In depth study on Salaat in Quran
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He in fact exposed himself to be a cheat and imposter. Pl find time to read few threads on 19 section of the Forum.
Rashad Khalifa's Intellectual deceit exposed-
And what about this regarding 9128-129 http//www.islamrevolution.org/9128129parti.htm + http//www.islamrevolution.org/9128129partii.htm
And what about the miracle(s) that surrounds the date of his assassination and engraved it in the entire sura 19 http//www.islamrevolution.org/rashadsdeathandsura19.htm
People want to see messengers as perfect and they are not. The message he brought, which is to follow the Quran exclusively, never mention names beside God, purify the Quran, is a reality and is here to stay.
Pierre
Pierre
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Just like Rashad khalfa taught u , u think all salat is a rituel of nimaz ! i use to think that too actually
But , u really think that allah gave the Quran to people , in it are a set of rituels and told them give this quran to humanity ?
If someone say salat is a rituel, than it is a satanic translation, because Satan Loves rituals, and for u the quran is a set of rituals, cas you explain what wousta mean in arabic ? if you want to put a point in between ywo points in arabic with the ewact dimensions between the two sides of this middepoint, it is called markaz, than it sould salat markaziya , and not wista
Salaam,
Wusta means "middle". Open Quranic dictionaries and other types of dictionaries.
Furthermore, 2238 did not say "Preserve strictly the salatayn" (dual = two) but the "salawat" (three or more).2238 "Preserve strictly the ritual prayers (salawat), as well as the middle prayer (Salaat al wusta), and stand up before God with humility.
When Salaat is mentioned in a general sense, it is always refered to as "Aqeemu ssallaata" (observe Salaat), but in 2238, because it refers directly to the salawat of a day (implying time frames) and the middle prayer of all other prayers of the day, it is referred to as "Hafizu 'alaa ssalaawati" (Preserve strictly the ritual prayers).
So what game are you playing with the word "salawat" claiming there are only two ?! Where is your dual "salaatayn" if you are truthful ?!
Pierre
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Quote from Mazhar on Today at 100140 AM
He in fact exposed himself to be a cheat and imposter. Pl find time to read few threads on 19 section of the Forum.Rashad Khalifa's Intellectual deceit exposed-
And what about this regarding 9128-129 http//www.islamrevolution.org/9128129parti.htm + http//www.islamrevolution.org/9128129partii.htm
And what about the miracle(s) that surrounds the date of his assassination and engraved it in the entire sura 19 http//www.islamrevolution.org/rashadsdeathandsura19.htm
People want to see messengers as perfect and they are not. The message he brought, which is to follow the Quran exclusively, never mention names beside God, purify the Quran, is a reality and is here to stay.
Pierre
Pierre
I have read those, and are quoted in the link verbatim. Can you deny those deceits of RK?
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Salaam,
Wusta means "middle". Open Quranic dictionaries and other types of dictionaries.
Furthermore, 2238 did not say "Preserve strictly the salatayn" (dual = two) but the "salawat" (three or more).2238 "Preserve strictly the ritual prayers (salawat), as well as the middle prayer (Salaat al wusta), and stand up before God with humility.
When Salaat is mentioned in a general sense, it is always refered to as "Aqeemu ssallaata" (observe Salaat), but in 2238, because it refers directly to the salawat of a day (implying time frames) and the middle prayer of all other prayers of the day, it is referred to as "Hafizu 'alaa ssalaawati" (Preserve strictly the ritual prayers).
So what game are you playing with the word "salawat" claiming there are only two ?! Where is your dual "salaatayn" if you are truthful ?!
Pierre
Are these called salat and salawat or not ? how do u define ritual prayer?
Are all these called salat and salawat or not ?
the only precise salat with timings are the ones that gos always for the two extreme parts of the day, it always say when it starts and when it ends, so what about the other salats? parliement , family affairs etc.... what make u so sure that bukhari and hadiths were right when they invented 5 salat just as zoroastrians, ? why in one side, khalfa says salat came to us from generation to generation, and allah says it clearly in the quran to don't follow what your fathers did, you have the quran, if i follow the TAWATOUR for salat, i better follow more of the hadith better than beign a hypocrit
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Quote from Mazhar on Today at 031826 PM
I have read those, and are quoted in the link verbatim. Can you deny those deceits of RK?Do you deny the miracle of 19 ?
Pierre
It seems that you have not even seen the link given. His so called 19 miracle proves 9128-129 as the original text of Qur'aan. He fudged the digits to support his willfull deceit.
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It seems that you have not even seen the link given. His so called 19 miracle proves 9128-129 as the original text of Qur'aan. He fudged the digits to support his willfull deceit.
Salaam,
I don't have the time to go over your document right now, but I am interested in studying it, give me a few weeks and I will get back to it seriously God willing.
In the meantime, Can you respond to these few questions- Do you believe there are 365 words "day" in the Quran or not (generic singular forms, no pronouns...).
- Do you pray five times daily ?
- Do you prostrate physically in Salaat ?
- Do you believe the Islamic calendar is lunar ?
- Do you believe that the 9th lunar month is "Ramadan", the month of fasting ?
- Do you believe the Sacred Masjid is located in Mecca ?
- Do you believe we do the ritual of tawaf, walking between safa and Marwa at the Sacred Masjid ?
Just a few questions to understand better who you are.
Peace.
Pierre
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Do you believe there are 365 words "day" in the Quran or not (generic singular forms, no pronouns...).
It is a matter of simple counting.
If you "believe" it has 365 occurrences in Grand Qur'aan, the only thing that you need to do is that you quote the Aayat Nos where it occurs in sequential order for convenience of cross verification and then make it your "belief".
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Are these called salat and salawat or not ? how do u define ritual prayer?
Are all these called salat and salawat or not ?
the only precise salat with timings are the ones that gos always for the two extreme parts of the day, it always say when it starts and when it ends, so what about the other salats? parliement , family affairs etc.... what make u so sure that bukhari and hadiths were right when they invented 5 salat just as zoroastrians, ? why in one side, khalfa says salat came to us from generation to generation, and allah says it clearly in the quran to don't follow what your fathers did, you have the quran, if i follow the TAWATOUR for salat, i better follow more of the hadith better than beign a hypocrit
Salaam,
Salaat has been prescribed at specific times
(4103) ?Observe the ritual prayers; indeed the ritual prayer has been decreed upon believers at specific times.- The Dawn prayer
Dawn Quranic time frame (891) By the Dawn !
(11114) And observe (O Muhammad) the ritual prayer at both extremities of the daylight (dual plural = two entities, referring to the Dawn and Sunset Quranic time frames)?
(20130) So be patient regarding what they say, and celebrate (O Muhammad) the praise(s) of your Lord before sunrise (lit. ?the rising of the sun?)?- Noon Prayer
Noon Quranic time frame Sun at its zenith until ?Asr (Afternoon) (245 ? Before the Dawn prayer, when you put away your clothes in the Midday () , and after the Night prayer?
(301 All praise is due to Him in the heavens and the earth In the evening as well as when you reach Midday ( , when the sun starts to decline at zenith).
(177 Observe (O Muhammad) the ritual prayer from the decline of the sun (?Duluk al shams? at Noon when the sun starts declining from its zenith) until the darkness of the night ?
Remark ?Duluk al Shams? (?the decline of the sun? at noon in 177 cannot possibly mean ?the rubbing of the sun? (at Sunset against the line of the horizon), as some people have claimed, because the Sunset prayer has to be observed when the sun has completely disappeared behind the horizon (as it is made clear in 20130, the exact limit between the Afternoon and Sunset time frames is "the disappearance of the sun", and it frequently takes over one minute for the sun to supposedly ?rub against the line of the horizon? at sea level and disappear completely. Salaat times are perfectly precise, not an approximation. Furthermore it is a lie that the sun ?rubs? against the horizon; it is a ridiculous belief inherited from the middle ages.
- Afternoon prayer
Afternoon Quranic time frame from when the sun reaches the middle between noon and sunset, until sunset (1031) By the Afternoon !
(20130) So be patient regarding what they say, and celebrate (O Muhammad) the praise(s) of your Lord before the rising of the sun (Dawn Quranic time frame) and before its disappearance (primarily the ?Afternoon? Quranic time frame)?
- The Quranic time frame directly located ?before ?the disappearance of the sun? is ?Asr (the afternoon, 1031). You cannot observe the Noon prayer in the ?Afternoon?, so the afternoon prayer is by definition included in the time period referred to as ?before the disappearance of the sun?.
- Exact same meaning in the following verse
(5039) So be patient regarding what they say, and celebrate (O Muhammad) the praise(s) of your Lord before the rising of the sun and before sunset (primarily Afternoon, but also Noon prayer). - The Afternoon prayer is mentioned by name
(223 Preserve strictly the ritual prayers (salawat = 3 or more Salawat), as well as the middle prayer (Salaat al wusta), and stand up before God with humility. - The ?Middle? prayer is the Afternoon prayer, when the course of sun reaches the ?middle? between Noon and Sunset. The ?Middle? prayer is also the middle prayer of all Five daily prayers in Islam (Dawn, Noon, Afternoon, Sunset, Night).
- Sunset prayer
Sunset Quranic time frame visual disappearance of the sun until the apparition of stable darkness at the end of twilight (921) And the night (layl) as it is spreading. ( = imperfect tense action in the process = there is still light in the sky).
(11114) And observe (O Muhammad) the ritual prayer at both extremities of the daylight (dual plural = two entities. Referring to Dawn and Sunset Quranic time frames)?
(20130) So be patient regarding what they say, and celebrate (O Muhammad) the praise(s) of your Lord before the rising of the sun (= Dawn prayer) and before its disappearance (Afternoon, and Noon prayers), as well as from the (first) hours of the night (= Sunset/Night prayers), and celebrate (the praise of your Lord) at the extremities (regular plural = three or more extremities) of the daylight, that you may be content.
- The limit between the Afternoon and Sunset prayers is ?the (complete) disappearance of the sun?. Once the sun has completely disappeared visually in the sky at sea level, it is time for the Sunset prayer.
17.2.5 Night prayer
Night Quranic time frame The dark night
(932) And when the night (layl) has darkened ( = perfect tense = action is over = stable state of darkness = when there is no more daylight in the sky).- The ?Night prayer? (Salaat al 'Ichaa) is mentioned by name in 2458.
- 20130 above says that we shall praise God ?from the (first) hours of the night (= Sunset/Night prayers), and celebrate (the praise of your Lord) at the extremities of the daylight (regular plural = three or more extremities), that you may be content.?
- The Arabic expression which stands for ?from the (first) hours of the night? (Aanaa? llayl) is plural and describes an extended period of time that is much too short for the Sunset time frame alone described in 921 (barely an hour). Therefore ?from the (first) hours of the night? englobes both the ?Sunset? (921) and ?dark Night? (932) Quranic time frames.
(11114) And observe (O Muhammad) the ritual prayer ( َ at both extremities of the daylight ( = Dawn + Sunset), and (و in the early watches of the night ( = Night prayer) verily good deeds repel evil deeds. This is a reminder for those who celebrate (their Lord).
All these FIVE precise Salaat times correspond to FIVE specific Quranic time frames.
People who claim that some verses do not refer to Salaat time frames are exposed by 5039-40
(5039) So be patient regarding what they say, and celebrate (O Muhammad) the praise(s) of your Lord before the rising of the sun and before sunset, (5040) And (starting) from the night ( ), so glorify Him (), as well as at the ends of the prostrations ( ).Even though the word Salaat is not mentioned in 5039-40, the fact we shall glorify God at the ends of the ?prostrations? (Arabic plural = three or more) makes it clear we are dealing with Salaat and Salaat times. Only those who are to arrogant to prostrate during Salaat will reject this incontrovertible proof.
We have seen in this post that indeed Salaat has been prescribed at very specific times wich coincide with specific Quranic time frames.6842 The day will come when they will be exposed, and they will be required to fall prostrate, but they will be unable to.
Pierre
- The Dawn prayer
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Salaam,
I don't have the time to go over your document right now, but I am interested in studying it, give me a few weeks and I will get back to it seriously God willing.
In the meantime, Can you respond to these few questions- Do you believe there are 365 words "day" in the Quran or not (generic singular forms, no pronouns...).
- Do you pray five times daily ?
- Do you prostrate physically in Salaat ?
- Do you believe the Islamic calendar is lunar ?
- Do you believe that the 9th lunar month is "Ramadan", the month of fasting ?
- Do you believe the Sacred Masjid is located in Mecca ?
- Do you believe we do the ritual of tawaf, walking between safa and Marwa at the Sacred Masjid ?
Just a few questions to understand better who you are.
Peace.
Pierre
Oh no you forget to ask one important question,
Do you Kiss the black stone -*
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It is a matter of simple counting.
If you "believe" it has 365 occurrences in Grand Qur'aan, the only thing that you need to do is that you quote the Aayat Nos where it occurs in sequential order for convenience of cross verification and then make it your "belief".
Would you mind answering these few questions, you know what I believe, I don't know what you believe
- Do you pray five times daily ?
- Do you prostrate physically in Salaat ?
- Do you believe the Islamic calendar is lunar ?
- Do you believe that the 9th lunar month is "Ramadan", the month of fasting ?
- Do you believe the Sacred Masjid is located in Mecca ?
- Do you believe we do the ritual of tawaf, walking between safa and Marwa by the Sacred Masjid ?
Peace.
Pierre
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And I am interested in knowing the reason and logic of your belief in the so called nessengership of Rashad Khalifa. Rashad Khalifa was interested in digits more than anything else. And I say playing with digits is always dangerous since it quite conveniently exposes his fraud and cheatig.
You brought in the figure of 365 with reference to belief, perhaps RK counted that too. Please mention the reference No of Ayat where it occurs for 365 times, generic form, no pronouns as you suggest.
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And I am interested in knowing the reason and logic of your belief in the so called nessengership of Rashad Khalifa. Rashad Khalifa was interested in digits more than anything else. And I say playing with digits is always dangerous since it quite conveniently exposes his fraud and cheatig.
You brought in the figure of 365 with reference to belief, perhaps RK counted that too. Please mention the reference No of Ayat where it occurs for 365 times, generic form, no pronouns as you suggest.
http//www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Quran_and_the_365_days_Maths_Miracle peace
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Salam Afridi,
Thanks I know these figures since I compile all occurrences for translation. He used the word generic and without pronouns. 365 figure is arrived only aftter icluding prepositional phrases. And with addition of possessive phrases the figure exceeds to 375. And if prepositional phrases are also excluded the figure gets reduced to 349.
12 months do not comprise of 365 days, it is presumed only for convenience of calculation, and some years are calculated as 366 days, therefore, there is nothing to be considered as "digital miricle".
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Salaam,
Before I answer this post, I want you to put in your mind that it is not about proving a point of view, but discussing what e understood, and whay we believe, no more.
Salaat has been prescribed at specific times
(4103) ?Observe the ritual prayers; indeed the ritual prayer has been decreed upon believers at specific times.
Prayer is Duaa in arabic, , you didn't answer why you translate Salat to rituel prayer !!!- The Dawn prayer
Dawn Quranic time frame (891) By the Dawn !
This is Allah swearing, Allah sweared by many things, for example, by the moon ! than do we pray if we see the moon?
(11114) And observe (O Muhammad) the ritual prayer at both extremities of the daylight (dual plural = two entities, referring to the Dawn and Sunset Quranic time frames)?
Trafay annahar are extreme parts and not points
(20130) So be patient regarding what they say, and celebrate (O Muhammad) the praise(s) of your Lord before sunrise (lit. ?the rising of the sun?)?
Brfore sunrise , is called Ishrak in arabic that is when the sun first appear before it goes up- Noon Prayer
Noon Quranic time frame Sun at its zenith until ?Asr (Afternoon) (245 ? Before the Dawn prayer, when you put away your clothes in the Midday (ِ , and after the Night prayer?
in arabic means Nap , not afternoon, afternoon is called Almasaa, and why allah didn't mention any salat at dhaheera, not before, not after ?
(301 All praise is due to Him in the heavens and the earth In the evening as well as when you reach Midday ( , when the sun starts to decline at zenith).
Read carefully, All praise , not praise your lord, this has nothing to do for Allah is praising himself when we sleep as dead, than rise alive, morning and nap time, remember, , Todhhiroune means you be shown litteraly, had nothing to do with noon , dhohr, can u say to someone when you be nooned ? read the arabic word Dahara , ask what is means ! if u search for the truth !(177 Observe (O Muhammad) the ritual prayer from the decline of the sun (?Duluk al shams? at Noon when the sun starts declining from its zenith) until the darkness of the night ?
Duluk comes from the word Dulew , when u put the in the well and it starts going down in the well, you say duluk addalw , so when the sun touches the horizon before getting to set , u say duluk shamsRemark ?Duluk al Shams? (?the decline of the sun? at noon in 177 cannot possibly mean ?the rubbing of the sun? (at Sunset against the line of the horizon), as some people have claimed, because the Sunset prayer has to be observed when the sun has completely disappeared behind the horizon (as it is made clear in 20130, the exact limit between the Afternoon and Sunset time frames is "the disappearance of the sun", and it frequently takes over one minute for the sun to supposedly ?rub against the line of the horizon? at sea level and disappear completely. Salaat times are perfectly precise, not an approximation. Furthermore it is a lie that the sun ?rubs? against the horizon; it is a ridiculous belief inherited from the middle ages.
I didn't see any dissapearance of the sun in this verse- Afternoon prayer
Afternoon Quranic time frame from when the sun reaches the middle between noon and sunset, until sunset (1031) By the Afternoon !
(20130) So be patient regarding what they say, and celebrate (O Muhammad) the praise(s) of your Lord before the rising of the sun (Dawn Quranic time frame) and before its disappearance (primarily the ?Afternoon? Quranic time frame)?
U wrong, the only phenomena that happens before the setting of the sun is duluk alshams, u have to search for this again
this is enaugh, if u think i am wrong, let me know if u know arabic i might make one post for u in arabic, good clear explanation
PeaceDo what allah told u and not what anybody suggested that allah told u , salat with it's details is in the quran, the quran is fullu detailed
I saw u asked wakas about prostration, i do believe that salat is reading the quran and prostrating, standing and prostrating, just as the quran said, some people believe there is no physical prostrating, i don't know if they're right or wrong, only allah knows, but if they're good people, believe in the quran, apply it on themselves and love allah,; they're prostrationg continusely 24h/day, there is nothing better than that, for i need to prostrate to my creator at least physically, for i know i make too much mistakes so i am far from beign prostrating continuously - The Dawn prayer
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And I am interested in knowing the reason and logic of your belief in the so called nessengership of Rashad Khalifa. Rashad Khalifa was interested in digits more than anything else. And I say playing with digits is always dangerous since it quite conveniently exposes his fraud and cheatig.
You brought in the figure of 365 with reference to belief, perhaps RK counted that too. Please mention the reference No of Ayat where it occurs for 365 times, generic form, no pronouns as you suggest.
Salaam,
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341 verses = 365 words "day" (generic form, no pronouns attached).Would you mind answering these few questions, you know what I believe, I don't know what you believe
- Do you pray five times daily ?
- Do you prostrate physically in Salaat ?
- Do you believe the Islamic calendar is lunar ?
- Do you believe that the 9th lunar month is "Ramadan", the month of fasting ?
- Do you believe the Sacred Masjid is located in Mecca ?
- Do you believe we should do the ritual of tawaf, walking between safa and Marwa by the Sacred Masjid ?
Peace.
Pierre
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I checked the site you?ve given and tried to see who is the cheater, you or Dr.Khalifa.
You have quoted from Rashad for the word of ?Rasoul? as
<<<< The INDEX TO THE WORDS OF THE QURAN, lists 116 "Rasool" (Messenger) words. One of these words is in 9128. By removing this false verse, 115 "Rasool" words remain. Another "Rasool" word which must be excluded from counting is in 1250, since it refers to the "messenger of Pharaoh," not the messenger of God. Thus, the total occurrence of "Rasool" of God is 114, 19x6".>>>
And then you?ve written there
<<<The figure quoted as 116 occurrences by Rashad Khalifa is imaginary void of any substance. One gets puzzled how he quoted this figure but it helps understand his state of mind since he claimed to get "mental communication".>>>
Now let?s compare in what you?ve written to what Rashad wrote?.Rashad says the word of Rasoul in entire Quran is 116 including 9128 and then you only counted occurrence of the word of Rasulun as it?s written in 9128 by coming to conclusion that there are 38 of them and signature of God (19) is on it and then calling him as a cheater!
I went through all the verses for ?Rasulun? as you claimed and guess what there are 39 not 38!!....you either missed out 1047 or intentionally ignored it in order reaching 38 for multiple of 19 for your agenda.
As for counting of Elaaha again you have cheated?.Although there are 38 verses where the word of Elaaha has been mentioned but there are 39 of them in the Quran including 9128 according to your counting because in 318 there are 2 Elaaha not one.
Shall I announce you now a cheater or not? Please go head and check it out and let me know if I?m wrong !!
The counting of these 2 words through you proved that 9128-129 do not belong to the Quran! Glory be to God.
Insha-Allah I?ll let you know about other 2 words too.
Asana
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I checked the site you?ve given and tried to see who is the cheater, you or Dr.Khalifa.
You have quoted from Rashad for the word of ?Rasoul? as
<<<< The INDEX TO THE WORDS OF THE QURAN, lists 116 "Rasool" (Messenger) words. One of these words is in 9128. By removing this false verse, 115 "Rasool" words remain. Another "Rasool" word which must be excluded from counting is in 1250, since it refers to the "messenger of Pharaoh," not the messenger of God. Thus, the total occurrence of "Rasool" of God is 114, 19x6".>>>
And then you?ve written there
<<<The figure quoted as 116 occurrences by Rashad Khalifa is imaginary void of any substance. One gets puzzled how he quoted this figure but it helps understand his state of mind since he claimed to get "mental communication".>>>
Now let?s compare in what you?ve written to what Rashad wrote?.Rashad says the word of Rasoul in entire Quran is 116 including 9128 and then you only counted occurrence of the word of Rasulun as it?s written in 9128 by coming to conclusion that there are 38 of them and signature of God (19) is on it and then calling him as a cheater!
I went through all the verses for ?Rasulun? as you claimed and guess what there are 39 not 38!!....you either missed out 1047 or intentionally ignored it in order reaching 38 for multiple of 19 for your agenda.
As for counting of Elaaha again you have cheated?.Although there are 38 verses where the word of Elaaha has been mentioned but there are 39 of them in the Quran including 9128 according to your counting because in 318 there are 2 Elaaha not one.
Shall I announce you now a cheater or not? Please go head and check it out and let me know if I?m wrong !!
The counting of these 2 words through you proved that 9128-129 do not belong to the Quran! Glory be to God.
Insha-Allah I?ll let you know about other 2 words too.
Asana
Salaam Asana,
What Mazhar especially avoids in his article is that all generic forms of the four words of the Bismiilah are all indepently multiple of 19, their combined frequency is double multiple of 19. Simple facts like 114 bismillahs, 114 suras, 6346 verses (all multiple of 19) do not interest him.
His article is picking and choosing to try to hide God's miracle.Peace.
Pierre
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Salaam Asana,
What Mazhar especially avoids in his article is that all generic forms of the four words of the Bismiilah are all indepently multiple of 19, their combined frequency is double multiple of 19. Simple facts like 114 bismillahs, 114 suras, 6346 verses (all multiple of 19) do not interest him.
His article is picking and choosing to try to hide God's miracle.Peace.
Pierre
Why do u call it a miracle ? what if someone understands a verse that no one understands before him ? is he automatically a messenger of god ? is recognising rashad as a messenger of god is so important for u even though there's no clear message at all that predicted or said there willl be messengers after mohamed ? all what u guys doing is interpreting, u see? in ancient book it always said that prophets will come and they always expected them, but since u had hard time to prouve that there is a difference between a messenger and a prophet and the argument never ends because it make no sense that god sends a man to teach the scripture who is not taught by allah the book itself, even john who had no book and was a prophet allah taght him the book , i mean u yourselves admit th emistakes of rashad in translations, even , let's assume that this number19 is true , does it prouve a messengership ? why wasn't he supported by god because od said he always send his messengers with clear proof, clear, not having computer skills and spending hours and days to verify the code !!!!! let's say we find a miracle in the quran, like a discovery or something that is outstading, what does that proove??? ofcourse it prouves that Mohamed is a true prophete because his book came from allah just like Souhouf Ibrahim And Moussa
I don't understand what's so important to u about believing in rashad !!! he's dead , and he's gonna take account in front of god, God send me a message called the Quran, I have it, it's all about morals and conduct.
To me rashad played with fire, he took advantage of the weakness of sounnis and shia for their corruption and tried to play with the quran , to destroy it from inside, but he forget that the quran was protected since the verse of protection of quran came down, so allah punished him in this world and in the herafter, he do wahtever he wills with him