Questions/Comments on the Quran

I don't think those verses have anything to do with "holes". More like, flaws. Have you seen the game of life? You have a large board marked with squares, and coloured squares at whatever position you feel like, and by applying a set of rules to every square each "turn"/iteration, very strange things happen. Like this http//www.bitstorm.org/gameoflife/ Now think of this game of life in 3D, with the "squares" too small to see, and the time between iterations too small/non-existant. Pulling off a single colour somewhere on the board early in time should throw the end result well off, in the same way, that if there were flaws, we just wouldn't be here to see them.

Peace, Thanks Anwar. Nice site. Linking your pilgrimage article; makes a lot of sense. http//www.quranists.com/pilgrimage.html

Peace, My take on Al-Ka'bata here is one of its meanings from Al-Ka&bu meaning Honor/Glory. Taking into consideration the intensive feminine as in khaleef and khaleefat, or allaam and allaamat al-ka&bata naturally means true/great honor/glory. Now in this verse you will note that al-ka&bata is in mansoob. Over and Over again in the Quran the mansoob is used in place of prepositions. so ja&ala allahu al-ka&bata is God put in great/true honor al-baita al-haraama (the sacred houses i.e. sanctuaries). (I understand the same meaning for Al-ka&bati in 595 the gift reaches true honor is an expression for 'a truly honorable gift). And all this is in the context of Hajj. So my take on this is that God is telling us that God has made the sacred houses to which we make pilgrimage truly honorable. I have understood this passage in this way for some time now, and when reading the Arabic of the Quran you will see how mansoob can replace the use of prepositions. I will look for some Quranic examples that will make this obvious to you all. Godbless, Anwar

Thank you, Tanveer. That helps greatly. Peace, Hasaqn Akcay

Firstly, let's stick to what the verse actually says. I already discussed it. Secondly, please address the questions/points I raised. The way you word your responses is a little awkward for me to understand precisely... I think you are saying since one must spend all surplus beyond their needs then they would have no money left to invest, thus a capitalist system as defined by the reference you gave could not take place?

Peace, You do realize Moses' followers, Jesus' followers, Jacob etc.. etc... use the term 'muslim' in quran. Put the 2 and 2 together. It's not / couldn't possibly be a title. Please check this out http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=15111.0 welcome Thanks for the welcome, DArgento, and the reference to the article on the term "Muslim"... I look that up and think about it. I have entered only to clarify that the above perception is not correct. All the Messengers first introduced themselves as the Messenger of Allah before communicating the message they were sent with. Here are some references 761, 67, 104, and the Last Messenger has addressed the humanity to tell them "I am the Messenger of Allah towards you all" {7158} 2616, 107, 125, 143, 162, 178 4346; 4418; 6105, 06 Thank you, Mazhar... I stand corrected. Peace

It is an interresting note, that till now, I have only seen the term Ghafouri-Raheemi, the Provider of Protection, when God gives certain laws or advices. Giving a clear connection that these Laws and Advices protect us against being out of harmony with the Universal Construct. He also uses Ghafour and Raheem alone, seperate from each other, and these terms are by my opinion connected with the Creation of the Universe and its construct, as indeed the Earth's atmosphere that protect us and provide us with rain. Thus these loose definitions refer to the Universe and the terms combined to the Quranic Message. Very interesting.

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Dear mz, Burhan have given a warning that their work is under construction and the possibility of omissions cannot be ruled out. It is a typing error. Similarly they had indicated counts of some word incorrectly which on pointation on our forum have been corrected by them. And it is unfortunate practice of people that instead of doing some thing new and contributing new researc they prefer to copy from other sources and put it in a new shape. Burhan are merely copying from another programmed CD and instead of correcting the errors of that CD are adding new errors in the already good work done by the manufacturers of that programmed CD. I am sure the moment you tell Burhan they will rectify the typing mistake.

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The majority of the 'o who you believe' verses are referring to those with Muhammad physically. In fact it seems that Mumineen is referring to the believers of Muhammad (i.e. those with him) Does this mean that 'o who you believe' is JUST for them?

Kept waiting for some critical review. I now got hold of and added a video/animation showing the journey of sperm from "Qarare Makeen" to the place where one active participial will be pushed into the water that flows from exactly between the back bone and rib cage. Warning It shows the male genitalia in the form a diagram which is ordinarily shown to the medical students and therefore perhaps is not offensive but educative and eludcidates what has been stated and translated as the meanings of the relevant verse of Quran on the subject.

The Quranic verse is 159 (159) As regards this Admonition, it is We Who have sent it down, and We Ourself will preserve it. * No doubt Quran was preserved.Was this preservation -- Through "LAWS OF NATURE ' -- Without i.e violating "LAWS OF NATURE. Please do explain .Thanks COMBINATORICS http//encyclopedia.jrank.org/CLI_COM/COMBINATORIAL_ANALYSIS.html "mathematics which teaches us to ascertain and exhibit all the possible ways in which a given number of things may be associated and mixed together; so that we may be certain that we have not missed any collection or arrangement of these things that has not been enumerated." (&#1636 354 And they planned and Allah planned, and Allah is the best of planners.

According to this definition every God believing person who is an employee is a "mushrik".Because he has to obey to command of his 'boss' as well. Very strange definition Not really, first you have to know what is Allah. To obey Allah is to create/have a certain type of relationship with everybody/everything. So if the command of your boss don't go against the said relationship, that described by the attributes then you are obeying Allah. And hopefully your boss won't be a mushrik neither thus he would also be obeying the said relationship. Its no surprise your thinking the way you are - learn what Allah is, He isn't the God. God Bless.

From verse 1-9, I understand that it is God addressing the companions of (Muhammad) about them not believing that he met Gabriel. 1 God swears by His creation (the vanishing star) 2. That "your friend" has neither gone astray nor erred 3. nor does he "your friend" speaks of his own desire 4 and that he was taught by the one mighty in power (Gabriel) 6-9 about gabriel 10 I do not know who is talking here (should be God; probably Gabriel but unlikely to have only one or two verses by him). If it is God, who is the pronoun in (his slave)? Could "his slave" here mean "Gabriel's slave"; a figurative meaning that alludes to a complete obedience to what Gabriel says? I think so. It's like saying that during revelation, Muhammad is a complete slave before Gabriel and to what Gabriel reveals to him, since Gabriel is a direct messenger from God.

My friend Leoxyz is missing since 10th Sep. I hope he is okay and also hope he has not been banned.

Peace Explorer, You are welcome. Some people don't even bother to read the whole discussion before jumping to conclusions. All one has to do is read the whole discussion to see the Qur'aanic proof of the "third" life, but for some that is beyond their capabilities. I sympathize with them and acknowledge their handicap. I pray that The God gives them the sight, intellect and logic that He has bestowed on the normal. I actually sort of envy them because there will be no burden on them !! 4817 There is no burden on the blind, nor is there any burden on the cripple, nor is there on the sick any burden. And whosoever obeys God and His messenger, He will admit them into paradises with rivers flowing beneath; and whosoever turns away, He will punish him with a painful retribution.

He He = Jonah (intact) or his parts /molecules ??

It is really our own perceptions/preconceived notions that tell us that 'marrying cousins is wrong', also due to the majority fallacy.

Peace, Surat YUSSUFA did indeed change my life 360 degrees. I learned that in this dream a believer has to shield himself with two things REMEMBRANCE+PATIENCE. "ALADI ATAQA WA SABAR>>"QURAN LA ILA ILA LA If you dont mind would you like to share your story with us? How your life changed 360 degrees. Perhaps we will benefit as well. Thanks in advance.