Questions/Comments on the Quran

Thanks for commenting. The Qur'an says that if was not from Allah, we would have found many contradictions in it. Sure, when the Messenger was alive, Allah told those who were formulating their beliefs, what the role of a Messenger is. Had they any doubts, verses like these helped to settle for them which camp they belonged. It told them, for example that their allegiance belonged not only in terms of a verbal acceptance but it was more than that and it involved their whole hearted support. As for wali (protector, as appointed by Allah) was valid when the Messenger was alive. Now we have only ONE Wali who is Allah SWT. If we read the principle here, all else falls into place 379 Never would a human being, whom Allah has blessed with the Scripture, Wisdom and Prophethood, thereafter say to people, ?Be servants of me instead of Allah.? Rather, he would say, ?Become true devotees of the Lord since you learn and teach the Book and study it as it should be studied

salaam, nice opening post D

Shalom Aleikhem, I found the Qur'an having many such examples. For example 2286 God does not burden a soul except with what it can bear. For it is what it earns, and against it is what it earns. "Our Lord, do not mind us if we forget or make mistakes; our Lord, do not place a burden upon us as You have placed upon those before us; our Lord, do not place upon us what we cannot bear; pardon us, and forgive us, and have mercy on us; You are our patron, so grant us victory over the disbelieving people." 20114 Then High above all is God, the King, the True. And do not be hasty with the Qur'an before its inspiration is completed to you, and say "My Lord, increase my knowledge." 2183 And Job when he called his Lord "I have been afflicted with harm, and you are the Most Merciful of those who show mercy!" 2184 So We answered him, and We removed what was afflicting him, and We brought him back his family and others with them as a mercy from Us and a reminder to those who serve. 2185 And Ishmael and Enoch and Isaiah, all of them were patient. 2186 And We admitted them in Our mercy, they were of the good doers. 2187 And the one with 'N,' when he went off in anger, and he thought that We would not be able to take him. Then he called out in the darkness "There is no god except You! Glory be to You, I was of the wicked!" 2188 So We responded to him and We saved him from distress. And it is such that We save the faithful. 2189 And Zachariah when he called out to his Lord "My Lord, do not leave me without an heir, and You are the best inheritor." 2190 So We responded to him, and We granted him John, and We cured his wife. They used to hasten to do good, and they would call to Us in joy and in fear. And of Us they were reverent. So... like this.. I got many examples of duwa. Notice how God always emphasizes on how they were "good". So, I take it that no matter what, at the bare minimum, I have to be a nice person. ) Peace ------------- Student of Allah Peace be to you! Thank you for this response, and these are good examples. It shows that God really did take away affliction when asked and does show mercy when called upon.

Sharing a response to my question received at another forum Salamun Alaikum brother Mubashir, The answer to your question can be found in verse 2.260 where Prophet Abraham asked for proof even though he had believed. Prophet Abraham gives the reason as a reassurance of heart. (liyatma'inna qalbi) 002260 "When Abraham said "Show me, Lord, how You will raise the dead, " He replied "Have you no faith?" He said "Yes, but just to reassure my heart." Allah said, "Take four birds, draw them to you, and cut their bodies to pieces. Scatter them over the mountain-tops, then call them back. They will come swiftly to you. Know that Allah is Mighty, Wise."" I note a parallel with the above verse and the one you have shared that Muhammad Asad has translated closer to the Arabic text (5111-113). However, there is an important point that I feel should be noted and one which is apparent from these verses. The clearer the message and proof, the greater is one's responsibility and answerability. This is clearly seen in the verse where God says that the disciples punishment (i.e. answerability) would be greater if they now disbelieved after seeing clear signs. 005115 "Allah said "I will send it down unto you But if any of you after that resisteth faith, I will punish him with a penalty such as I have not inflicted on any one among all the peoples." This sentiment is mirrored in other verses too where the concept of greater clarity = greater answerability is established. For example, one notes that the punishment of the Prophet's wives would be doubled if they were guilty of unseemly conduct (3330). There is even a threat to the Prophet. 017.074-75 And had We not given you strength, you would nearly have inclined to them a little. Then We (would) have made you taste double (punishment) in this life, and double (after) death and moreover you would have found none to help you against Us!" We should all attempt to remain conscious of the manifestation of truth that has come to us and our capacities to understand it. The verse also confirms the capacity to disbelieve after belief which is confirmed in other verses as well. 003144 "Muhammad is no more than a messenger many Were the messenger that passed away before him. If he died or were slain, will ye then Turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah; but Allah (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude" 004137 "Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe (again) and (again) reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief,- God will not forgive them nor guide them nor guide them on the way" I hope that helps, God willing. Regards, Joseph. http//www.quransmessage.com/

Salaam, ay, I commend you for opening this thread. I will bear in mind, to look for this in the future. As to 31.14 I do not think that it deals with delivery as the main aspect but is included in the whole process of pregnancy and delivery when it speaks of travail upon travail. Salaam

i like your answer to much, may Allah give me also a mind to understand his message.

Thanks Bigmo and I agree. An Ismaili sarcastically asked,on another forum, that if you thnk you have the final Quran, why it did not end at 53? Her issue was that Muslims only think they have the complete Quran!! She probably meant Ali and descendant Imams have the complete version! ! Interesting but then again Sunnis are no different. They believe verses from the Koran went missing as the case with the supposed verse that said adulterers should be stones and something about breast suckling. The hadith of Sunnis says a goat confused ran away with the verse wen t the prophet dies and therfore it was not included in the Koran. We are only responsible to what comes to us anyways. I think many Shias and Ismailis can not understand why the Koran never mentioned Ali and the rest of Muhammad's descendants. But here in this forum we know there is a lot of things not mentioned by the Koran that these sects follow. They mix history with faith and are occupied with past Quranic events that have nothing to do with the message of the Koran.

Peace everyone. Member Gnosis who posted in Paradox uncreated thread about homosexuals and atheists made me think about the subject of whom can you kill and why. Now in Australia where I live and I would say in the most if not whole of the world the only time you can do that us in a just war or self defence if war is not involved. However, in one of the stories in The Quran one of the servants of God among other things kills a youth because of what he might do. I find this part of the story rather a bit rough but not unbelievable. Following are the verses that deal with it 1874 So they ventured forth until they came upon a youth, and he killed him. He said "Have you killed an innocent person without justice? You have done something awful!" 1880 "And as for the youth, his parents were believers, so we were concerned that he would oppress them by his transgression and disbelief." I would like to ask others as to your reasoning in regards to this part of the story. So my question is Why was it ok for this servant if God to kill this youth? Thanks Shalom Aleikhem, First thing first.... interpretation matters. This is my approach The key 1865 So they came upon a servant of Ours whom We had given him mercy from Us and We had taught him knowledge from Us. 1866 Moses said to him "Can I follow you so that you will teach me from the guidance you have been taught?" 1867 He said "You will not be able to have patience with me." The highlighted red part for me is the key to the story. The person did not go around killing anyone whom he guessed to be deserving death sentence. But, he was given the knowledge by God Himself. We do not know the future, so we can not take such actions. But God knows the future. Under any circumstance, He has the legal rights on His creations. Amazingly, considering 1865 and reading the story, one message I get is "Do not go around being judgmental based on guesswork". Peace ----------- Student of Allah

Peace Mirjamur, Basically, if I understood correctly, the other time suggested for Hajj (which is the one I believe to be correct), is the period following the next full moon after the Summer Solstice of June 21st. This is regarded as the hottest sun. It is then calculated ten days from the start of the full moon. The full moon lasts 3 days plus 7 to make 'the count'. I think this is it in a nutshell. Aidid Safar reckons that it is sex we are fasting from and not food, but that is another issue. Dawn.

DUROOD ? SALAWAAT ? PBUH? Durood is a Persian word meaning 'cutting off from the root'. This term was maliciously introduced by the Ajami (Persian) "Imams". You probably know that 95% of our "Imams" hailed from the defeated Persia. They were Parsis (Zoroastrians, Magians, Majoos), but Muslims in disguise. This includes the six Sunni Muhadditheen of "Sahah Sittah" (the so-called six 'authentic' books of Hadith) and the three Shi'a Muhadditheen of the so-called four ?authentic? books of Hadith. Add to this "Imam" Tabari (d.310 Hijrah), the first historian and exponent of the Qur?an, plus a multitude of other 'Imams'. They were "canonized" by the Abbasid caliphs of Baghdad. Why? The caliphs were under the influence of their Parsee mothers and wives and their viziers were Parsi as well. Moreover, these caliphs and the state-sponsored "Imams" had a synergistic relationship. You will not find any ONE of these "Imams" opposing kingship and despotism. Rather, they opened the gates for harems, slaves, concubines, wine, lewdness and all kind of luxury, indulgence and lavishness for the elite. Anyone criticizing these "Imams" would lose his neck under the state-sponsored Qazi?s Fatwas (religious edicts). So, the term Durood which meant 'cutting off Tawheed (Monotheism) from its root', gradually became popular, especially in Persia and the South Asian subcontinent. Just as Salaat was changed to the Parsi Namaz, Salawaat was denatured into Durood. Now, the real Salawaat is given in the Qur?an Inn-Allaha Wa Malaaikatihi Yusalloona 'Al-Annabi. Ya Aiyyuhallazeena Aamanoo, Salloo ?Alayihi Wa Sallimoo Tasleema. Meaning 3356 Verily, Allah and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet and support his Mission. O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Salute him and give yourself up to him and his Mission in complete submission. (465, 7157, 3343). So, we can say and work on Sal-Allahu ?Alayihi Wa Sallam ? or Allahumma Salli ?Ala Muhammadinw-Wa-Baarik Wa Sallim. Incidentally, here is the Salawat for Mu?mineen. 3343 He it is Who bestows His blessings upon you, and supports you, and His angels, that He may bring you forth from darkness into Light. He is Merciful to those who choose to believe. (2155-157, 9103141, 1415, 3356) PBUH (Peace be upon him) Finally, it has become customary to write PBUH (Peace be upon him) after the name of the exalted Prophet Muhammad. For a few centuries, the Mullahs and their blind followers have been translating Sall-Allahu 'alayhe wa-sallam as "Peace be upon him". Of course, peace is upon him and he is in peace. Does he need our prayers? It is the Mullah who needs peace; peace from propagating sectarianism, hatred, terror, the barbaric manmade Shari?ah and N2I, the Number Two Islam. Sall-Allahu 'alayhe wa-sallam means, "Allah honors him and supports his Mission." As a token of respect, I suggest writing The exalted Prophet, the Prophet (S) or Muhammad (S). We may also write, ?Our respects and salutations to him? where appropriate. Please note that the so-called ?Durood-e-Ibrahimi? recited in the Namaz is nowhere found in the Qur?an. The Bible, the Qur?an and history tell us what great tribulations the Israeli progeny of the exalted Ibrahim had to undergo among themselves and at the hands of foreign invaders. How can we pray that we undergo the same devastation as they did? Muhammad SAW hardly needs comment. It looks weird and an unfamiliar person is likely to ask, "What did he see?"

"You taste it. You are indeed the Excellency Magnificent King/Monarch". I have posted an article about it. Salaam, thank you, inshaAllah I will do my best to understand it

Salam, The verse 2- 221 has a word , it is and the paradigm is . The meaning of the word can not be menses , The word for menses is then why instead of the word is used. the word means the place or the time or the target of one of the meaning of is menses while meanings are blood like material coming out of the stem acacia tree ( &#1585, Water flows ( &#1569. So the meaning of is place or time when blood or water flows . Now keeping in view the context of war the simple meanings are the time or place of war . Other objection to the usual translation is the answer to the query about the answer is painful. This answer is not correct about menses. Its only painful or disturbing to some ladies. This statement can not be taken categorical for all ladies. Hence It is again to be interpreted as condition of war. Hence never means keep yourself away from ladies but here it again means keep yourself away from the oppressed or weak people till they have cleared of the wrong thoughts and ideas. Once they are pure according to Quranic teachings then you may come to them according to the orders of Quran. Because God loves those who return to the right path and purifies. Please find a list of resources, including Arabic Lexicons, dictionaries and books on grammar. William Lane?s Lexicon http//www.tyndalearchive.com/tabs/lane/ A Grammar of the Arabic Language by W. Wright, revised by W. Robertson Smith and M. J. DE Goeje. Volume 1 Librairie du Liban, Beirut, (1996) http//www.ghazali.org/arabic/WrightArabicGrammarVol1.pdf A Grammar of the Arabic Language by W. Wright, revised by W. Robertson Smith and M. J. DE Goeje. Volume 2 Librairie du Liban, Beirut, (1996) http//www.ghazali.org/arabic/WrightArabicGrammarVol2.pdf A Grammar of the Arabic Language, by Haywood (1965) http//www.ghazali.org/books/haywood-65.pdf A dictionary of Islam, T. P. Hughes (1885) http//www.ghazali.org/books/huges-1885.pdf Dictionary of Koran, J. Penrice (1873) http//www.ghazali.org/books/penrise-1873.pdf Arabic Dictionary by Hans Wehr (1976) http//www.ghazali.org/books/wehr-cowan-76.pdf Al-Mawrid - rowhi ba`albaki http//www.ghazali.org/books/mawrid-95-7th-rbaal.pdf Wortbat Porter 4th edition http//www.ghazali.org/books/wortbat-porter-4thed.pdf If you would like any more books (pdf format), please refer to http//www.ghazali.org/arabic/ Thanks RegardsArabic-English Lexicon by Edward William Lane www.tyndalearchive.com i have copy pasted some one else's understanding of the words haid and Almuhaid , what is your take .

Hi Curious Girl. ) The first complete translation of the Quran was completed in 884 CE in Alwar (Sindh, India now Pakistan) by the orders of Abdullah bin Umar bin Abdul Aziz on the request of the Hindu Raja Mehruk. Robert of Ketton's 1143 translation of the Quran for Peter the Venerable, Lex Mahumet pseudoprophete, was the first into a Western language (Latin). Alexander Ross offered the first English version in 1649, from the French translation of L'Alcoran de Mahomet (1647) by Andre du Ryer. In 1734, George Sale produced the first scholarly translation of the Quran into English; another was produced by Richard Bell in 1937, and yet another by Arthur John Arberry in 1955. All these translators were non-Muslims. There have been numerous translations by Muslims. The historical credibility of the Qur'an is further established by the fact that one of the copies sent out by the Caliph Uthman is still in existence today. It lies in the Museum of the City of Tashkent in Uzbekistan, Central Asia....and an early manuscript on gazelle parchment exists in Dar al-Kutub as-Sultaniyyah in Egypt. More ancient manuscripts from all periods of Islamic history found in the Library of Congress in Washington, the Chester Beatty Museum in Dublin (Ireland) and the London Museum have been compared with those in Tashkent, Turkey and Egypt, with results confirming that there have not been any changes in the text from its original time of writing Translations are just interpretations, which can be influenced by the author. I have 8 translations, all stating slightly different things. This is why it is so important to go back to the arabic form. In Arabic a word can have several meanings. If you read the article here on Companions in heaven you can see for yourself, how different a translation can end up. Same problem with the Bible when translated from Greek to Latin, verses were wrongly translated. Even with the most recent Papyrus writings found in Egypt (look up Dr. Bart D. Ehrman) you can see problematic translations. The Quran is complete in all aspects, I am not just saying that but Allah says so Himself. There is nothing more needed. Why Arabic?? Because Allah tells us Had we made it a non-Arabic Reading they would have said, Why are the verses not explained? Shall we reveal a non-Arabic reading to an Arab? Say, For those who believe it is a beacon and a guide. As for those who do not believe they will be deaf and blind to it, as if they are being called from afar. We also gave Moses the Scripture and it, too, was disputed. If it were not for a predetermined decision by your Lord, they would have been judged immediately. They are in great doubt thereof. (4144-45) If presented in Arabic to the non-Arabs they could not accept it when recited to them. This is the way We render it to the hearts of the undeserved. Consequently, they fail to believe until the painful retributions strike them. (26198-201) I hope this helps some. Just my 2 cents. Take care ) "And We have revealed the Book to you which has clear explanation of everything, and a guidance, mercy and good news for those who submit." (Qur'an 1689)

Thanks Raaajah I have updated to cover the point raised by you. Cobra finds mention in Grand Qur'aan

The first is genitive. When it is the object of verb it will be considered as accusative. The second is nominative. Sound plural participles are sort of diptotes.

Shalom Aleikhem, Miracle ? I don't really know........... the question I ask myself is...even if God performs such Miracles... would He do it for me ? peace ------------------ Student of Allah

Yes, it is referring to How? Please explain. mmKhan

Salaam Sensei, Welcome to the forum. Thank you for the post, have only read the first paragraph, it looks interesting. InshaAllah I will read it later. Is it the full translation from the urdu link? Salaam, Bender

hi i am new here. it seems most quranist would use the method of corroborating the words used in one verse with another ones, but what if the words in the quran are not meant to be corroborated? what if one word can mean two things? i am not a linguist, but i think there are some occurence in certain language where a word can be used to mean another thing. Shalom, Well, no matter which translation I read, I often find that one word may mean 2 things under 2 different circumstance. So couldn't really understand your point. Are you referring to anything specific ? like an article about studying Qur'an may be ? Peace ---------- Student of Allah

Shalom Aleikhom, Did anyone ever complain about your website ? It hurts my head !!!! The color, the layout, everything !! It would be super awesome of you can update it and make it visually much more comprehensible. I find lots of posts by you here in FM, but rarely can I follow through. And that makes me sad at times that I have to give up on gaining some extra knowledge here and there just for the presentation style. I am no presentation guru, so its just my opinion at the end of the day. Peace be on you ------------------------- Student of Allah Thanks, Can you give suggestion for colour and layout. Except colour, most of the sites have the same layout.