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  • "waseela"

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    Peace Alen. Here is the verse- O you prophet, if the believing women come to make allegiance to you that they will not set up anything beside God, nor steal, nor commit adultery, nor kill their unborn children, nor fabricate any falsehood, nor disobey you in any matter which is righteous, then you shall accept their allegiance, and ask God to forgive them. God is Forgiver, Merciful.
  • you need to see this!!!

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    Salam. I know, but we really need to verify everything and listen to The God when HE tell sus that we must only fear Him, remember? Always verify everything and fear only The God. Okay, how do we fight these bad guys? Peace. Peace By not playing along to their game. You have no real influence on the rules, and only people in the deepest of denial still think that they have. The rest have realised and dont give a shit, they are lost, like cattle in the wilderness. All this talk about people being able to see the things is just talk when we actively feed the system by participating in it. The politics will be whatever is planned far, far, and furhter away from anywhere youre eveer going to get anywhere near, am i making myself clear here? You can join all the parties that you will, and all your helping is the bad boys even tho you might be against them. Youre playing their game arent you? and the house always win, never forget that. I know it sounds like much. But give up your job, your education, your dreams in relation to their world. Learn how to make fire, you may think you know, but really...you dont know. Learn how to hunt, and prepare for rough times ahead. Because you will be part of this freely, or youre one of the terrorists. We are not there yet, but we are now approaching rapidly. More rapid than ever before. The microchip satelite tracking device, is no longer science fiction talk of tommorow. PEOPLE ARE NOW GETTING THEM! It may not be where you live....yet But did coca cola find its way to you? did over consumerism? did SUV's? Did hollywood find its way to you? You can be damn sure the chip will find you too, if you dont stop playing the game. And at the core of this is the rile of 2 masters. Either you are are with Bush and everything people like him stands for (politicians, and zombified cattle people) or you are against it. Be against it, and be with God. There are no, a little this and a little that. Bush spoke the truth back then. You are in support of it all, the whole package, the system, or you are against it, and if youre a gainst it. you just dont support it, and start making a living in other ways. Either your love to God makes you chose better, or your fear of man and loss of comfort will keep you in the other camp, and all your doing then is talking too much.
  • BEWARE OF VERSE 40 - CHAPTER 54

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    Salaam All, Check out the below post http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=6918.msg105307#msg105307 And, on page 11 of below post http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=4790.msg105297#msg105297 And, on page 5 of the below post http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=5122.60 And, the below post http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=6888.0 And, on pages 38 and 39 of the below post http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=1914.570 BEWARE WHEN YOU GET A PM (PERSONAL MESSAGE)! BEWARE! Mohamed Peace, I don't normally post here because of time constraint (I don't have my own PC). But this "movement" by Aladdin is quite interesting. First of all, missionaries are fine as long as they don't use "dirty" ways (ie. helping someone financially only if s/he converts). Missionaries are religious people who believe that they're doing good by "helping" others. For example, if I truly believe that pizzas will give you cancer, I would actually go to pizza huts or whatever and warn the people. I will try to "convert" them to non-pizza eater. I would feel great if I managed to "convert" them because for me, it would feel as if I've saved them. My point is missionaries are not the devils. They're far from it. I'm saying this because I some of my friends are actually (christian) missionaries. I'm also trying to say that Aladdin believe those posts above are bad and "missionary-like", therefore he has an urge to warn you guys. Kudos to you mate! It's not an easy thing to do. I live in New Zealand, it's a very diverse place. Therefore I believe in freedom of faith. There's no compulsion in religion, because only God can judge us. God knows best what's best for us. Humans only think they know what's best for them. Those posts above are fine by me, because it shows diversity of opinions, and it's all good. Hence why IMO Afghanistan under Taliban was hell on earth because diversity was banned. Have a good one! O0 Peace
  • Gamal al-Banna Promotes Islamic Reform

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    See http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=5391.0
  • THE WAR ON ISLAM ?The other side of the story.

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    Peace From the same author, Emotional Torture, Untamed Violence and Intellectual Terrorism By Dr. Aslam Abdullah, February 6, 2006 What was done first by the Danish and later by Norwegian, French, German and many other European newspapers in publishing cartoons depicting Prophet Muhammad is nothing less than emotional torture, verbal violence and intellectual terrorism. In the name of freedom of speech, the most sophisticated professional class of Europe succumbed to the century old hatred against Islam and Muslims. Europeans and Americans are often taught that freedom of speech ends where the sensitivities of people begin. Seemingly, the teachers have forgotten the lesson themselves. Making fun of a religion is an exercise in emotional torture. Showing solidarity with those who promote such kind of torture is untamed violence and hurting innocent people all over the world is intellectual terrorism. But what is new in this? Many European and American scholars, academics and intellectuals, as well as public officials have remained engaged from the seventh century onwards in anti-Islam, anti-Muslim and anti-Prophet Muhammad campaigns. They have refused to show civility in dealing with issues pertaining to the second largest religious community in the world. After all, it was Martin Luther, the great Christian reformer to whom almost every Christian Protestant group owes its origin, who produced the worst writings against Islam and Prophet Muhammad. Those who are unable to overcome their hatred and ignorance of Islam will not stop promoting this agenda. To expect otherwise from such crusaders would be futile. However, what was surprising was the silence of Christian and Jewish community and religious leaders on this issue. Through their interfaith dialogue with Muslims they must have realized the sanctity and sacredness Muslims attach to their religious values. They should have been the ones demanding ending of hostilities against Islam and Muslims. Yet only a few spoke after Muslims appealed to their rational mind. Even more disturbing was the response of Muslims. Boycotting Danish products, burning down the embassies of European countries and threatening Danes working in the Gulf were measures that do not suit a community whose leader is described in the divine scriptures as a mercy to humankind. Immediately, after the battle of Badr, Omar bin al Khattab, one of the most celebrated companions of Prophet sought the permission of the state to punish Suhail bin Amr, a prisoner of war who had engaged in anti-Prophet Muhammad propaganda in Makkah. Suhail was known for his abusive language and insulting attitude towards the Prophet. Prophet Muhammad, as the ruler of the newly formed Islamic State, strictly prohibited his companions to punish or torture any prisoner of war on account of their past hostilities. He admonished Omar bin al-Khattab for seeking retribution. After all, the Prophet had endured all possible humiliations at the hands of the elites of Makkah and their supporters without asking any of his supporters to silence his opponents. Islam recognizes dissent to its teachings and appeals to its adherents to deal with it in a civil manner. Islam promotes the idea that a polite response and a decent rebuttal are powerful enough to change the worst enemy into a friend. Islam does not seek revenge on those who indulge in anti-Islam, anti-God, or anti-Prophet abuses. Furthermore, Islam prohibits the use of pressure and intimidation for changing the hearts of people. Islam believes that coercion is incapable of bringing a change in the attitude of people. Intimidation might make others change their immediate reaction to Islam, but it is ultimately futile because every individual has to make a conscious decision about his or her relations with God and His creation. The provocation of Danish and other European newspapers was foolish and full with hatred. There is no need for such provocation in a world that is fast becoming cosmopolitan in all its dimensions. Freedom of speech cannot be used as an excuse to hurt or insult others. Moreover, there exists double standards in this matter among most European and American journalists working for big media corporations. None of these advocates of freedom of speech would dare write against the foul practices of multinational or mega-corporations that often provide bread and butter to most working journalists. None of them would dare to expose the dirty trade practices, excessive exploitation and other violation of human rights of people working in such corporations. None of them would even touch the so-called issue of national security, even if the position of the power elite is against national interests. A case in point is the war in Iraq. Not many European or American journalists working for big corporation-controlled media have questioned the rationale behind going to war in Iraq. None of them have held accountable their leaders for costly mistakes. In fact, their anti-Islamic writings betray their loyalty to the power elites who are keen in promoting a hateful agenda against Muslims. Muslims ought to be cognizant of these facts. Our response to such insults and humiliation should be based on the divine teachings and the lifestyle of our Prophet. We must not give in to our emotions. We could have asked the Danish and other newspapers to allow us to introduce our Prophet to their audience the way we see him. We should have engaged the Danes and others in a meaningful dialogue and discussion on the true nature of our faith and the true personality of our Prophet. We should have risen above our emotions to use this moment to educate others about us in a serious manner. It was the responsibility of our religious and intellectual leaders to direct our masses in developing a meaningful response to incidents of hate and racial bigotry. No doubt, each of us feel hurt when we see an offensive depiction of our faith or our Prophet. However, rather than reacting in an emotional manner, we should use the opportunity to demonstrate true Islamic values of patience and persuasion. We showed our weakness in controlling our emotions when Salman Rushdie insulted our Prophet. We have repeated the same mistake. By now we should have learned about the teachings of our prophet in dealing with such cases. Perhaps we need to go back to study the life of our leader more minutely to develop a better understanding of his character and teachings as well as his mission in the world. After all, we accept him as a mercy to humankind, including Danes, Norwegians, French, Germans, Jews, Christians and every human being that exists or will exist in our universe. Dr. Aslam Abdullah is edtior-in-Chief of the Muslim Observer and the director of the Islamic Society of Nevada as well as the director of the Muslim Electorates Council of America.
  • The Story

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    I found out Edip is indeed on the same mp3, the second half hour. The interview is great... Of course one wishes it was exclusively about Quran, but that can not be reasonably expected from a mainstream media outlet. Excellent job brother. Mohamed~
  • Liberal Islam vs 'Quran-alone' Islam

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    Salaam, Personally, to me.... Muslims who describe themselves as "liberal" (or progressive) are those who want to have thier cake and eat it too. It's like they are "culturally" Muslim rathar than religious. They are interested in the cultural aspect of Muslims (whatever that may be) than actual religious ones. But even this is only a political side, not a religious one. But religiously,many of these "liberals/progressives" do accept hadiths... they as a group do not have thier own religious philosophy though. Quran Only Muslims (like myself) reject hadiths. Quran Only is not about politics, it's about religion. salaam
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    Peace sahaba, Yes this was for the Prophet regarding his wives. The Prophet was very lucky that Allah was communicating with Him directly (mainly via the Archangel Gabriel). The Sahabas were also lucky to have the Prophet among them. If you check the Medinah Charter, it says that Allah endorses it, and this could not happen if Allah was not communicating to the Prophet other matters besides The Quran. For our guidance though, The Quran is enough because it says so. Hadith gatherers have tried to get information about the life of the Prophet to capture some of these communications between Allah and the Prophet. For me, this is why I do not rule out the Hadith completely as a source of information, but I do not take the hadith as being legally or morally binding. As for the matter in the ayat, there is a hadith that reveals that the Prophet was fond of Honey, that some of his wives were jealous of one in particular who brought him honey, and so they banded together making up a story that honey did not smell very well on him, and since the Prophet was very clean, and also considerate to his wives, he decided to stop using honey. This is one part of the story which the Prophet decided to hide. So Allah advised him of what happened, telling him that his wives have no right to make unlawful to him what Allah made lawful. (I might have distorted the story as this is off the top of my head). Salam
  • First Asr, then Wusta?

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    No I didn't mean that, what I meant was, even if you DID believe it was abrogated (because you have to believe this specific Hadith for that) they should have used Wusta because of the 'change'. Do you have any further thoughts on this? It would be quite interesting to hear people's views regarding this hadith and the maintsream view (we all know what that is )).
  • Unveiling Islam: Author Challenges Orthodox Precepts

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    Who is Gamal El-Banna? Although his brother is hailed as the founder of political Islam and considered a strong believer in dogma, Gamal El-Banna holds very liberal views on the same faith ?I WAS THE total opposite of my brother the martyr, Mr. Hassan El-Banna,? says Gamal, who insists on referring to his brother as ?Mr.? just as he was taught at school. Gamal was born in 1920 in the province of Beheira, 140 km west of Cairo. He was fourteen years younger than his brother Hassan, who received a religious education from his early years until he graduated from Dar al-?ulum. Gamal, on the other hand, went through a secular education until he dropped out of high school, ?with no regret,? after arguing with his English teacher. Later on, he studied commerce at an intermediate school until he received a diploma. ?Unfortunately, I didn?t go to a kuttab to memorize the Qur?an. I find it hard now to memorize the holy text,? says Gamal. At the age of 17, he started reading about Islamic history and soon moved on to Islamic jurisprudence. El-Banna claims he?s been reading the different texts interpreting the Qur?an, the major compilations of hadith and various jurists? works for over 50 years. El-Banna published his first book on social reform titled Three Obstacles on the Road to Glory, at the age of 25. In 1946, he published another book entitled New Democracy, in which he criticized the Muslim Brotherhood?s discourse. ?Our house was across the street from the office of the organization and I used to stand on the balcony and listen to the Brothers? weekly lesson,? says El-Banna, adding that he always questioned the pragmatism of their motto ?God is our objective, the Prophet (PBUH) is our leader and the Qur?an is our constitution.? But that didn?t stop him from working at one of the Brotherhood?s secret print houses in the 1940s where leaflets calling for the protection of Palestine against Zionists were published. He was jailed after the ban of the organization in the late 1940s. After the outbreak of the 1952 revolution, his book Rationalization of Renaissance was banned because it dubbed Nasser?s revolution a ?coup d??tat.? Due to the hostility of Nasser?s regime toward Islamists, El-Banna refrained from publishing Islamic works and focused on the syndicate movement in Egypt, at the same time working as a freelance translator for the International Labor Organization. Sadat?s apparent leniency toward Islamists encouraged El-Banna to resume his Islam-oriented works. He published books such as The Book and the Sunnah The Great Two Fundamentals and The Spirit of Islam. In 1990, he started working on his trilogy Towards New Islamic Jurisprudence, calling for the revision of the basis of Islamic fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) set by traditional Islamic scholars. Later on, he started up the Fawziyya and Gamal El-Banna Foundation for Islamic Culture and Information. Upon her return from Saudi Arabia, his sister Fawziyya donated most of the money she?d earned working as a teacher in the Gulf to promote Islamic culture through the establishment of this project. The center, established in Gamal?s modest Bab El-Shaereya apartment, houses an Islamic library which contains thousands of Arabic and English texts. One of Gamal?s most controversial works is The Veil, where he challenges the Islamic dogma obligating women to wear headscarves. He also published The Responsibility for the Failure of the Islamic State which was recently banned due to its refutation of the Sunni dogma prohibiting mutaa? or temporary marriage for Muslim expatriates in non-Islamic countries. Gamal, who considers the call for the renewal of Islamic thought on the basis of the Qur?an and the Sunnah as his mission in life, is expected to release his latest work The Renewal of Islam this month. The book, which he qualifies as a ?bombshell?, dismisses the four Islamic madhahib (schools of law), which are elevated by Muslim scholars to canonical ranks. ?This system was set up after the Islamic polity was turned into an empire. The jurists made laws that emanated from the needs of that epoch and not from the spirit of Qur?an or the guidelines set by the Prophet (PBUH) in Medina. The divine text was interpreted in a way that would serve the status quo and maintain man?s superiority over women,? says Gamal. But at Al-Azhar, many scholars consider the likes of Gamal El-Banna unqualified to tackle religious issues as they have not received the appropriate jurist education. In the meantime, many prominent Islamic thinkers dismiss him as a ?nobody.? ?This is very subjective. They should not judge my qualifications but my thoughts,? Gamal retaliates. ?The Qur?an condones freedom of thoughts in several verses. I want them to reply to what I am saying. Certificates are useless. They only help one get a job and earn a living. Thousands of people graduate from Al-Azhar every year, but none of them added anything new to Islamic thinking except for Mohamed Abdo.?
  • Limitation in science to research on God?

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    Peace Preshant, Probably in future, there shall come one day when scientists shall submit themselves to God, as the magicians of Pharaoh did in the past. More than one would guess, scientists exploring the deeper realms of their respective disciplines are left with no alternative except a higher intelligence - especially in the chaotic realm of the quantum. If you haven't already seen it, I highly recommend the DVD "What the Bleep Do We Know". Peace, Tay
  • Marines Crying for Jesus to Save Them

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    Peace Doesnt the Quran say something about those who cry for Gods help when in a hardship but then immediately turn there back on him. Yes and in my opinion it's similar to when people seek other people out to help them in some way. It's called using them. That is, they show favor of the person only in these instances where at any other time they could care less about the person. Joe
  • Competitive Eating? Haraam?

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    Peace Well I'll be a monkey's uncle ;D I guess it is in the quran ! Thanks for pointing the aya out to us
  • Honour killings and the Quran

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    Peace, Phoenix Noble wrote - .../...Gives an opportunity for the victims' perpetrator to exercise forgiveness../..Within our current system of laws the opportunity of forgiveness is absent... Phoenix1 replied Noble, how do we know if someone really is sorry for their crime? there really isn't any way to do that. The best way, IMO, is to give them up to the police, and if the family decides to "forgive," then the police can let the killer out of prison but keep him under probation. Dealing with forgiveness, from a Kamitic perspective, since the self within us, in this case the killer, is God, he is essentially redeamable, thus we should forgive him, but after he has been apprehended, stoped, punished and rehabilitated.
  • movies and music

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    peace I don't think acting can be considered lying since everyone knows they're pretending. And listening to music is not a sin.
  • Help finding verses

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    peace, there are loads, in fact, there are much more than i originally thought. 'the reading' tends to back up its ideas/concepts/guidance with examples in reality. for logic, some examples see the story of abraham or the story of Jospeph's torn shirt . also, im a big fan of 4153.
  • Nuzulul Qur'an

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    Salam, What is the difference between Nuzul Al-Quran and Laylatul Qadar. Both of them refers to a time where the Quran is sent down, but it happend in different times in the traditional calender?
  • what happened to the caliphate system?

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    Yes it is... although you or many others might not like it... On early 18th cent the country is in a state of "Jahilliyah", (Wild wild west). Then the civil war became a turning point for them... Slavery had little to nothing to do with it. In Abraham said if he could obtain the same goals without abolishing the slavery, he would. The addition of slavery to the prevailing economic issues was fuel on the pyre of the Union. This was what Robert Toombs (right) outlined in his report to the Georgia convention considering secession in 1860. They fought over a tarif first and foremost. So did they really succed in abolishing slavery? In a country where many have to work 2 jobs just to make ends meet, and few people own the home they live in and the car they drive. I would say no. Sure, they got rid of the bullship, but thats about it. No more slavery, even Saudi Arabia has to closed down their slave market on 1962. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia No they just removed the bullwhip because a new system was in place that would effectively render humankind into 2 fractions. Masters and slaves. If you are unsure which you are, no matter how much money you make, you are the later. The slaves are more in numbers by far, so its better to please them to make them do as you say. Just give them bread and cirkus... God elevates whomever He wishes.. and punished whomever He wishes. God will make his revelation complete although the "rejector" might not like it I do not disagree with this. I disagree with it in the context. There is nothing elevated about any nation on the face of the earth. All are filthy, all are run by filthy people, and all was thought up in the minds of filthy people. If we really want Gods support, its time to think this whole thing all over again. Who drew those lines in the sand that we desperately call our nations? Criminals, liars, thiefing no good leeches. All systems in place in this world is little but exploitation of the poor. The difference between then and now, is that the masters have figured out how to make us police ourselfes. peace
  • Alcohol .. Last and Final debate

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    Good post Magi. This topic is locked as it's going OT. Please start another in the appropriate section if there is any need and keep it clean.
  • Hi am new around here, if hadith are fake then Qu'ran can be fake too...

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    This thread has veered off course, and therefore is being locked.http//i28.photobucket.com/albums/c236/zenje/topicclosed.gif Feel free to start another thread in the appropriate section.