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  • Do the hadiths really explain the Qur'an or not?

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    Salaamun Alaikum group I was debating with a hadith follower and he asked me to explain verse 661. I told him that something was lawful which the Messenger turned it into unlawful! - That's it! He said.. No! What is the reason this verse was revealed! I told him.. Is it important? This verse is trying to tell us that not to make the same mistake which the Messenger did. That's it! And then he gave me the hadith explaining this verse Al-Bukhari recorded that Ubayd bin Umayr said that he heard A'ishah claiming that Allah's Messenger used to stay for a period in the house of Zaynab bint Jahsh and drink honey in her house. (She said) "Hafsah and I decided that when the Prophet entered upon either of us, we would say, I smell Maghafir on you. Have you eaten Maghafir' When he entered upon one of us, she said that to him. He replied (to her), ? ? (No, but I drank honey in the house of Zaynab bint Jahsh, and I will never drink it again.)'' Then the following was revealed; (O Prophet! Why do you fobid that which Allah has allowed to you) Any thoughts? What do you think? Wassalam! who recorded this? did the prophet record this event himself? is it just a parable? which wife bore witness that this happened? consider the quran is the word of ALLAH and the hadith does not have such truthful backing. anyone can make up a hadith ex those who make up hadith(subject) , will have the penalty of (some action and effect, usually something applied to the reader) _________ what is believable, (truth or a lie).
  • Charging money for Quran

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    Peace, Best would be to offer a printed copy for free but often there are costs to manufacture and develop the book so no error in charging money so that expenses are covered. One also could give surplus income to charity. The rich could however make and offer printed copies for free as a kind of charity and thus to struggle in the cause of God. If they make printed "Qurans" and turn that into a money business however then I suppose they try to gain a cheap profit on something owned and authored by God. The "verses" given look to me as if they discuss a different, and more grave, problem than to charge money for a text based copy of God's recitation. My understanding of the verses is that it means if the religious leaders abuse them to gain an unrighteous wealth by deceiving people, for example, by claiming an important position and telling people to feed and donate to him. God bless you I have doubts about this but what you said sounds a bit better than nothing print and give the book by way of charity and stop seeing quran sells as a opt-able commerce and trade
  • Conspiracy Theories

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    don't become a scandal monger if an issue concerning public safe is present tell it to the proper authorities or the messenger among you so it can be addressed and made clear. a conspiracy is evil plotting so what are you to do about such plots? theory means uncertainty of reason stop guessing and plotting.
  • Any Quranist Mosque?

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    We are now talking personally by messages, and I just realized that, she is a female. However I see no difference between a male and female when it comes to those subjects. Thank you for your advice. Peace. Bold Yes, it should be. Sister TruthSeeker101 also tell me that she hope all believers treat each other kindly despite what gender they are. And here is my answer to her. Yes, indeed, they should be. I hope so too. But I think I already tired to remind those brothers so they realize that we need to respect each other. They seem not listen... *sigh ( What I think is like "Okay brothers, giveup you guys, do what you want with each other, but do not speak to sisters here in the same manner." >( I think some of bothers here already behave well. However, to be honest there are quite a lot of unnecessary quarrels here, those actually can be avoided if we can be patient toward one another. I emphasize on brothers because they are men, and men usually choose to be in charge position or want to be leaders for women, so it supposed to be they show good examples in behaviors, and I don't see such things happen often in here. Can we establish free-minds to be a more peaceful forum? I hope so. Peace.
  • Sex with captives/slaves - Permissible?

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    The Quran only allowed two options for prisoners of war. Freedom or ransom. The verses about MMA has nothing to do with prisoners of war. As far as MMA is concerned, MMA is what we call a concubine. Many prophets in the Old Testament had concubines as well as wives. The only difference is concubines have no dowry arrangements and is considered an inferior form of marriage for that reason. When the believers came to Medina they came across a larger Jewish presense there and the practice of concubinage (urfi marriage in Arabic) was prevalent. Its an acceptable form of arrangement but the Quran does not advice that form of relationship since its open for abuse. Later Islamic authorities changed its meaning to mean prisoners of war. In the Bible Among the Israelites, men commonly acknowledged their concubines, and such women enjoyed the same rights in the house as legitimate wives. The concubine may not have commanded the same respect and inviolability as the wife. In the Levitical rules on sexual relations, the Hebrew word that is commonly translated as "wife" is distinct from the Hebrew word that means "concubine". However, on at least one other occasion the term is used to refer to a woman who is not a wife - specifically, the handmaiden of Jacob's wife. In the Levitical code, sexual intercourse between a man and a wife of a different man was forbidden and punishable by death for both persons involved. The Bible notes several incidents of intercourse between a man and another man's concubine, and (rape excepted) none of them resulted in capital punishment for either party, although the man to whom the concubine belonged was dishonored by such a relationship. For instance, Jacob is dishonoured when his son Reuben sleeps with his concubine Bilhah but the consequence is that Reuben is disgraced and cut out of the genealogical line. David is portrayed as having been dishonored when his son Absalom deliberately has public sex with all his father's concubines on the roof of the palace, on the advice of David's former counsellor Ahithophel. Absalom does this not just as an act of sexual potency but to show the nation that everything David had is now his, that he is the king and in total command and that David is disgraced, exiled and not coming back. Because it was regarded as the highest blessing to have many children, legitimate wives often gave their maids to their husbands to atone, at least in part, if they were barren, as in the cases of Sarah and Hagar, and Rachel and Bilhah. The children of the concubine often had equal rights with those of the legitimate wife; for example, King Abimelech was the son of Gideon and his concubine. However, Abraham's actions in allowing his wife Sarah to drive his concubine Hagar away and in sending all the sons of his concubines away with gifts, rather than allowing them to stay and have an equal inheritance with his son Isaac, indicates that he saw them as inferior to Isaac, who had been promised to him and was Sarah's child. Later biblical figures such as Gideon, and Solomon had concubines in addition to many childbearing wives. For example, the Books of Kings say that Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines. The disturbing account of the unnamed Levite shows that the taking of concubines was not the exclusive preserve of Kings or patriarchs in Israel during the time of the Judges and that the rape of a concubine was completely unacceptable to the Israelite nation and led to a civil war. In the story, the Levite appears to be an ordinary member of the tribe dedicated to the worship of God, who was undoubtedly dishonoured both by the unfaithfulness of his concubine and her abandonment of him. However, after four months, he decides to follow her back to her family home to persuade her to return to him. Her father seeks to delay his return and he does not leave early enough to make the return journey in a single day. The hospitality he is offered at Gibeah, the way in which his host's daughter is offered to the townsmen and the circumstances of his concubine's death at their hands describe a lawless time where visitors are both welcomed and threatened in equal measure. The most disturbing aspect of this account is that both the Levite and his (male) host seek to protect themselves by offering their womenfolk to their aggressors for sex, in exchange for their own safety. The Levite acts in a way which indicates that he believes that the multiple rape of his unfaithful concubine is preferable to the violation of the virginity of his host's daughter or a sexual assault on his own person. In the morning, the Levite appears to be quite indifferent to the condition of his concubine and expects her to resume the journey but she is dead. He dismembers her body and distributes her (body parts) throughout the nation of Israel as a terrible message. This outrages and revolts the Israelite tribesmen who then wreak total retribution on the men of Gibeah and the surrounding tribe of Benjamin when they support them, killing them without mercy and burning all their towns. The inhabitants of (the town of) Jabesh Gilead are then slaughtered as a punishment for not joining the eleven tribes in their war against the Benjamites and their four hundred unmarried daughters given in forced marriage to the six hundred Benjamite survivors. Finally, the two hundred Benjamite survivors who still have no wives are granted a mass marriage by abduction by the other tribes. There are no concubines in the New Testament. St Paul emphasises that church leaders should be in monogamous marriages, that believers should not have sexual relationships outside marriage. and that unmarried believers should be celibate. Marriage is to reflect the exclusive relationship between the husband (Christ) and wife (his church), described as a "mystery". In Judaism In Judaism, concubines are referred to by the Hebrew term pilegesh. The term is a non-Hebrew, non-Semitic loanword derived from the Greek word, pallakis, Greek , meaning "a mistress staying in house". According to the Babylonian Talmud, the difference between a concubine and a full wife was that the latter received a marriage contract (Hebrewketubah) and her marriage (nissu'in) was preceded by a formal betrothal (erusin). Neither was the case for a concubine. One opinion in the Jerusalem Talmud argues that the concubine should also receive a marriage contract, but without a clause specifying a divorce settlement. Certain Jewish thinkers, such as Maimonides, believed that concubines were strictly reserved for kings, and thus that a commoner may not have a concubine. Indeed, such thinkers argued that commoners may not engage in any type of sexual relations outside of a marriage. Maimonides was not the first Jewish thinker to criticise concubinage. For example, Leviticus Rabbah severely condemns the custom. Other Jewish thinkers, such as Nahmanides, Samuel ben Uri Shraga Phoebus, and Jacob Emden, strongly objected to the idea that concubines should be forbidden. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concubinage Its important to understand that MMA is primarily a Judaic. Western societies understood concubinage differently. Only Islamic authorities attached it to slavery and prisoners of war. But what is important is the Quranic use of the term which is based on its biblical understanding. When the Quran says "ma malakat aymanukum" meaning what you possessed by oath, it means a relationship established by oath only without dowry or financial arrangement and encourages to elevate that arrangement to a full marriage by establishing a dowry and financial arrangement and also informing family members. This happens many times in urfi marriages where the man denies ever having relationship with a women and tears off the contract he had with her. Nikah 'urfi is a "customary" Sunni Muslim marriage contract that is not registered with state authorities. This form of marriage usually requires witnesses. Couples repeat the words, "We got married" and pledge commitment before God, although there are many other informal ways in which people marry `urfi. Usually a paper, stating that the two are married, is written and at least two witnesses sign it, although others may record their commitment on a cassette tape and use other forms of documentation. Most Arab countries do not recognize 'Urfi marriages and do not allow partners to get a 'legal' divorce since the government does not recognize the legality of the marriage in the first place. Sometimes these relationships are a way for people to have sex with each other within what is perceived to be a licit framework. Nevertheless, the relationship is often kept secret from family members and women often become pregnant but are unable to prove they are married or get a divorce. The 'Urfi marriage has always existed, but for different reasons. In the past, it was common among the widows of soldiers who had huge pensions and they did not want to lose it by officially re-marrying. Now, however, it is mostly among university students and young couples who cannot afford the high cost of marriage. Undocumented 'Urfi marriages are increasingly popular among Egyptian youth. The high cost of marriage forces many young couples to wait several years before they marry. Conservative Egyptian society forbids sex before marriage, so many young people consider the 'Urfi marriage a solution. 'Urfi marriages are conducted by a Muslim cleric in the presence of two witnesses. However, they are not officially registered and are not legally financially binding on the man. Couples married in this way often meet in secret and avoid the expense of renting an apartment. The 'Urfi marriage can be disastrous for the wife in legal terms. If the husband leaves her without granting her a divorce, she had no legal right to seek a divorce since 'Urfi marriage is considered illegal. Her husband could remarry. The wife is in a more difficult position. If the wife remarries, she can be accused of polyandry, which is punishable by seven years in prison in Egypt, or she could remain single for the rest of her life. The new Egyptian law (passed in 2000) recognizes the woman's right to seek divorce from an 'Urfi marriage. However, the law denies her alimony and child support. There are also controversial, unofficial "'Urfi" marriages, where a couple signs documents declaring themselves married. The couple does not inform their families of the marriage. Many Egyptian clerics are against this type of 'Urfi marriage calling it a cover for pre-marital sex. An extreme form of 'Urfi marriage is known as zawag al-'urfi to give prostitution an Islamic cover, some women enter into secret marriage contracts with their summer visitors. Known in Egypt as zawag al-'urfi, this contract is made without witnesses and typically ends in divorce by summer's end. Most of Egypt's Islamic scholars condemn this use of zawag al-'urfi. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_%27urfi It has nothing to do with slavery or prisoners of war. Slavery is a barbaric act practiced by the Pharaoh in the Quran and Joseph's brothers and sex with female slaves is rape and nothing else and prisoners of war are already discussed in the Quran. Really good answer! bravo Will research more about this matter! May Allah increase our knowledge pr peace Ijaz A
  • PLEASE HELP KASSIM AHMAD BY SIGNING THIS PETITION!

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    I believe the prosecution might failed because Kassim Ahmad was charged under section 7 (b) and section 9 of the Shariah Criminal Offences (Federal Territories) Act 1997 and the offence was committed in Federal Territories of Putrajaya. . . However and if I'm not mistaken, the act shall only apply to Federal Territories of Kuala Lumpur and Labuan, not for any offence committed in Federal Territories of Putrajaya. Therefore, it is out of jurisdiction. . . (2) This Act shall apply only? (a) to the Federal Territories of Kuala Lumpur and Labuan; and (b) to persons professing the religion of Islam. Shariah Criminal Offences (Federal Territories) Act 1997
  • Warmonger

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    Salam all, I've been doubtful about warmonger. My question are 1.If there is a group of people wanna make genocide Muslims, what will you do? 2.If you were Syrian people, what would you do? 3.What will you do if Sunni and Shiah wanna kill you because of Quran alone? 4.Do you agree with Syrian president? 5.Do all Sunni scholars go to hell according to Quran? 6.What is jihad according to Quran alone? May God shows us the right path read the quran yes there are and there would have surely been masjids churchs syngogues and other place of worship pulled down if I was Syrian I would have been tourtured to death for my faith as many were before the arms arrived in Syria. I would laugh and relate to them the parable of abel and his brother kain meantioned in the quran as well as the gospel I don't know the man personally but know he takes counsel in a group like all men of power usually do. they go to sectarnist heaven...much irony think of the divide between brothers they cause. a promise binding upon us in truth to slay and be slain promised in the law gospel and the quran.
  • can you be friends with non muslims?

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    Now we have read in the Quran countless of time that God said that we're not allowed to take them as friends but at the same time Her told us it's ok as long as they are kind and respectfull towards us. Now I was wondering if it haram since there are alot of verses that God said it is yet little verse that permit. So what do you guys think. Please provide a quote. Thanks the first few verses of surah 9 will explain which of the non muslims ( pagans is a better word because other types of people such as kaffars and disbelievers are different) forget your own desire and follow what ALLAH instructs you. it will be better for you.
  • Learn Islam from an Imam?

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    Salamun Alaikum! handshake I argued with a friend today and she said that to gain knowledge (about Islam/Qur'an) and to understand the Qur'an, one need to appoint a teacher so the teacher can teach you the right thing and so he can rightly guide you. She's not mistaken, the next question will be, who shall play the role of a teacher? But herewith my response if I was in your situation.. What she said I pity u...you misguided to the wrong path...may Allah (swt) guide u to the truth path. Thanks, may Allah (swt) be willing to be my teacher and yours as well. Let me tell you,u didn't have a wisdom to grasp a knowledge of Quran and sayings or sunna of the prophet (saw) without a good teachers to explain for u....if u say u can do by yourself...am telling u, u are misled yourself.... You're right, perhaps I didn't have such wisdom to understand this life yet. I indeed shall make some mistakes, but I'll surely learn from those mistakes. As through mistakes of others and of ourselves, we learned. And I'm certain that Allah (swt) will guide me along the way. U are too dull,when jibril was sent to the prophet Muhammad (saw) what jibril said to the prophet? I don't know, I wasn't there, were you there? Did you really meet Jibril and Mohammed? OMG!!! You're right compared to you, I'm dull, with your 1400+ years of age, your life must be very long and exciting! But, my question is Did the Prophet teach the Qur'an to his companions or is it Allah who teaches the Qur'an and guides the people to understand it? Allah teached, teaches and shall continue to teach human EVERYTHING that they initially knew not. With or without any books. Can someone please give a little bit detail about this issue.. I think that we don't need Imams to teach us, they have damaged Islam more than ever and have brainwashed many with their fatwas. Imam are there to teach Islamism ideology. They're the one who invented religion of Islam. So if one wants to learn about the Islamism ideology (Sunniism, Shiaism etc..), better go to the (various) imams. Remember that through mistakes of ourselves and others we learned our lesson. As for me, I've learned Sunniism, Shiaism, Ahmadiism, Judaism, Catholicism, Orthodoxism, Protestanism, Taoism, Buddhism, Ancient Greekism, Ancient Egyptianism, Krishnaism and many others. Salam / Peace
  • The Purpose of Change

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    One huge problem is that we, human beings in general, do not know our selves and how we function. We are blindly imprisoned by the faulty (although sometimes honest, but fatally incomplete) reasoning of the mind and ego. Fear rules our lives due to our ignorance about ourselves and about the unseen realities. You are right, the "animal mind". . . it is easy to spot these traits and many people may look nice etc, but once you test them. . they will turn into their true "human animal" mode (like an animal, sometimes they are good and nice , other times they are evil etc. . and some like chicken, wolves, tiger etc, eg. chinese horoscope and animal traits) or they will believe in Allah when the life is good, but when they are tested. . they cry and become a disbeliever etc And whatever you have of favor - it is from Allah Then when adversity touches you, to Him you cry for help. 16.53 And as for man, when his Lord tries him and is generous to him and favors him, he says, "My Lord has honored me." But when He tries him and restricts his provision, he says, "My Lord has humiliated me." (89.15-16) (like animals. . when you feed them, they are nice. .but when there is no food, they might bite you etc) This is not "human mind", but it is the "animal mind" . . . and it is easy to spot them and . . . I believe the "mind and ego" is not related to the "mind" or "heart" etc. . but the "nafs" department many people mistakenly believe the "mind" control everything, but the mind is nothing the "mind" is the followers, slave, a bridge. . . and the "nafs" is the boss. . . it is "God" Have you seen the one who takes as his god his own desire? Then would you be responsible for him? (25.43) Have you seen he who has taken as his god his desire, and Allah has sent him astray due to knowledge and has set a seal upon his hearing and his heart and put over his vision a veil? So who will guide him after Allah ? Then will you not be reminded? (45.23) What is Islam? http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336793#msg336793 http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336800#msg336800 http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg336782#msg336782 therefore, until one is able to control and defeat his nafs, ie. "God" . . . he will not have the "human mind" many identify this "human mind" as "subconscious mind" or "super conscious mind", ie. the bridge. . . to hello the "heart" That's why we need consciousness. . meditation, sadaqah, dzikr etc and that's why we need to reduce our needs (self) and follow the path of Allah By no means shall you attain to righteousness until you spend (benevolently) out of what you love <- everything ? and whatever thing you spend Allah surely knows it (392) And they ask you as to what they should spend (sadaqah) Say What you can spare Thus does Allah make clear to you the communications that you may ponder (2219) What is Islam? http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605723.msg337102#msg337102 or. . they will live like animals, and they die as animals. . . The example of those who disbelieve (the system) is like that of one who shouts at what hears nothing but calls and cries cattle or sheep deaf, dumb and blind so they do not understand 2.171 (it will become worse if they do not think and use reasoning. . absolute animal traits) It cannot be, we will become the worst living creatures without thoughts. Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf <- sense perception and dumb who do not use reason 8.22
  • Qaraism?

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    But the Quran also says we should follow and believe in all scriptures. Say "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith. Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve. 5.68 - 69 Well sad bigmo. God is not a man that He needs to change his mind. God does not need to try out an idea and discard it later. If there is not one single consistent way to interpret any scripture in harmony with the scriptures it comes after, then they are not divine. Ibn Hazm's doctrine of tahrif in this case therefore is a totally man-made affront.
  • ~ The names you are serving - Not!

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    Peace Zulf. I tend to agree with your analysis. The more we know about GOD the less our mental image of him becomes, until we simply cannot imagine. If we cannot even comprehend some of His attributes, how can we build any kind of image in our minds? Until we meet Him, He is simply the "Creator", "One God", "Unique", "None like Him".... Unimaginable... However the more we search/strive to get closer to Him the more we find our true and free self. GOD bless you. Peace,
  • 61:6 - Ahmad = Muhammad?

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    What is name? What does the Qur'an mean when it speaks about names? We take today by name something fixed and official, but may be the Qur'an takes as something that in itself is a meaning, some kind of description or character. Also there is a possibility that 3isa is speaking about a future messenger, who will be most praised, who is nto there. When the messenger is already there, he becomes one who has been already most praised, as the form Muhammad is a completed thing, but Ahmad does not give that conclusiveness. Not to be forgotten also that Muhammad is the khatam a nnabiyin, that is, he is a certification for all prophets, so that when he is Muhammad, all prophets are Muhammad. Salaam
  • To each their own?

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    I think we form groups because we like to share. But it is true that each one of us is different, so may be some, but not all people may belong to different groupings in different things or contexts or circumstances. I means, what would seeem unnatural would be to participate in just one group and not in different ones at the same time, and even more along one's life. BELONGING to a single group in fact I think is what one identifies with sects. Sects want to possess you, but one normally would not like that, but to participate in things that interest her or him and one to be in one group against other groups, but to be in whatever groups as sisters of any other honest grouping. like bunches of grapes in the vine. Salaam
  • The Qur'anic System of Sustenance by G.A. Parwez

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    Peace. How do I know GOD approves of these books? I will gladly sponsor Qoran .Even though GOD is the real provider. I also have a free website for those curious enough to want to know their creator. Thanks for the offer anyway. GOD bless you. Peace.
  • Kissing haram while acting? (Theatre work)

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    Don't worry, I don't command you to stop doing what you think is right. Also, as I recall, I never said that bold word in this thread. Just relax. Peace. Ah sorry, putting words in your mouth. Haha no of course not xD, only God can tell me, and when I feel something is wrong, I usually stop it - or I see the consequences. I learn either way as we all do . I'm actually writing a romantic novel... so I agree when it comes to reading about these things than watching it. I don't know where you are located but when I'm watching TV in the UK it's so often you see people just having sex in the films or whatever.... really annoys me. For me, watching kissing is bearable, but damn... we get some crap on TV ?__?.. peace PS I am relaxed
  • Who are the Children of Israel?

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    Salaam Why Allah never spoke about "children of Ismael" in Quran ? Why Allah never address children of Israel with a "Bani Ishak" or "Bani Noah" or 'Bani Abraham" ? For wich Reason did we believe that bani Israel are jews ? How do we call Bani Israel who became Muslims or Christians ? Peace good questions! peace
  • Adam made from black mud, aged mud or dried clay?

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    Peace, Not sure, but if it was a new narration the term carbon-based might have been used. Makes more sense to contemporary people today. I suppose it has nothing to do with skin color. God bless you
  • UK: Unemployment Benefits to Finance Jihad

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    Peace. Any true "Muslim" should fear the divine justice. He/she knows they are accountable at GOD.Earning your living and being responsible is a requirement from the Almighty. Being honest and straightforward is another requirement. GOD is watching. GOD knows our intention. No one can hide anything from Him. GOD bless. Peace.
  • SAY NO to Bigotism & Bigotists!

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    For you is your deen <- Sectarianism (religion), Bigotism, the Bigotists and for me is my deen <- Just and balance (righteousness), (109) regardless of religions/tribes etc http//media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7o3yoQk0m1qhokzh.png