If there was an order then earth would have already existed!!!GOD is not putting an order of what was created first. GOD is emphasising the importance of putting life only on earth for our life purpose.
God bless you.
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THUMMA / FURTHERMORE how can you say that it doesn't involve an order?
no order involved (411) thumma can be used to discuss any point in time same topic.
PS i am still waiting for the injil that christians had during the time of the prophet. What is this Injil ? Where is it?
perhaps you are not reading my prior posts or cannot comprehend?
perhaps you think what was given/taught him was future hearsay's about him according to "someone" in the future?
348 and teacheth him the book and the wisdom and the taurat and the injeel
546 and gave we him the injeel
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thumma/moreover, see example below, it?s not always ?then? i.e. meaning order.
cannot start sentence with "then/afterward" that's senseless -- then/after, what?
http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=6&verse=154
6154 thumma/furthermore gave we of moses the book...
now forced to use thumma as moreover/furthermore/likewise, additionally, etc.
peace
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The injeel is what 3isa ibnu Maryam taught and which is citeed in the Qur'an, the injeel is that from the mud from which are made human beings he molded birds who could fly, that he gave life to the dead and hearing and sight to the deaf and blind. This I understand as mataphores for spiritual awakening, seeing and hearing and the good news of a messenger to come by the name of Ahmad, like in 61.6
And remember, 'isa ibnu Maryam, said "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!" (6)
There you have the injil.
Salaam
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The injeel is what 3isa ibnu Maryam taught and which is citeed in the Qur'an, the injeel is that from the mud from which are made human beings he molded birds who could fly, that he gave life to the dead and hearing and sight to the deaf and blind. This I understand as mataphores for spiritual awakening, seeing and hearing and the good news of a messenger to come by the name of Ahmad, like in 61.6
And remember, 'isa ibnu Maryam, said "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!" (6)
There you have the injil.
Salaam
Gospel of Barnabas
He gave life to the dead,
Chap 193
...Then Jesus lifted up his hands to heaven, and said 'Lord God of Abraham, God of Ishmael and Isaac, God of our fathers, have mercy upon the affliction of these women, and give glory to thy holy name.' And when every one had answered 'Amen,' Jesus said with a loud voice
'Lazarus, come forth!'
Whereupon he that was dead arose; and Jesus said to his disciples 'Loose him.' For he was bound in the grave-clothes with the napkin over his face, even as our fathers were accustomed to bury .
Blind Man Testimony
Chap 156
He answered 'A man made clay, spitting on the ground, and this clay he placed upon mine eyes and said to me "Go and wash thee in the pool of Siloam." I went and washed, and now I see blessed be the God of Israel!'
Mohammed
Chap 220
Jesus answered 'Believe me, Barnabas, that every sin, however small it be, God punisheth with great punishment, seeing that God is offended at sin. Wherefore, since my mother and my faithful disciples that were with me loved me a little with earthly love, the righteous God hath willed to punish this love with the present grief, in order that it may not be punished in the flames of Hell. And though I have been innocent in the world, since men have called me "God," and "Son of God," God, in order that I be not mocked of the demons on the day of judgment, hath willed that I be mocked of men in this world by the death of Judas, making all men to believe that I died upon the cross. And this mocking shall continue until the advent of Mohammed, the messenger of God, who, when he shall come, shall reveal this deception to those who believe in God's law.'
Then we have the injeel.
I believe in Gospel of Barnabas more than any other gospels, since most of its story confirmed in Quran. But still we need Al Furqan to double check.
Salaam
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The virgin was surrounded by a light exceeding bright, and brought forth her son without pain (barnabas gospel chap 3)
1923 (qur'an) Then the birth pains came to her, by the trunk of a palm tree. She said "I wish I had died before this, and became totally forgotten!"
The Gospel of Barnabas is a book depicting the life of Jesus, which claims to be by the biblical Barnabas who in this work is one of the twelve apostles. Two manuscripts are known to have existed, both dated to the late 16th or early 17th centuries, with one written in Italian and the other in Spanish. (wikipedia)
tlihawa research a little bit before posting. I don't ask people to know everything, but a little effort atleast please.
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The injeel is what 3isa ibnu Maryam taught and which is citeed in the Qur'an, the injeel is that from the mud from which are made human beings he molded birds who could fly, that he gave life to the dead and hearing and sight to the deaf and blind. This I understand as mataphores for spiritual awakening, seeing and hearing and the good news of a messenger to come by the name of Ahmad, like in 61.6
Salaam
The molding of the birds on which 3isa blows, the seeing of the blind and the hearing of the deaf, are there to describe the awakening of spiritual life, and the opening of the vision and the hearing to the divine, I thought it was obvious that there stopped the metaphore particularly since i quoted underneath the aya where it is the question of the rasul to come which is separate from the other things and also obviously does not need of any metaphore.
Salaam
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Gospel of Barnabas
He gave life to the dead,
Chap 193
...Then Jesus lifted up his hands to heaven, and said 'Lord God of Abraham, God of Ishmael and Isaac, God of our fathers, have mercy upon the affliction of these women, and give glory to thy holy name.' And when every one had answered 'Amen,' Jesus said with a loud voice
'Lazarus, come forth!'
Whereupon he that was dead arose; and Jesus said to his disciples 'Loose him.' For he was bound in the grave-clothes with the napkin over his face, even as our fathers were accustomed to bury .
Blind Man Testimony
Chap 156
He answered 'A man made clay, spitting on the ground, and this clay he placed upon mine eyes and said to me "Go and wash thee in the pool of Siloam." I went and washed, and now I see blessed be the God of Israel!'
Mohammed
Chap 220
Jesus answered 'Believe me, Barnabas, that every sin, however small it be, God punisheth with great punishment, seeing that God is offended at sin. Wherefore, since my mother and my faithful disciples that were with me loved me a little with earthly love, the righteous God hath willed to punish this love with the present grief, in order that it may not be punished in the flames of Hell. And though I have been innocent in the world, since men have called me "God," and "Son of God," God, in order that I be not mocked of the demons on the day of judgment, hath willed that I be mocked of men in this world by the death of Judas, making all men to believe that I died upon the cross. And this mocking shall continue until the advent of Mohammed, the messenger of God, who, when he shall come, shall reveal this deception to those who believe in God's law.'
Then we have the injeel.
I believe in Gospel of Barnabas more than any other gospels, since most of its story confirmed in Quran. But still we need Al Furqan to double check.
Salaam
Manu people recordedly hve been unburied after days because they were alive. It is knows as catalepsy.
Other than that if you meet somebody you thought dead or anybody or the whole world thought was dead, and after that he is seen alive, that is proof that he was not dead. As simple as that.
Also many people have cured infirmities or diseases. Nothing new there. And many diseases and infirmities have dissapeared by themselves. Cancer for instance.
But the mission of a prophet or messenger is not tu cure physical diseases but to cure or bring new birth in the spiritual moral plane.
Muhammad never cured, in the Qur'an at least, nor molded mud birds...
Salaam
