Marriage & Divorce

No one becomes an ape when they already are (in) one. The question is if you keep it under control or not.

never will be.. 2883 Such will be the abode of the Hereafter; We reserve it for those who do not seek prestige on the earth, nor corruption; and the ending will be for the righteous. 3196-197 Do not be deceived by the success of those who have rejected in the land. A brief enjoyment, then their abode is Hell. What a miserable abode! but for the individual believers and small communities. Peace

How do you know it is definite and not indefinite? True, we can not know. So, 2 communities of many others... it helps my hypothesis even more ) What I mean is that the purpose does not seem to be that we learn history but that we learn moral principles. Hitory may fit that purpose, but the purpoe may be fulfilled with enough dcriptio of the moral deeds involved and therefore no need to write history for history fans. However that dos not mean that if indeed a historical fact is stated that it is wrong. If the Qur'an says something then it is correct. What I was meaning is that the Qur'an should not be called to account if it does not give all the historical data that we would like. It is not its purpose. Of course history is not the purpose, the Qur'an itself states that you don't need anything else to understand its meaning. But I find here a way of explaining many things, allegorically of course, and those have to do with prehistory. No one is going to write history over this, either no one is trying to find historical data (I hope so!!), but it is a fact for me that God is telling us the history of our ancestors to teach us something. So looking at paleontologist research just help us understand better. No, I didn't mean at all that yousaid that, but there is plenty of that around and I just wanted to dispell any hint that it would be understood otherwise. I regret if I have generated confusion. No regrets!!! group Have a great Friday and weekend you too. Salaam pr

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& I left you speechless, right? Salaam

peace, what does God say in the quran about the interim period, for example lets say someone divorced another person then according to Quran these persons must wait 3 months? this is the interim period. Does this mean they are still married during the interim period? can they have intercourse during this interim period?? thanks beforehand. Once a divorce is established it means the marriage is broken; the woman has to observe waiting period before remarrying; they shouldn?t have intercourse because there is no law backing it. The divorcee should count for 3 periods Waalmutallaqatu yatarabbasna bianfusihinna thalathata qurooin 2228 or 3 month Waallaee yaisna mina almaheedi min nisaikum ini irtabtum faAAiddatuhunna thalathatu ashhurin waallaee lam yahidna 654 if she is pregnant then till delivery waolatu alahmali ajaluhunna an yadaAAna hamlahunna 654 The count must to be observed Ya ayyuha alnnabiyyu itha tallaqtumu alnnisaa fatalliqoohunna liAAiddatihinna waahsoo alAAiddata 651 They should remarry only after the count has been observed Faitha balaghna ajalahunna faamsikoohunna bimaAAroofin aw fariqoohunna bimaAAroofin waashhidoo thaway AAadlin minkum waaqeemoo alshshahadata lillahi thalikum yooAAathu bihi 652 Remarrying is permitted only after two separate divorces. Alttalaqu marratani 2229 After the third divorce the woman has to marry a different man. Fain tallaqaha fala tahillu lahu min baAAdu (after the two divorces) hatta tankiha zawjan ghayrahu 2230 The woman may remarry her X husband if the Y husband divorces her on condition that they should not go for divorce again. But if they went for the fourth divorce, then there is no provision provided for them to remarry. fain tallaqaha fala junaha AAalayhima an yatarajaAAa in thanna an yuqeema hudooda Allahi 2230 watilka hudoodu Allahi yubayyinuha liqawmin yaAAlamoona 2230 That is GOD's solid law.

(the message) 6010 O you who believe, if the believing females come emigrating to you, then you shall test them. God is fully aware of their belief. Thus, if you establish that they are believers, then you shall not return them to the rejecters. They are no longer lawful for one another. And return the dowries that were paid. And there is no sin upon you to marry them, if you have paid their dowries to them. And do not keep disbelieving wives, and ask back what dowries you paid. And let them ask back what dowries they had paid. Such is the judgment of God; He judges between you. God is Knowledgeable, Wise. If you read the verses before it it will be clear to you that these women were expelled by their disbelieving husbands/family because they became believers. Also look at this line from aboveThus, if you establish that they are believers, then you shall not return them to the rejecters. Allah is being fair here. The women were rejected. They have all the right to remarry. Hence, divorce is the way to go. In other words, the verses are not saying that if a spouse changes her/his religion or become atheist they deserve divorce. Love is the symbol of Allah. One who doesn't honor it is bound for hell on this planet.

I think hicham9 should go for it if there is still a chance for the relationship, however slim the chance may be. I know it might still hurt at this point, but come on, look at the circumstance we find ourselves. Only 1% of Muslims believe and remain faithful to the Qur'an, you can imagine how small my chance of finding a such a Qur'an only Muslim in the Muslim community is. And since Muslims make up about 25% of the world, this implies that the probability of me finding a potential spouse is less than 0.0025! So, hicham9 has to weigh his chances and decide what is attainable. "Only 1% of Muslims believe and remain faithful to the Qur'an." Are these statistics smelly because of where they have come from?

Peace Samira1234 and thank you. Alright, but can i marry her after three menstruation cycles ? For example after they have divorced and after three menstruation cycles, can I marry her then? If God wills. Oh and for your question, the second thingy, do they have to agree again after the menstruation cycle that they want to divorce or can I marry her directly after the three menstruation cycles are done. If God wills. Thanks

The Christ's/Messiah's teachings are a bit on collision course with mainstream "Islam" interpretation since there is no strong recommendation on marriage but rather the opposite. Get rid of all fleshly and attain the spirit is his message. But since two souls, male and female, become one upon bonding it is probably wise that they can stand each other, to be able to remain together without divorce. It is only mental pain to live with someone you cannot get along with, and choosing the "right person" is important because they will one way or another affect your assimilation with the realm of "God" unless you can remain independent but then it is a very shallow bonding. You need to have some mutual love or else it is meaningless. A female and male body complement each other perfectly so the other is the perfect companion so that they reduce their fleshly nature, but if it is an oppressive marriage where one of the gender attributes are suppressed, then the bonding is meaningless. You bond due to the advantage of meeting a female and male characterized being. The man has something to learn from the woman while the woman has something to learn from the man. Everything is created for a logical reason being different or we could be created two equal minded partners. If we suppress our gender identity to get the other one then we have failed to get the point. The point is getting a balanced soul, and to be able to "control the flesh", so that the flesh itself is suppressed with the desires so that we can be spiritual and hence separate the spirit from the flesh. So you actually bond to control the beast in you. Be faithful ones

Thanks, Java. I guess you are from Java? Yes, I was born in Java, and I'm a Javanese. ;D I have always wanted tovisit Indonesia, and of course, Java. Please visit Indonesia, sister. It'll be so nice, inshaAllah. D But I guess that is a dream that will have to wait for next life. Really? But anything can happen if God decide it to happen. I'm not surprise if you can visit Indonesia someday. If that happen, I hope you'll have wonderful experiences in our archipelago country. Java paradise or something like that. Hehe.. ;D I think we can forget about Java if we can enter Paradise. I suppose there must be many of much more awesome incredible places to be enjoyed at there. I hope Allah will grant us Paradise in the hereafter, sister. I'd like to visit you at there and have tea time together, inshaAllah. ) Peace.

what is the meaning of masna wa sulasa wa ruba in 43? please explain.

Because that is not what the Qur'an says. That aya is not about poligamy nor authorises it. The Qur'an commands to marry the single. So the only possibility for anybody, man or woman to be poligamous were that there were excess of singles. So that a part of the population would be obliged to remain single all their life because there would not be enough of the other sex to go around. Salaam

I have written an article on verse 434 of the Qur'an, a verse which has commonly been misinterpreted to justify violence against women. I have created a website to publish this article www.quranverse434.com

Are there any verses which say one has to have reached puberty, or be physically developed before marrying in the Qur'an? Salaam, Please check 2235. May Allah bless you pr mmKhan

Peace Sushi. I am sure MoF will put that episode behind him and move on. GOD bless you both. Peace.

This is one of the best versions sung by my favorite Yossi Azulay!!! It is a song "boi bshalom" = "come in peace"... And the God is always the very first mentioned! I've seen many weddings but this one is simply BEAUTIFUL in its poised elegance and religiosity with this marvelous voice flying over the invited guests... Enjoy! http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJWBHSrOjY group Glory to God the Blessed One

This is one of the best versions sung by my favorite Yossi Azulay!!! It is a song "boi bshalom" = "come in peace"... And the God is always the very first mentioned! I've seen many weddings but this one is simply BEAUTIFUL in its poised elegance and religiosity with this marvelous voice flying over the invited guests... Enjoy! http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJWBHSrOjY group Glory to God the Blessed One

Peace all. Both men and women should be smart. i.e fear God, be God conscious! Then you will respect each other and treat everyone as equal regardless of gender, colour or race. Peace to all.

In 24.32 it is to marry, the fact that it is not addressed only to males does not change its meaning. I think it is th eonly time "marry is applied to women and not to males, but in fact that is what it does, so, though the usage may be, for social standing of whatever, that somebody gives out the bride, ti seems that the Qur'an does not consider that as something fundamental or universal, because it dommands women also to marry the men. Salaam