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Pilgrimage (Hajj)

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  • Hajj are months well known!!

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    Is surat Quraish linked to hajj? I guess that's a possibility that it's speaking about their "hajj", but we don't know for sure. It could be talking about almost any form of travel, and many commentators have taken this to be referring to the travel of the Qurayish people to carry on their trade, especially since it's directly speaking about the summer and winter months...
  • Dome of the Rock Masjid image in 3D

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    Dome of the rock 3D photos, very nice pic. enjoy http//www.360tr.net/kudus/mescidiaksa_arap/index.html peace It is very beautiful
  • Quraish in the Torah

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    Is it not possible that we just have a case of two tribes with similar names here?
  • What are the Furtherst Mosque and the Sacred Mosque (17:1)

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    peace truthseeker11, raginggaijin, all I was only asking about ragingaijin's opinion, thats all. I personally think the qiblah is towards mecca, but i'm not here to discuss that. Salaam, akhi, Masjid Al-Haram surrounds Bayt Al-Haram. The Sacred Mosque surrounds the Kabah. We pray inside Masjid Al-Haram. We make circuits around the Kabah/Bayt Al-Haram. Hope this helps. May Allah continue to guide us to the Truth. Jazakallah Khair.
  • Picture of the inside of the Ka'ba

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    Go to the bottom of the page http//7c7.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1146735 Shit dont work
  • Anyone plan on making Hajj soon?

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    The proper word is circumvent. Is there an article around here that describes how the hajj was performed historically (before the time of the prophet)? What about umrah?
  • Qiblah and Qabbalah

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    Yeah, I forgot about 1087. That's a thinker. Provide dwellings for your people in Egypt, make your dwellings into... ...places of reception? ...places of tradition? ...places of communion?
  • Are they all really equal?

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    This isn't actually a question but just want your opinions on this as I have never heard anyone mention this before. Whatever your opinions about pilgrimage, I am aware of other threads but just want to focus on the pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia. When Muslims visit the ka'ba they all dress in white to show that they are all equal. No fancy rolexes on their arms or any bling. But then some go back to their tents while the rest go back to their 5 star hotels and their gourmet meals. Is it just me or is there something seriously wrong here?!! Heres an example of the swanky hotels http//www.hajis.co.uk/our-hotels.asp Do they really need those high thread count egyptian cotton sheets? or that incredibly expensive meal? Would it hurt if they feed the poor or pay for a poor person's hajj instead? Views? Peace, Respectfully. They are deaf, dumb and blind, they don't know what they are doing. I believe that The Exalted God The Most Powerful has sealed their hearts, so they can't read nor follow The Quran. They can read The Quran but they don't get it. I'm a witness to this, since i visit the London central Mosque and see that .... they are simply deaf, dumb and blind. Peace.
  • Pilgrimage Poll

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    Do you read Arabic? no, i don't
  • Ralph Ellis books - Great Pyramid

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    He is the Lord of Sirius 5349 Please explain http//www.greatdreams.com/pyramid_orion.jpg
  • Is the Black stone god Shiva?

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    Peace, Allen, I approach these concepts a bit different. There is still much to be investigated, but i don't agree with the conevtional concepts of Hajj. Like where does it say anti-clockwise? Or even walk around it in circles? These are non-Quranic rituals. If i say, let's walk around the city, does this mean i'm circumbulating the city? No, this refers to move in the concepts around it. Also the House Abraham build refers to the System, the Deen he build. Kaaba means base/foundation if i'm not mistaken, and so translated the verse that says kaaba, would say 597 God has made the foundation, the Sacred House(The Deen), a means of support for mankind, as also the holy month, the sacrificial offerings, and consecrated cattle, so that you may understand that known to God is all that is in the heavens and the earth, and God has knowledge of everything. Also, where is kaaba/foundation connected with bowing? Masjid means place of prostration, which can be anywhere where people bow to God's laws, this includes your mind being masjid al-haram. Qibla means focus, so these verses refer to focus on implying God's laws in the land and your mind by my view. 2115 says God is everywhere, no particulair place is needed to direct ourselves too i believe. I do agree on facing the same direction, but this is already included with 4102, where it is ordered to stand with them. Hajj is one of the most twisted conceptions in Islam. It refers to a debate between ALL the people of the world. Hajj literaly means debate and ?determination for a noble cause?. Dr.Shabbir on Hajj 2196 (Peace cannot defend itself. Mankind has to guard it.) Therefore, observe the Hajj or Umrah Convention for Allah. If you are stranded, send in gifts that the congregation would utilize. Do not consider that by doing so you have relieved yourself of duty. Be with them at heart until the gifts have reached their destination. If someone is sick or has other compelling burdens denying him sending any contribution, then Abstinence for a few days at convenience, or an act of charity or fulfilling someone?s need shall be in order. If a person is present at the Convention but cannot afford to contribute, he should exercise Abstinence for a total number of ten days, three days there and seven days after coming home. This is for him whose folk do not live in the vicinity of the Convention. Be mindful of Allah, remembering the noble objective. And know that Allah's Law of Requital is strict in pursuing and grasping. 2197 The Convention shall take place in the months appointed for it and made well known to all. Whoever participates in the Convention shall refrain from sexual intimacy, slipping out of discipline and argumentation throughout Hajj. And whatever you accomplish for the good of mankind, Allah will acknowledge it. So make ample provision, yet the best provision is your good conduct. Be mindful of Me, O You of understanding! There is still much to be researched. But i thought i would share it with you.... Peace bro... So how do you understand this Surah? Surah 106. Winter, Quraysh For the covenants (of security and safeguard enjoyed) by the Quraish, Their covenants (covering) journeys by winter and summer,- Let them adore the Lord of this House, Who provides them with food against hunger, and with security against fear (of danger). So who exactly are Quraish and what is the House ?
  • Allah the moongod?

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    Peace all, http//www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm After reading all of this, I can understand why christians not see traditional muslims sharing same God as they. Maria The christians who write these things and make these claims are very racist. Most people in western countries are deeply ashamed of the racist christian fundamentalists. It is what turns people like Richard Dawkins to dogmatic atheism - he is so angry at the sectarian Christianity he grew up with that he hates the old testament, and regards all other religion with contempt.
  • "Hajj" poll

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    The four forbidden months are the months of Ramadan and the three following it. The Quran came down in ten nights of One of the Months of Ramadan. It has to have been AFTER the return to Mecca of Mohammad and his followers, and after the victory of the Romans AFTER their defeat earlier during Mohammd's Prophethood. History has only one such documented case from 600 - 635 AD ....... around 617AD the Romans were defeated and around 627-629 AD they were victorious. So the Quran must have been sent down after that victory and before Mohammad's death. In that year the Spirit and the Angels came down to deliver the Quran to Mohammad and his followers ... much like the Torah was delivered to Moses .... but in Moses's case it was the meeting with God Himself that Moses attended alone ..... and the "Tablets" were delivered to him during the 40 night meeting with God and His forces with Moses. The four forbidden months must follow the Lunar calender and thus will move through the seasons of the year over 2 1/2 decades .... and as believers we are all forbidden from "Hunting" land animals during those four months, and also from fighting and wronging ourselves unless we are fought against. This gives ALL land animals the time to replenish their populations, while we hunt other types of animals. The system is perfect if we follow what God tells us ... when we start inventing our own reasons ... that's when we reach where we have reached as Mankind.
  • Pradakshina: Circumambulation Around Sacred Object

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    Peace, Thanks for posting this Maria
  • circulate or visit?

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    Have post new thread on this http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597145.0
  • The Donation

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    Thanks Anwar for the explanation.
  • Pilgrimage - Jerusalem

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    Take heed; beware of living your life on religious "food." By now you have certainly forgotten the five loaves that fed the five thousand, with twelve baskets left over, and the seven loaves that fed the four thousand and the plenty that remained. But I am not speaking to you about earthly food. No, I have come to warn you against feeding on the ideas and false teachings of those who market in religion. In vain such people worship me, teaching as doctrines what are merely the inventions of men. Preoccupied with their own superstitions, they have forgotten the commandments of God. Beware of false teachers who stand before you wearing sheep's clothing. Beneath their guise hides a ravenous wolf. They follow their true master, the evil one, and do what as he commands them. He was a murderer from the beginning, and never told the truth, because there was never truth in him. When he lies, he speaks in character, for he is a liar, and the father of lies. To those who set themselves up to be your judges I say, judgment upon you, false teachers. Hypocrites! You, who will never enter the kingdom of heaven, bar the very way to those who long to go in. You travel across land and sea to gain one proselyte; and when that person is won, you make them two times more the child of hell than you are yourselves. Do you not merit great damnation? You steal from the poor and the widows; and then, to conceal your true intentions, you make long pious prayers. You decree "The temple is unimportant. What is important is the treasury of the temple!" But which is greater the gold in the treasury, or the temple that sanctifies the gold? And you say "The altar is not important; but the gift that is upon it is important." You are both foolish and blind. Which is greater the gift on the altar, or the altar that sanctifies the gift? Whoever honours the altar honours it and all things upon it. And whoever honours the temple honours him who dwells within its walls. And they who honour heaven, honour the throne of God, and he who sits upon it. You make ceremonial offerings of even the herbs that grow at your front door. All the while, you have forgotten the weighty matters of the law judgment, mercy, and faith. Your vision extends not one inch in front of your face. Piously you strain a gnat from your wine, and proceed to swallow a camel. Self-righteously you clean the outside of your cup, while inside remains the grime of extortion. How blind can you be! First take care of what is concealed within. Only then will the outside be clean. False teachers! In your hypocrisy you are no better than whitewashed tombs, which might appear beautiful on the outside, but inside are full of death and decaying bones. You may impress people by your superficial demonstrations of virtue, but inside you are consumed with hypocrisy and have fallen short of the truth. How can you believe, who live only for your colleague's praise, never seeking the honor that comes from God alone? You build monuments to the prophets, and place flowers at the tombs of the righteous, and say "If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would never have allowed their innocent blood to be shed." Be witness to your own inconsistency! You are the descendents of those who killed the prophets, and have surpassed even their wicked acts. Snakes! Generation of vipers! How will you escape the condemnation of eternal judgment? Behold, in the days to come, I will send you prophets, and wise men, and teachers. Even these you will kill and crucify. Yes, even these you will persecute, and pursue to the ends of the earth. Such hypocrisy! Isaiah was right when he prophesied of you "They approach me with their mouths, and honour me with their lips; but their hearts are far from me." You justify yourselves before your congregations; but God knows the evil intentions of your hearts for that which is highly esteemed by man is repulsive in the sight of God. Take heed Many will come from the east and west, and enter joyfully the kingdom of heaven. But many who should have come in will be banished instead to the darkness outside. Be forewarned Unless your righteousness exceeds the pseudo-righteousness of the religious, you will not set foot inside the kingdom of heaven. And Once a man appeared at his friend?s door after midnight. "Lend me three loaves of bread,? he called. ?I have visitors who have travelled far to see me, and my cupboards are bare." But his friend replied "Please don't disturb me now. The door is locked, and my children are asleep. I can't get up and help you." Here is a lesson. Though the man did not get up and provide the bread because of their friendship, he did eventually give in to his friend?s earnest pleading, and rose from his sleep to give him what he asked. Be so persistent in your requests to God. Ask, and it will be given to you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, those who seek find, and to those who knock, the door will be opened wide. In a certain town, there lived a hard-hearted judge, who neither feared God nor cared for his neighbour. In the same town there lived a widow, who pursued him for justice concerning a person who had harmed her. Time passed, and the judge persisted in ignoring her pleas, refusing to hear her case, until finally, one day, he said to himself "Though I do not fear God, nor concern myself with charity, I will see to it that this widow gets justice; for she wears me out with her constant appeals." Will not God, then, offer justice to his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he too ignore your earnest cry for help? I tell you this he will see that they who seek him receive justice, and quickly! And yet, the real question raised in this story is this When the Messiah returns, will he find many on the earth with such persevering faith? I do not mean that you should let your prayer fall into a pattern of mindless repetition. The unenlightened pray in this manner, imagining that they will be heard because of the great number of their prayers. Do not imitate them. Remember your heavenly Father knows what you need even before you ask. The prophet Isaiah has written "My house shall be called by all nations, a house of prayer." Pray then, to the Father who hears your most intimate prayers and rewards them openly; and whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will provide. If you live your life in me, and let my words live in you, you may ask what you wish and it will be given to you. Pray in this manner ?Our Father in heaven, may all the earth recognize that you are the one and holy God. May your kingdom dwell among us. May your purpose be accomplished on earth, as it is in heaven. Provide us with daily bread to sustain us, and forgive our falling short. Help us to forgive those who have wronged us. Keep us from wandering into faithlessness, and deliver us from the evil one. For to you belongs all power and glory, eternally. Let it be so." http//www.thewords.com/english/thepower.htm
  • Why dont muslims observe the Hajj?

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    And complete the conference/symposium and the visit for God but if you are prevented then what is easy from the offering/guidance and do not cancel/relieve/high/sharp/active your head/principal until the offering/guidance reaches its permitted/lawful place and whoever is among you sick or with ailment of their head then redeem/exchange/ransom from abstinence or charity or observance but if secure/able then whoever enjoys in the visit to the conference/symposium then what is easy of the offering/guidance and whoever couldn't find then abstain three days during the conference/symposium and seven when you return that is ten complete, that for those whose people are not present/near the institute of acknowledging the restriction, and be conscious of The God and know that The God is severe in punishment. ( I wouldnt use the word "principal" instead of "head"... ) "head" is mentioned in both places..."head/principal" is not...
  • Abraham, the Arabs the House and Hajj

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    Do you notice that 'those who fear thier lord bilghaib and establish as-salaat' does NOT go on to say 'and render az-zakaat' . Rather it says 'wa man yatazakka'. Why doesnt it say 'and render az-zakaat'. My opinion is, because khusyu to Allah bilghaib and iqamis salaat IS the rendering of az-zakaat. Your thoughts? I just re-read this point today. Impressive.
  • Hajj means Annual Global Debate--Explanation using Tasreef/Crossreference

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    Peace, I agree, no need for a state. I am against Quranic statehood, mainly because the Quran says that the last prophet (God bless him) was no one's controller, musaitirun (lasta 3alayhim bimusaitirin). A state is a system of control, saitarah, and that is not what our last prophet and his message recommend. I have said over and over again that what the Amish/Menonites have is very close to what the Quran is calling us to self-sufficient communities and a Quranic order and a Quranic codex of policies and rules that we CHOOSE to live by. We don't need a state. What we need is a strong organizaton committed to both realistic and Quranic goals of self-sufficiency, sustainability, quality of life, promotion our Quranic, Abrahamic beliefs and way of life and realistic, non-bombastic, and not too worldy goals of success in this life and the next. Please, please, please do research on the Amish way of life (not necessarily their ideologies) and imagine a Quranic way of life like that. These people have real skills, they can build, restore, farm, sow and set up small businesses to bring in outside money. They are a church community that can fully take care of themselves, only depend on themselves and as it turns out one of the wealthies and fastest growing communities in the U.S. You would think they were poor riding around in there buggies but that have more material and immaterial wealth than all other communities in the U.S. I have alot of ideas of how to create a quality life as well in such a community. With the following we could live quality lives as a Quranic church oriented, self-sufficient community. Consider the following Gober gas aparati (Bio-methane) (Check out on youtube) Super Adobe, earth architecture (Cal-Earth, check out youtube) Efficient Microbes (check out on you tube) micro-gasifiers (check out on youtube) Other helpful equipment are plows, presses and mills, spindles. fresian wells, water pumps, cysterns and filters (to refilter and reuse grey water as well as to filter rain water.) But with real skills we could only depend on ourselves, have 99 percent closed-cycle sustainability and bring in extra money to contribute to Quranic endeavors. Honestly with these tools and proper land plannng, a Quranic community could live freely and indepedentantly with housing for everyone with a main sanctuary and prosper. Subtropics and tropics are preferable for this plan. As sugar cane bagasse (which grows up into zone 8, in the U.S. that is as high as coast North Carolina) figures in as a source of fuel. I would also consider using bamboo and pine straw (roof can be topped with ceramic, zinc or other materials because it's a hidden roof anyway, hence raised walls) for roofing with raised walls and a simple water catchment system. Godbless, Anwar