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    unknownuser
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    Thanks sis,

    one more question please

    can we refer to one human being in the verse and in general.

    And also can we refer to God not in any verse ofcourse but in general.

    Peace, Hamsa

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      Samia
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      To my understanding, it does not refer to any number of people, nor to one person or entity. I think the emphasis is on quality rather than quantity.

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        Kashif
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        I am working on a Arabic Nouns mapping chart, which I will share you with you guys. Please note this is the work in progress and I planned to add examples/explanation for each category, Inshallah. Also, any feedback at this point would be very valuable for me.

        Enjoy.

        http//i189.photobucket.com/albums/z29/shazaduh/ArabicNounflowchart.jpg

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          unknownuser
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          To my understanding, it does not refer to any number of people, nor to one person or entity. I think the emphasis is on quality rather than quantity.

          Peace sis Samia,

          Although I couldn't really get it but I also do not feel asking again and again, I know it involves much study and explanation. But anyways thanks for your time. I am blessed with some bros and sis on this forum and hopefully will learn a lot from all of you inshaAllah.

          Peace, Hamsa

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            Samia
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            Salaam Kashif

            Just a few typos
            written as
            (Or perhaps you do not have this letter on your keyboard? I noticed its absence also in your previous message in the word , written as ) .
            Also and I think , written as and respectively.

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              Kashif
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              Thank you sister Samia pointing out those typos, you are right I could not find Wow(with hamza on top) on my windows arabic keyboard. but I can definitely fixed them with other arabic editor I am developing. Inshallah I will fix those errors and update them.

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                lunarious
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                Fantastic!
                You don't understand what i exactly mean, but you keep on with.

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                  Samia
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                  Thank you sister Samia pointing out those typos, you are right I could not find Wow(with hamza on top) on my windows arabic keyboard. but I can definitely fixed them with other arabic editor I am developing. Inshallah I will fix those errors and update them.

                  Try the key "c".

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                    nadeem
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                    Peace,

                    Great to see this thread being nourished by learned members! ;D

                    I've done some exercises in Arabic, and I'd appreciate some feedback.

                    Feel free to butcher me! peace

                    http//www.reflekterselv.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1443.0;attach=542

                    Nadeem

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                      Kashif
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                      I found following book for Arabic grammar a valuable resource.

                      Arabic for English Speaking students
                      by Muhammad Addul-Rauf PHD

                      This book provides "get to the point" Arabic grammar details with good examples.

                      http//www.amazon.com/English-Speaking-Students-Muhammad-Abdul-Rauf/dp/1881963004/ref=sr_11_1/002-5761012-1813662?ie=UTF8&qid=1179091195&sr=11-1

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                        Samia
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                        Salaam Nadeem

                        Well done!

                        Some corrections
                        P 1
                        11. you (2 m &f)

                        P 3
                        The woman went
                        She went

                        P 4 not (diptote)
                        8. Translation The wife of Noah and the wife of Lot were for two pious servants among God's servants (pious is dual and is indefinite because it's an adjective of an indefinite noun which is two servants).

                        P 5
                        Same as P 3.

                        P 6 Either the English sentence be "The pious women" or the Arabic one be " ". If it is in the plural, then not .

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                          unknownuser
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                          Salaam sis Samia,

                          Just a question

                          What is the difference between kill 249, 284 and 4025. In 249,284 it is mentioned that Pharaoh used to kill males of Israelites (I think it refer to when Moses was born or before he became prophet ) and in 4025 it mentions when Moses went to Pharaoh with truth the Pharaoh's people said Kill (Qatala is used here) those males who believe in Moses. I am just curious why the two different words are used for the same act i mean to kill. Is there any difference in the two words.

                          Thanks, Hamsa

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                            Samia
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                            Salaam sis Samia,

                            Just a question

                            What is the difference between kill 249, 284 and 4025. In 249,284 it is mentioned that Pharaoh used to kill males of Israelites (I think it refer to when Moses was born or before he became prophet ) and in 4025 it mentions when Moses went to Pharaoh with truth the Pharaoh's people said Kill (Qatala is used here) those males who believe in Moses. I am just curious why the two different words are used for the same act i mean to kill. Is there any difference in the two words.

                            Thanks, Hamsa

                            Salaam Hamsa

                            Sorry for the belated reply!

                            means to slaughter, specifically...but means to kill by any other means, generally.

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                              nadeem
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                              Peace,

                              Thanks Samia!

                              I've written a little dialog in Arabic. Nothing much, but something still... -)

                              Here it goes

                              . .

                              In my head, this translates to

                              They said "You rejected the signs of god".
                              Then he said "I'm but a believer in the deen of god".
                              Then they said "We reject your words, and you did not believe in god".
                              Then he said " That is not true, and my provider is one. You testify, and I testify, but he is the witness and better than us".

                              How did I do?

                              Nadeem

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                                Samia
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                                Salaam Nadeem

                                The important thing is I understood it...hmmm until the last line. I will tell you why after I correct it

                                1. Unlike the English verb "to reject", the Arabic verb "kafara" takes a preposition "bi"

                                2. When the "bi" prefixes the definite article "", do not get rid of the "alif". I know it won't be pronounced, but it should not go away either.

                                3. A pronoun following a preposition or a verb (i.e in the genetive or the accusative state) will be suffixed to them and connected to them (i the preceding letter permits).

                                \ .

                                I read as , which means to beg (like in beggar). That's why at first I did not understand.

                                That's a good trial. Your errors are expected.

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                                  nadeem
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                                  Peace,

                                  Thanks for the correction, Samia.

                                  Just a quick one this time

                                  Is it pronounced Maa sajadnaa linsaanin or Maa sajadnaa li insaanin?

                                  Nadeem

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                                    nadeem
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                                    Peace,

                                    In my book it says translate "This child wrote his name in this book. Is he your child?".

                                    My take on it

                                    ? .

                                    But the key says

                                    ? .

                                    Any one feel like they know what's going on? I certainly don't.

                                    Nadeem

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                                      Samia
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                                      Peace,

                                      Thanks for the correction, Samia.

                                      Just a quick one this time

                                      Is it pronounced Maa sajadnaa linsaanin or Maa sajadnaa li insaanin?

                                      Nadeem

                                      maa sajadnaa li 'insaanin

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                                        Samia
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                                        Peace,

                                        In my book it says translate "This child wrote his name in this book. Is he your child?".

                                        My take on it

                                        ? .

                                        But the key says

                                        ? .

                                        Any one feel like they know what's going on? I certainly don't.

                                        Nadeem

                                        Both sentences are missing each a component

                                        or

                                        Yours is missing the definite article in (&#1583, and the other is missing ( ).
                                        Also, there shouldn't be a space between the alif and "huwa" ( ) not ( ).

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                                          nadeem
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                                          Thanks sis for both replies. Why must walad have a definite article?

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